Game of Thrones - Book Readers' Thread - - - - - - Part 23

[Reek]

Anyways... How will Jon come back? Obviously not what happened last ep... But what is he going to do? Walk outside butt naked? "What's up, brothers!"

 

[Reek]

oh... maybe this is the 'spoiler' in question

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=33568899&postcount=980

which i clearly start it off with tlaking about the battle of winterfell... which we know is coming so its not a spoiler. They have openly said there is a big battle at winterfell..

as for whats in the tags.. thats all speculation and rumor as far as we know. If you used your eyes and read... i end it saying we cant trust this lol i don't have the slightest clue what happens in the battle

 

[Reek]

Not spoilers if you have seen the episode from 2 days ago.

Spoiler

 

[Victarion]

*clears throat*

DON'T OPEN THIS TAG IT HAS SPOILERS

Spoiler

Nice catch, Reek. I like it. I know you were dissatisfied with Roose's outcome there, how it was Ramsay that killed him instead of Theon or a Stark...but it really is a case where a legacy built on horror and betrayal ends as it began. We saw it with Tywin as well. I've had my fair share of critiques about D and D, but I think this ending is pretty true to the message GRRM conveys in his novels.

 

[Reek]

Oh no... I wasn't dissatisfied ... I knew it would be Ramsay... just not so soon and sudden like that... thats my dissatisfaction. Sure the RW revenge gets a gut punch because of it, but we still have Walder. (who is what everyone (GA) wants to see anyhow)

*prays*

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Not spoilers if you have seen the episode from 2 days ago.

Spoiler

Wow, nicely spotted.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Oh no... I wasn't dissatisfied ... I knew it would be Ramsay... just not so soon and sudden like that... thats my dissatisfaction. Sure the RW revenge gets a gut punch because of it, but we still have Walder. (who is what everyone (GA) wants to see anyhow)

*prays*

My dissatisfaction comes with how I feel Roose, like Stannis, was wasted overall. Especially with the quality of their actors and potential for the characters. I feel like they were comparable to Tywin, though Tywin wasn't wasted thankfully.

 

[Reek]

that too lol... like we discussed... Book Roose was just straight FEARED and he didnt have to be flamboyant like Ramsay... Roose is the most cunning man in the 7 kingdoms... just thrown away.

 

[godisawesome]

Since we're in a book spoilers section, I'll say that I think that Roose's death will probably make more immediate sense in the books. Maybe Stannis and He die soon after each other, with Stannis dying attacking Winterfell (and perhaps not explicitly ordering his daughter's death, though if the moment is desperate enough, it could work) but Stannis's attack manages to leave Ramsay with an opening at his father, who realizes his situation, but too late to stop his own death.

 

[Reek]

I don't think Ramsay will kill Roose at all in the books... I think Roose is very ill and dying anyway.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

We have individual threads for each episode that require spoiler tags and some labels and a dedicated non-spoiler thread that requires tags and some labels for all spoilers including show spoilers. This thread has been for spoiler talk for years.

And yes the title of the thread matters. If you think it doesnt go post a spoiler in a thread that has "non spoiler thread" in the title and see how long it takes to receive an infraction.

Quit the condescension Marvolo. Spoiling the death of a character that has not yet happened in the book or the show doesn't get a free pass. The thread is fair game for book readers. Posting set reports in the context he did is just plain foolish. I've also read the books, same as you, and can recite more passages from it than you, I just have enough restraint to avoid the sanctimonious presentation on the matter.

Thank you for the lesson on how a thread works, I had no idea. This is actually my first time posting in a forum. Let me give you a lesson in reading - "Game of Thrones - All Spoilers Thread" does mean mean the same thing as "Game of Thrones - Book Reader's Thread".

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Quit the condescension Marvolo. Spoiling the death of a character that has not yet happened in the book or the show doesn't get a free pass. The thread is fair game for book readers. Posting set reports in the context he did is just plain foolish. I've also read the books, same as you, and can recite more passages from it than you, I just have enough restraint to avoid the sanctimonious presentation on the matter.

Thank you for the lesson on how a thread works, I had no idea. This is actually my first time posting in a forum. Let me give you a lesson in reading - "Game of Thrones - All Spoilers Thread" does mean mean the same thing as "Game of Thrones - Book Reader's Thread".

Just show us the post. You are confusing all of us this way.

 

[Marvolo]

My dissatisfaction comes with how I feel Roose, like Stannis, was wasted overall. Especially with the quality of their actors and potential for the characters. I feel like they were comparable to Tywin, though Tywin wasn't wasted thankfully.

They arent the stars of this story. They are a couple characters in a much larger story. Characters that played their part and had effects and exited stage left.

One thing D&D cant be accused of is keeping a character around just because of the actor playing them or because of their popularity.

As far as their casting, they remind me of Tarrantino. They will stick some of the most respected actors into the most mundane roles. Or they will cast a respected actor in a role and have the character do what they are there to do and then they kill the **** out of the character without a second thought.

They have a story, know who the star players are and when a character has played their part they exit the stage. Its not necessarily the most popular way of doing things and certainly doesnt make for the most enjoyable viewing experience but I can respect it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

They arent the stars of this story. They are a couple characters in a much larger story. Characters that played their part and had effects and exited stage left.

