Sequels "Gambit" starring Channing Tatum? - Part 2

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Can we stop acting like this wasn't expected. If we get no word of filming next month, then we can start worrying. The delay was inevitable. Honestly, those two dates they have reserved may be just to see what other of their projects can be ready.

Ironically, black (not leather) makes the most sense for Gambit to wear while on a job...

EDIT: Should we also be criticizing Thor, Captain America, Ant-man, even Guardians of the Galaxy for their similar budgets? While Gambit can work on a smaller budget, there is nothing wrong with them putting the money into this.

Any character can work as a stand alone, with the right treatment.

Of course a delay was expected but I expected a hard new release date instead of a "we don't know when" non release date.

I disagree with you. Gambit should wear a good adaption of his costume. Gambit's costume is not unadaptable, some characters are but not Gambit's. I cannot abide the 1990's/2000 mindset regarding comic book movie costumes.

It's difficult to criticize Marvel for their budgets when the vast majority of their films are hits and they have a Pixar level of trust from the audience. Sure I have creative criticisms for them but business wise they are by far number one in the comic book movie game.

I don't think the Gambit project is dead nor am I overreacting to this news. Of course they could make a good and successful Gambit movie, anything is possible, but putting a 150+mil budget pressure on a non-solo character who isn't nearly as popular today seems like a strange risk to take. Make the film but drop that budget.

 

[2kt09]

^ That's the thing, though. Will it get that in the way Deadpool did?

I truly hope so. Doug Liman = I'm shocked he wasn't one of the directors Disney claimed for Star Wars and a director I am to the "moon and back" on finally doing a cbm. Gambit plays to his as well as Channing Tatum's strengths. Tatum was apparently even considered back in the mid 2000s.

And, in all honesty, the budget for Ant-Man was probably too high.

Agreed, though I figured that's mostly to cover the costs of the actors involved, the CG and cinematography.
If Gambit has this high of a budget, I'm expecting pretty spectacular set pieces and action sequences moreso than A/B-list talent, but since he isn't as marketable as Deadpool, they'd need as much as necessary.

I'd have no problem seeing Channing Tatum in tight black leather... that would be fine for scenes involving riding motorbikes, etc, but the character also needs to have a comic-accurate look/costume.

He meant it's not very stealthy for a trenchcoat and a pink top. Casually, I'd be fine with it.

 

[BlackFox]

Looking forward to this but the delay was inevitable. Tatum seems to have a passion for the character and Liman is a good director so hopefully they can come up with something special.

I think its a harder character to pull off than Deadpool however so they have a lot of work to do to make it work, but I hope they can.

 

[Dasher10]

Of course a delay was expected but I expected a hard new release date instead of a "we don't know when" non release date.

I disagree with you. Gambit should wear a good adaption of his costume. Gambit's costume is not unadaptable, some characters are but not Gambit's. I cannot abide the 1990's/2000 mindset regarding comic book movie costumes.

It's difficult to criticize Marvel for their budgets when the vast majority of their films are hits and they have a Pixar level of trust from the audience. Sure I have creative criticisms for them but business wise they are by far number one in the comic book movie game.

I don't think the Gambit project is dead nor am I overreacting to this news. Of course they could make a good and successful Gambit movie, anything is possible, but putting a 150+mil budget pressure on a non-solo character who isn't nearly as popular today seems like a strange risk to take. Make the film but drop that budget.

It's clearly taking the October 2017 release date. It's just been delayed for a year because of the five month delay in shooting after the initial director quit. Honestly, I don't blame Fox for this since the film needed a delay or else the production schedule would be rushed.

 

[Sithborg]

It's difficult to criticize Marvel for their budgets when the vast majority of their films are hits and they have a Pixar level of trust from the audience. Sure I have creative criticisms for them but business wise they are by far number one in the comic book movie game.

I think it is important to point out that Thor and Captain America had those budgets before Marvel was the brand it is now. And Gambit is just as much of a risk. It is just the inherent risk studios take when going after blockbuster money.

 

[Flint Marko]

A proper Thor/peroid piece Captain America movie is inherently going to be expensive. A Gambit movie? Not so much.

 

[X-Maniac]

He meant it's not very stealthy for a trenchcoat and a pink top. Casually, I'd be fine with it.

Well the top doesn't have to be hot pink, lol. Some artwork makes it more purple, and that would be okay too. It could be shown as some sort of bulletproof dark purple body armour rather than a bright pink top that has his abs showing through.

