Game of Thrones - Book Readers' Thread - - - - - - - Part 24

[Reek]

the theon/sansa chase music is different

 

[TheFuture]

Those are on the soundtrack.

Nice, think I'll have to buy it now.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

If Bran is to be the General against the White Walkers and he's supposed to command three others, is it safe to assume those three are Jon, Dany and Jaime?

 

[Reek]

wait what

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

Didn't Bran learn from the 3ER that he was going to be the general that leads the army against the White Walkers and that he would have three champions/armies to command?

 

[Roose Bolton]

There are three major protagonists in the series, but Jaimie isn't one of them.

 

[Unbreakable Lex]

There are three major protagonists in the series, but Jaimie isn't one of them.

So Arya?

 

[Roose Bolton]

No, and not Sansa either. Tyrion's more important than either of them, and his own siblings for that matter.

 

[Reek]

Gendry.

 

[Reek]

Anyone else kind of think Sansa expected Jon to die?(as she did Rickon)... She seemed more about besting Ramsay when the Knights of the Vale attacked... but when she saw Jon running with Wun Wun and Tormund... she had a look of astonishment.

[BLACKOUT]Maybe this contributes to her naming him King in the North.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[TheFuture]

Anyone else kind of think Sansa expected Jon to die?(as she did Rickon)... She seemed more about besting Ramsay when the Knights of the Vale attacked... but when she saw Jon running with Wun Wun and Tormund... she had a look of astonishment.

[BLACKOUT]Maybe this contributes to her naming him King in the North.[/BLACKOUT]

I like to think she was pleasantly surprised, she did try her best to warn him about Ramsay I mean.

Littlefinger just had a look of oh yes....who's your daddy. He's an awful bollox.

 

[Marvolo]

She seemed relieved and happy to me. Like she was thinking, "Oh thank the gods he is still alive." Im sure she expected him to be dead when she saw the battlefield and those hills of corpses.

 

[Charlatan]

No, and not Sansa either. Tyrion's more important than either of them, and his own siblings for that matter.

yeah the prevailing theory is that Jon,Dany and Tyrion are the 3 heads of the Dragon. "The Dragon" to me is Bran. It's been foretold that Bran will fly. Maybe he wargs into a dragon? It's also a legend that there are Ice Dragons.
Maybe the Night's King resurrects one and Bran wargs into it?

I dunno but it does seem that Tyrion and the dragons get along.

 

[Marvolo]

I would love to see one or both of those dragons remember Tyrion's kindness and protect him from someone. Similar to how Drogon is protective of Dany.

Like when Dany and tyrion finally get to King's Landing if Cersei is still alive have her threaten him or order him killed and have one or both of those dragons step in front of Tyrion or roar at Cersei for threatening him.

 

[mr. peasant]

yeah the prevailing theory is that Jon,Dany and Tyrion are the 3 heads of the Dragon.

The main argument against that is that - at least at current - Daenerys and Tyrion are pretty much aligned within the same faction whilst the "three heads" would make more sense to represent the three leaders of the main factions - namely, the North, King's Landing and Daenerys'.

 

[Charlatan]

I still say it would be those 3

 

[Victarion]

Maybe Bran will earn himself a nickname like "the Dragon" for his ferocity as a commander in the Long Night. His three heads are the three that can best effect his war plans - Tyrion, Jon, Danaerys.

 

[Legion]

yeah the prevailing theory is that Jon,Dany and Tyrion are the 3 heads of the Dragon. "The Dragon" to me is Bran. It's been foretold that Bran will fly. Maybe he wargs into a dragon? It's also a legend that there are Ice Dragons.
Maybe the Night's King resurrects one and Bran wargs into it?

I dunno but it does seem that Tyrion and the dragons get along.

Dany can command all three dragons herself as we saw in the last episode. I'm not sure what having Tyrion and Jon riding them would bring to the story. It also seems like really generic fantasy to have the three main characters riding off to victory on their magic dragons. Even if that's what the dragon must have three heads prophecy suggests I don't see that happening in the story.