One thing D&D cant be accused of is keeping a character around just because of the actor playing them or because of their popularity.

As far as their casting, they remind me of Tarrantino. They will stick some of the most respected actors into the most mundane roles. Or they will cast a respected actor in a role and have the character do what they are there to do and then they kill the **** out of the character without a second thought.

They have a story, know who the star players are and when a character has played their part they exit the stage. Its not necessarily the most popular way of doing things and certainly doesnt make for the most enjoyable viewing experience but I can respect it.

I don't think wasting time and underwriting a character has anything to do with the characters place in the story. This is a good example of why I had trouble with most of season 2. It is a build up to Blackwater, but they didn't do much to build Stannis to it.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=33568427&postcount=946

Ah I see... this is the post Asteroid Man is talking about that happened after the freaking show aired and i had it blacked out... If you are seriously foolish enough to click blacked out tags 20 minutes after en episode ends... then that's a different set of issues.
Read back through the last thread... EVERYONE does it that way in this thread. Marvolo mentioned Trystane... not long after the episode. Roose mentioned it as well, BEFORE the episode. all in blacked out tags.

So before you call someone out (me), take a look at the area you are in, and how everyone is doing it. Singling me out lol that's fine.


Spoiler etiquette? ...

here's Reek Common Sense: Do not venture into threads that will clearly be talking about the episode that just aired without seeing the episode yourself.

I can't believe I am having to tell someone this.

That's not the post. Your post was about leaked set reports from the battle of Winterfell.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Just show us the post. You are confusing all of us this way.

I'm scared to look at it again. It had to do with the Battle of Winterfell set leaks. The post was made right after episode 2 so I thought the blackout was about the episode (or episode 3 promo). I was wrong.

 

[Victarion]

I don't think wasting time and underwriting a character has anything to do with the characters place in the story. This is a good example of why I had trouble with most of season 2. It is a build up to Blackwater, but they didn't do much to build Stannis to it.

Dragonstone looked good but was incredibly small. I was surprised to see how large it was in the books. Taverns and everything.

Roose in the books is a skin-shifting vampire. He's already inhabiting Ramsay, while Ramsay is trapped in his dying body. Very different from the show.

 

[Reek]

This is the post in question, I believe... http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=33568899&postcount=980

Since we are giving lessons out on reading... The first sentence says "I don't know how this changes the battle of winterfell" ... meaning... HEY WHAT IS COMING AFTER THIS STATEMENT IS OBVIOUSLY A POTENTIAL SPOILER.

The blacked out text starts with... "THEY SAY" and ends with "not sure how much faith we can have in those spoilers"... Considering NO ONE KNOWS MUCH OF ANYTHING ABOUT EPISODE 9, or the battle.

But by all means, continue to read things that are blacked out following a statement that clearly insinuates potential spoilers.

"I can't believe they killed off [blackout]Ned Stark![/blackout] "

If you are foolish enough to highlight that (IT SAYS NED STARK!) then that is far from my problem.

 

[Reek]

That's not the post. Your post was about leaked set reports from the battle of Winterfell.

So... Why would you read blacked out text after i clearly stated "I don't know how this changes the battle of winterfell..." ?

The Battle of Winterfell is WIDELY known to be episode 9 or 10... maybe even 8. NO one knows... ITS CLEARLY not from freaking episode 2. As you watched it yourself and knew the battle wasn't that episode... If you thought it was about episode 3... which hasn't even happened.. Why on earth read it if you are so worried about spoilers?

Please.. lets hear this.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I'm scared to look at it again. It had to do with the Battle of Winterfell set leaks. The post was made right after episode 2 so I thought the blackout was about the episode (or episode 3 promo). I was wrong.

That is what all this whining is about? That is your own fault. How in the hell are you blaming Reek and giving us all spoiler lessons? Dude, it was covered as a spoiler. Don't read it, if you don't want to read spoilers. That is a risk you take and it even prepared you for it.

 

[Reek]

MAJOR SPOILER (from 3 days ago, if you haven't seen...don't watch)...and NO.. I am not joking. But it's funny.

 

[Reek]

This is the inside the episode for episode 2...

so... there are spoilers for episode 2...

 

[TheFuture]

Anyways... How will Jon come back? Obviously not what happened last ep... But what is he going to do? Walk outside butt naked? "What's up, brothers!"

I'd like it if he didn't say anything for awhile and just listened to the likes of Edd and Tormund speak to him, while exchanging nervous looks over his silence.

Then it takes hearing something significant to stir him, something like hearing the mutineers are still alive or a letter from Ramsay.

 

[craigdbfan]

I will say this. I remember having a discussion on here with Bolton and telling him that the series now had a possiblity of going into an "anime ending only" type of situation. This is a standard practice in Japanese animation as the manga (comic) hasn't had enough time to catch up with the anime so the producers decide to give it an "anime only ending".

Which sometime uses some vague and summarized notes on how the author plans to end the story and how they get there. Which is what HBO did for Game of Thrones. Now the danger in that is that you can tell that the authors original vision has either been fragmented, streamlined or completely changed.

We're starting to already see some of that by observing the overall structure and interactions of the characters. It's definitely reminding me of that.

 

[dude stannis]

It's been like that since the beginning of Season 5 if not earlier.