I think it could be done, and the trenchcoat could definitely appear too in some form.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think it is important to point out that Thor and Captain America had those budgets before Marvel was the brand it is now. And Gambit is just as much of a risk. It is just the inherent risk studios take when going after blockbuster money.

I agree that no film is guaranteed a certain amount of money and no Captain America and Thor were not guaranteed successes. But like Flint just said, it would be very difficult to do a lower budget Thor and Captain America movies, Gambit can and should be done for less than 150 million. Now that they have time they should get to lowering that budget to 90-100 million.

Also Thor and Cap aren't characters known for being on a team, those are solo characters. There is a good question as to whether Gambit can even carry his own film. Will 150 million dollars worth of people care enough about Gambit outside of X-Men? I mean Wolverine is an uber popular character and his solo films aren't doing X3, X-Men: Days of Future Past or Deadpool numbers.

 

[jaymes_e06]

A lower budget Captain America would absolutely have worked Thor not so much but Caps powers are the v easiest to translate of all the Avengers.

 

[Flint Marko]

A period piece war movie with the proper action and effects is going to have a respectable price tag.
Frankly it doesn't really matter to me at all at the end of the day, they can give it whatever budget they'd like. I just question why a movie about a thief from New Orlean's has that budget, seems like it's bleeding money unnecessarily.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

A period piece full of visual effects would be easier to make on a budget? Not if they wanted the film to look good.

EDIT: Flint beat me to the punch.

I agree that it's not going hurt me if Gambit costs 150+million but yeah I question it considering the character's powers and what the film is vaguely about.

 

[marcvader]

Unless your going to cover something extraordinary with Gambit there really is no need for his budget to be as high as Thor and TFA.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'd also like to comment on the matter of Ant-Man's 130 million budget. Ant-Man had shrinking effects, that **** is expensive.

 

[Frankeh]

I haven't seen Deadpool, but I've read that it did wonders with it's budget, so I'd say they should give Gambit a similar amount.

 

[jaymes_e06]

A period piece full of visual effects would be easier to make on a budget? Not if they wanted the film to look good.

EDIT: Flint beat me to the punch.

I agree that it's not going hurt me if Gambit costs 150+million but yeah I question it considering the character's powers and what the film is vaguely about.

First off no as it did not need to be a period peice to be effective and also i agree with Flint so i don't see the point in arguing this. Captain America if they did it right could have been made relatively cheap imo not quite Deadpool cheap but still.

But yeah moving on to Gambit I still am confused as to what in the script could call for such a large budget.

 

[jaymes_e06]

I haven't seen Deadpool, but I've read that it did wonders with it's budget, so I'd say they should give Gambit a similar amount.

It really did which is why i think Cap could have worked with less money invested. But yeah I totally agree with you they really should consider the lower budget idea they got from DP.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Do we know what's on the script? Just because some of you guys can't imagine a Gambit movie costing $150 million that it means it cannot or should not happen. We don't know the scope of the story. How much of a solo movie is this?

They obviously want a big franchise if possible so they are willing to spend $150 million. For fans of the character surely that would be a good thing.

Not that I really care right now. I will see the film if it looks appealing, and if Liman is at the helm, I do expect it to look appealing.

 

[jaymes_e06]

The only way I can see the budget being that large is if Rogue is kicking ass in the film at some point.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I am expecting that kind of thing as justification for the budget, yeah.

 

[Flint Marko]

Yeah the budget thing alone isn't all that damning, the film could totally need that money and end up being very profitable, but at the moment it's definitely an eyebrow-raiser.

 

[-JKR-]

Am I the only one thinking that the October 2017 slot for a Fox/Marvel project simply is the new release date for Gambit?

No way are they going to rush a Deadpool sequel for next year (I can see it getting the January 2018 spot) and Gambit seems like the only one that far into development (they have a star, they have a director, they have a script, they're looking for a spring start date for filming).

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I don't see Rogue ever being a kick-butt character. It seems like we are stuck with this much, much, much weaker Rogue for the forseeable future. But I suppose I could see other characters with big power displays in the film.

 

[Sithborg]

I mean, Gambit blows stuff up. I can easily see where the budget can go.

 

[Majik1387]

As well as other side characters to be included.

 

[Mike Murdock]

Channing Tatum is a poor casting choice, the budget is far too high, the original director has jumped ship, and they've pushed the release date to who knows when. Yeah I think "dismissing" Gambit is somewhat understandable at this point.

While I wasn't initially that much of a fan, it's hard to argue with his Cajun Night Before Christmas (about 30 seconds in).