Glee Episode V: The Sylvester Strikes Back - - - Part 12

[Prison Mike]

It's Will.

 

[Sawyer]

That's so Schuester.

I'm still waiting for him to perform George Michael's "Father Figure" for a student while the entire club stares at him in horror.

 

[Schlosser85]

Some cracky part of me would love for Will to be Katie.

 

[Sawyer]

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My Gawd...

 

[Schlosser85]

Whether you watch that scene to ogle Darren, or to ogle all the girls, either way it's hot. It's just a win-win.

 

[Sawyer]

Plus it has the added benefit of Sue's journal and her shouting things like "Fishy Hands!" at people.

 

[Schlosser85]

Sue's journal is the best thing she does.

 

[Sawyer]

Which is probably why I've been so tired of her lately. She hasn't whipped that thing out in awhile...

 

[Hunter Rider]

This episode was all over the place thematically and I was disappointed that we didn't get more numbers from the unplugged theme as I love hearing songs stripped down to acoustic versions.

I like Ryder and I think the guy who plays him is one of the better actors the show has had, plus he's done well covering both Elton John and Michael Stipe, no mean feat. I am sure it'll only be a matter of time before he does something totally contradictory to the character he's established and become a *****ebag.

The Ryder and Kitty scene was good, I'd rather they followed through and had her be Katie instead of something "shocking" just for the sake of it.

I don't know what they are doing with Santana but she was kapowing in her first scene in the ep, owning all the fitness chicks.

I did think the way they did "We Will Rock You" was pretty cool.

Yeah I liked that as well as Sam and Ryder's numbers.

Sam and Artie's reactions were moronic but not really unrealistic for teenage boys, unfortunately. There is a HUGE double standard about when boys are molested by women versus when girls are molested by men, and I have read comments IRL identical to theirs, so it wasn't necessarily unrealistic that they reacted that way, but I did think it needed some resolution where they apologized to Ryder, instead of it just getting dropped and Sam and Artie remaining oblivious to how wrong their reactions were.

I agree, I admit when I was a teen there was a story similar to Ryder's involving a female teacher and a teen student, the teacher was pretty hot and me and other guys who were about 17 at the time all reacted with the same ignorance that Artie and Sam reacted with, although I felt it was out of character for the latter. The problem with the storyline was, as you say, the lack of Sam and Artie learning they were wrong.

And "At the Ballet" was interminably boring.

Glad to see I'm not the only one who hated it, it seemed to go on twice as long as most songs on the show.

Sue's journal is the best thing she does.

One of my favourite lines from the first season came from it, where she is concerned about not being able to afford her hovercraft.

 

[Schlosser85]

I was disappointed they cut Nightbird!Blaine and Sam (The Blond Chameleon) interrogating Becky.

I'd rather have seen that than seemingly half an hour of "At the Ballet".

I honestly wonder if they dragged that number on so long to fill gaps from Cory missing.

 

[SpideyFan866]

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My Gawd...

This may be the greatest scene in Glee history. and for so, so many reasons.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I was disappointed they cut Nightbird!Blaine and Sam (The Blond Chameleon) interrogating Becky.

I'd rather have seen that than seemingly half an hour of "At the Ballet".

I honestly wonder if they dragged that number on so long to fill gaps from Cory missing.

Probably.

They probably had that song/number abridged, but decided to just do the full version when they had to cut Cory's scenes.

 

[Schlosser85]

I would have rather had Blam shenanigans.

 

[Sawyer]

This may be the greatest scene in Glee history. and for so, so many reasons.

Probably the only redeeming aspect of the episode.

 

[Schlosser85]

I thought "We Will Rock You" was cool. Other than that, I agree.

 

[Sawyer]

The ballet number was just unforgivably boring. The boring aspects of Glee are far, far worse than the actually bad aspects. Usually there's still some entertainment value in the bad stuff.

 

[Schlosser85]

I agree with this. I can't remember the last number, even the cringe-worthy ones, that were as much of a chore to sit through as "At the Ballet".

I'd rather watch Blaine and Sue's Mariah/Minaj smackdown again.

If nothing else, at least it's short.

 

[Sawyer]

It's the general rule of thumb I have in regard to every aspect this show. I'd gladly take a character that continually makes me over the generic, flavorless good looking guy character that is Jake Puckerman.

 

[Schlosser85]

They started out trying to make him a Puck-esque bad boy, then realized how no one would take Jake seriously as one, so now he's Ryder's bro and Marley's boyfriend. Marley herself is as bland a Mary Stu as they come. Her lone character trait beyond being stereotypically poor and blandly nice seems to be her cutesy little hats.

Honestly, the only newbies who have a scrap of character are Ryder and Kitty, and the only reason Kitty has any is because we found out she got molested (ugh).

 

[Sawyer]

I don't know, I started enjoying Kitty once she dropped her whole Christian ***** demeanor. I mean, granted, now she's just basically caucasian Santana, but I'm enjoying it...

 

[SpideyFan866]

Probably the only redeeming aspect of the episode.

Very true.

 

[Schlosser85]

Santana is far more multi-dimensional than Kitty. Granted, she's been around far longer.

All the newbies just seem too much like hollow knock-offs of originals. Even Ryder is a combination of Finn and Sam (who himself was Finn 2.0, so I guess that makes Ryder Finn 3.0?).

And lol at how the writers completely forgot they originally made Sam dyslexic.

 

[Sawyer]

They now have two whole seasons to actually deliver at least a few great new unique characters for ND, and hopefully not just settle for the "new disabled kid", "new ethnic wallflower" and "new dreamy gay kid" archetypes.

 

[SpideyFan866]

I don't know, I started enjoying Kitty once she dropped her whole Christian ***** demeanor. I mean, granted, now she's just basically caucasian Santana, but I'm enjoying it...

Yeah. I feel like they started her out being an amalgam of Quinn and Santana but the Quinn parts just went away.

 

[Schlosser85]

They now have two whole seasons to actually deliver at least a few great new unique characters for ND, and hopefully not just settle for the "new disabled kid", "new ethnic wallflower" and "new dreamy gay kid" archetypes.

I'm sure the renewal for two more seasons has gotten Murphy excitedly planning the thus far unexplored possibilities of Artie 2.0, Blaine 2.0 (which would sort of be Kurt 3.0, considering the last two seasons have shifted Blaine more toward Kurt 2.0), Tina 2.0 (there's barely a Tina 1.0), etc.

They've already got Unique as Mercedes 2.0, I forgot about that one. And they were hardcore making Finn into Schuester 2.0 for a while there, right down to wearing sweatervests and kissing Emma!