Bran warging a dragon also seems like a waste of his greenseer abilities. We don't really know the full extent of his abilities but being able to influence people anywhere at anytime seems more interesting than just controlling a bigger more powerful beast than he has before. Especially since again, Dany doesn't appear to have problems getting the dragons to fight for her and there are other people who are not greenseers that could potentially ride them and control them. I don't see Bran warging dragons unless the purpose is to have them destroy Dany or if Dany dies and they become uncontrollable.

I think Bran being told he would fly was just a way of saying he would become amazing. If it just meant he would warg into flying animals he probably could have done that already at that point.

 

[Marvolo]

Dany can command all three dragons herself as we saw in the last episode. I'm not sure what having Tyrion and Jon riding them would bring to the story. It also seems like really generic fantasy to have the three main characters riding off to victory on their magic dragons. Even if that's what the dragon must have three heads prophecy suggests I don't see that happening in the story.

Bran warging a dragon also seems like a waste of his greenseer abilities. We don't really know the full extent of his abilities but being able to influence people anywhere at anytime seems more interesting than just controlling a bigger more powerful beast than he has before. Especially since again, Dany doesn't appear to have problems getting the dragons to fight for her and there are other people who are not greenseers that could potentially ride them and control them. I don't see Bran warging dragons unless the purpose is to have them destroy Dany or if Dany dies and they become uncontrollable.

I think Bran being told he would fly was just a way of saying he would become amazing. If it just meant he would warg into flying animals he probably could have done that already at that point.

Bran controlling a bunch of people isnt going to help them against thousands of wights and white walkers. And I doubt he can warg into a bunch of rotting corpses or White Walkers. Him warging into a dragon makes far more sense strategically and as a weapon.

 

[Victarion]

We left generic when D&D (and possibly GRRM, who knows how much of what we see came from him and how much from D&D) decided to set up a scenario where our heroes are turning three WMDs (possibly) against an army of child soldiers whose commander is rebelling against a great injustice.

The series is called, A Song of Ice and Fire.

Book spoiler for the Long Night

Spoiler

I don't suspect that the book's spin will be as clean cut as the show version I outlined above. Dreams in ADWD point to the second Dance of Dragons being Jon vs Danaerys, with Jon's troops being described as beings made of ice.

 

[Marvolo]

We left generic when D&D (and possibly GRRM, who knows how much of what we see came from him and how much from D&D) decided to set up a scenario where our heroes are turning three WMDs (possibly) against an army of child soldiers whose commander is rebelling against a great injustice.

The series is called, A Song of Ice and Fire.

Book spoiler for the Long Night

Spoiler

I don't suspect that the book's spin will be as clean cut as the show version I outlined above. Dreams in ADWD point to the second Dance of Dragons being Jon vs Danaerys, with Jon's troops being described as beings made of ice.

Spoiler

You think that Jon will lead the North against Dany and the South? How do the White Walkers factor into that? I find it very hard to believe that Jon and the North will team up with the White Walkers.

 

[Victarion]

Spoiler

Keep in mind that these are probably akin to prophecies - and like Tyrion says, they're like to blow you as they are bite your cock off.

Early on in her chapters, Dany has a dream where she's riding Drogon over the Trident, burning the "Usurper's dogs," except in this dream they're armored in ice.

Later Jon has a dream where he's leading Wildlings against the Night's Watch, wielding a red sword and armored in "black ice." Someone in the dream makes a reference to Jon as a usurper...Jon is technically a Targaryen bastard, and the first Dance was between Targaryens...

So I think it is very possible. The exact conditions setting this up, I couldn't give you any theories. There are a load of wildcards here though - the effects of the fallout in King's Landing on the south's economy, Euron ravaging the South while Aegon launches his conquest, plus whatever diseases the Dothraki may bring with them from Essos.

 

[Roose Bolton]

I'd say Aegon's more of a worry for Dany than Jon at this point. The Mummer's dragon and the great stone beast will probably throw a wrench in Targaryen restoration.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I know Westeros is beat up and Dany has dragons. But if the show is true, her army is built up of a bunch of warriors who should be crap against a legit army, especially one in armor. Imagine them in the cold.

 

[Marvolo]

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