Game of Thrones - Book Readers' Thread - Part 18

[Roose Bolton]

I don't know if that is a good thing or a bad thing.

Have you heard of James Luceno? He's the guy who should have written the prequels.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Have you heard of James Luceno? He's the guy who should have written the prequels.

I have read the NJO. Some of my favorite Star Wars. I just didn't know how you felt about it.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I get up and around the Vong lol

 

[godisawesome]

Anybody else hoping Bran gets an implied presence throughout the season via even more peculiar Raven behavior? I also figure that Bran is the best tool the show can use for flashbacks in later seasons.

And as to Stannis...I hope they expand his interactions and plotline a lot this season. They're finally putting him in the same room as a Stark for significant time again; it would be great to give the Unsullied another example of Stark and Baratheon chemistry. And considering the pace they usually give Jon and Stannis, I expect plenty of character scenes between the two, and it would be wonderful to see Davos and Jon double team against Melisandre for an episode.

I loved how the books suggested that somehow, someway, Jon Snow manages to tickle Stannis's funny one more than any other character. It would be hilarious if they managed to pull that off.

 

[Victarion]

Have you heard of James Luceno? He's the guy who should have written the prequels.

I'm a fan of Matthew Stover's Revenge of the Sith. He nailed Anakin's turn to the dark side.

 

[Roose Bolton]

So there's a supposed leaked description of Jon's "scene" out there. Seems very weird, and interesting. The trailer kind of confirms some of it, though grain of salt and all that.

I'm a fan of Matthew Stover's Revenge of the Sith. He nailed Anakin's turn to the dark side.

Yeah, I loved the novelisation of RotS. It retroactively made me more dissapointed with the film

His novel Iron Dawn is quite good as well.

 

[Victarion]

Where's the description?

Stover did a pretty good Magic tie-in as well, Test of Metal. It's the only one I kept when I last purged my shelves.

 

[Roose Bolton]

It's up at Reddit, and basically says

Spoiler

Jon leads the Night's Watch against Rattleshirt at Hardhome, until the White Walkers crash the battle, coming from the water and all around. Jon tries to urge his men on to fight, they stab him and it ends with the Night's King taking his body.

Whether its valid or not remains to be seen.

 

[Victarion]

Oh, I'd seen that one a couple of days ago. Thanks, Roose.

It was followed by the cold opener for next season.

Spoiler

Jon and Benjen in Ice Morder with WW wenches

 

[Marvolo]

It's up at Reddit, and basically says

Spoiler

Jon leads the Night's Watch against Rattleshirt at Hardhome, until the White Walkers crash the battle, coming from the water and all around. Jon tries to urge his men on to fight, they stab him and it ends with the Night's King taking his body.

Whether its valid or not remains to be seen.

Spoiler

He is captured by the Night's King!?!?!? Goghbshvgf!!! If thats the last time we see him in season five the wait for season 6 is going to be excruciating for book readers and non book readers. That is an entirely new and different path from what happens in the books.

 

[Roose Bolton]

It certainly opens up a boatload of questions. Those two characters have a blood connection after all...

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's up at Reddit, and basically says

Spoiler

Jon leads the Night's Watch against Rattleshirt at Hardhome, until the White Walkers crash the battle, coming from the water and all around. Jon tries to urge his men on to fight, they stab him and it ends with the Night's King taking his body.

Whether its valid or not remains to be seen.

I saw this theory or something very similar over at Westeros, and the person was pitching it, not saying it was true. I wonder if the Reddit post picked that up.

 

[Victarion]

Maybe. There was some excitement because someone went and added Catelyn's actress to the IMDB page. Lol.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Maybe. There was some excitement because someone went and added Catelyn's actress to the IMDB page. Lol.

Though I am still praying it happens, IMDB isn't exactly the place one goes for reliable info.

 

[Reek]

It certainly opens up a boatload of questions. Those two characters have a blood connection after all...

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[Roose Bolton]

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[Marvolo]

I saw this theory or something very similar over at Westeros, and the person was pitching it, not saying it was true. I wonder if the Reddit post picked that up.

It's possible.

 

[ЯɘvlveR]

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Your monster, Jon Starkgaryen...

 

[godisawesome]

I don't quite see the Hardhome scene being the et tu, my brothers? scene. To me, D&D would be better served by having Jon lose some Night Watch allies in leading the rescue from White Walkers (who I think are confirmed for that scene with the NK, correct?), arriving back at the Wall with even more Wildlings, and then having him stabbed by Marsh et al as a result of both his command decisions/mistakes and the possibility that the stay-at-home Watchmen see that he's just a little too friendly and respected by the free folk.

Heck, maybe they merge Allister Thorne's ranging with the Hardhome expedition too, and Thorne's death as a rival but very reluctant subordinate to Jon acts as a catalyst for others to see more treachery in Jon. I'm just thinking that the show might have an easier time building the inevitable treachery if they give Jon more visible means of rubbing his opponents the wrong way. If Jon becomes responsible for the deaths of both Thorne and Slynt, it works even better.

I still figure some kind of Pink Letter scene will happen, but probably in a heavily modified form. If they build up the idea that Jon does have some Wildling cred, even as a Crow spy, maybe he just tries to order some Wildlings to go help Stannis and that's the death sentence he brings on himself.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Hardhome is happening in episode 8 I believe. They will want the Jon situation to be a season cliffhanger imo, so yeah I could see his brothers holding the situation against Jon and him being attacked in the season finale.

 

[Roose Bolton]

Hopefully Slynt dies early

 

[Infinity9999x]

Just read an article that the next book will officially not be coming out in 2015, so there's no avoiding the series outstripping the novels now.

 

[Roose Bolton]

That's been confirmed for a while now. Actually if you look back long enough, GRRM's editor said last year that they didn't expect it in 2015.

 

[Infinity9999x]

That's been confirmed for a while now. Actually if you look back long enough, GRRM's editor said last year that they didn't expect it in 2015.

What annoys me the most is that he keeps coming out with all these companion novels. And they're cool, don't get me wrong, but write them AFTER you've finished your damn series! Tolkien didn't stop in the life of writing LOTR and go, "I think I'll write the Silmarillion now." As fun as the extra stories are, I don't care about them. They're an added bonus. And the fact that the man has taken 20 years to only write 5 books is getting ridiculous. He's in danger of pulling a Robert Jordan .

 

[Victarion]

George has a Silmarillion esque title announced, Fire and Blood.