Glee Episode V: The Sylvester Strikes Back - - - Part 12

[Schlosser85]

Honestly, I'll ship Klaine to the end, just one of those "things", but I don't disagree with you there, Bill.

Adam was a big old waste of space because the writers didn't make a serious effort to build "Kadam" into a legitimate relationship.

They need to learn to either make an effort into a storyline, or not to start it in the first place.

This whole proposal thing is annoying, partly because it's absurd, partly because they just keep making Blaine seem like he's regressing further and further mentally the longer the show goes on.

Their need to always be OMG! "dramatic" hurts the natural flow of storylines. It hurts Blaine's character and it hurts Klaine's storyline(s), and it hurts the show.

God forbid we just have them finding their footing as exes/friends while still having lingering feelings, as the show had actually been doing in fairly realistic fashion post-breakup, no, we need a cliffhanger, so Blaine decides he's gonna propose out of nowhere. It's just stupid and unnecessary melodrama.

The way Klaine acted in Grease was realistic. Even the Christmas episode was realistic. The wedding hook-up was believable. They had a pretty realistic little arc going, then the writers need a "dramatic" season finale, so we get this crap that comes out of NOWHERE.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Agreed. I thought for the most part the way Finchel and Klaine had broken up was going well and realistic and kind of like how you'd expect it to go in reality. Until the proposal thing for Blaine and Finn going to New York to beat the **** out of Brody.

Which don't even get me started on all the problems with that.

I'd just really really like to see this show continue to try to at least be realistic and explore other love interests for these guys. They're younger. They're all not gonna find their ''soul mate" in high school.

Try out other options for the sake of the show and the sake of the characters and see if they stick. If they don't send them off.

 

[Schlosser85]

Finn going all mob enforcer on Brody was ridiculous (and Finn had been doing so well, by his standards, this season...)

I wouldn't have blamed RACHEL for telling Brody to hit the road, but that was her decision, not Finn's (or Santana's, for that matter, though as their roommate, even she was more peripherally involved than Finn).

Finn isn't Rachel's boyfriend, and he doesn't even live in NYC, so it was really not his business and he had no authority to just show up and tell Brody what to do.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Bingo.

I also had issues with the fact they didn't chose to focus on the fact that Brody lied about what he was doing, but rather what he was doing. Essentially when you have one guy doing something a little on the social fringe for the betterment of himself through college and you give him **** and make him look like a man ****e.

You better have not in the previous had an EVEN younger high school character like Sam get praised for essentially the same thing, but in his case for the betterment of himself and his family.

I can see why Rachel would send him packing for keeping it a secret, but it was the fact that they chose to handle it in a way that made Brody look evil for doing what pretty much something similar to what Sam was doing.

That whole plotline just felt forced and out of nowhere anyways.

 

[Sawyer]

Finn going all mob enforcer on Brody was ridiculous (and Finn had been doing so well, by his standards, this season...)

I wouldn't have blamed RACHEL for telling Brody to hit the road, but that was her decision, not Finn's (or Santana's, for that matter, though as their roommate, even she was more peripherally involved than Finn).

Finn isn't Rachel's boyfriend, and he doesn't even live in NYC, so it was really not his business and he had no authority to just show up and tell Brody what to do.

I still find it hard to believe that Santana ever would've called Finn into a situation like that. Just ****ty writing.

 

[Schlosser85]

Eh....Sam was just a stripper and Brody was actually having sex with customers for money.

The second's a much bigger deal, to me.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

The fact of the matter is he isn't evil or in the wrong for doing that.

That's what they painted him in the wrong for. Not the fact that he didn't come clean about it.

It just felt weird and ****** writing to me to give him so much hell about it when he clearly would've preferred doing anything else than that.

Yet Sam was a hero through and through.

It all comes down to me at least that Glee fell into that whole stupid ''Promiscuous sex is always evil!" trap that society has.

 

[JP]

That was the season finale? Because it didn't even feel like a mid-season finale. And how the hell did the beat the other vastly superior club?

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Lol. This is always a problem with Glee. The other clubs are almost always better and they almost always only have one singer and only perform once or twice, while New Directions has **** tons of vocals and always more performances.

So I'm guessing in Ryan logic we're suppose to believe a bunch of lackluster vocals trumps one powerhouse vocal.

 

[Schlosser85]

The fact of the matter is he isn't evil or in the wrong for doing that.

That's what they painted him in the wrong for. Not the fact that he didn't come clean about it.

It just felt weird and ****** writing to me to give him so much hell about it when he clearly would've preferred doing anything else than that.

Yet Sam was a hero through and through.

It all comes down to me at least that Glee fell into that whole stupid ''Promiscuous sex is always evil!" trap that society has.

Well Glee is a fan of "****-shaming", warranted or not.

And how the hell did the beat the other vastly superior club?

I'm still annoyed by how the Warblers were vastly superior to them at Sectionals even before Marley passed out, then were retconned into dirty cheaters, which still would have had nothing to do with New Directions being allowed back into competition.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

The whole fact that they were disqualified over leaving the stage over a young girl's physical health always felt hollow and fake to me.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I only liked the beginning of whatever their name is performance for regionals. It is annoying that they always go the same route with the competition. 1 wacky group, ND, 1 group that only uses 1 singer. Even though the Warblers were overused, at least we got to the point where they had more than 1 singer and character to use.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Yeah and now when the Warblers inevitably show up again we'll have gone back to 1 singer because I don't see Gustin coming back and Funk is on Awkward now.

 

[JP]

Pretty much every competition:

Team A:
- Superior vocalist
- Superior choreography
- Superior staging
- Superior costumes
- Superior song choices

New Directions:
- 15 Lackluster vocals all at once
- They bop around stage like they have no idea where they're supposed to go
- Same basic outfits every time
- 2 random songs that shouldn't be performed at a singing competition, generally a hip hop/rap song, or a power-pop EDM song. Followed by a horrendously cheesy "inspirational" song.

NEW DIRECTIONS WINS!!!!!

 

[Schlosser85]

The Warblers' choreography at Sectionals this season was the best it's ever been.

Meanwhile nobody in ND besides Brittany and Jake can dance to save their life and they try to do a dance number.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Kitty doesn't seem like too bad of a dancer.

I remember her impressing me a few times during the season.

 

[JP]

I've only seen her faux-strip, but she's pretty bendy.

 

[Primal Slayer]

They hired the actress partly because she could dance. They just never use her.

 

[SpideyFan866]

The Warblers' choreography at Sectionals this season was the best it's ever been.

Meanwhile nobody in ND besides Brittany and Jake can dance to save their life and they try to do a dance number.

Those steroids do wonders.......

 

[Sawyer]

With her pilot getting ordered to series, I'm guessing no more Sugar Motta, at least should it be a success. Not that they ever REALLY used her anyway... also, with The New Normal getting canned, I'm guessing there will be alot more NeNe in season 5. Cue the eye-rolls.

 

[Primal Slayer]

TNN getting canceled should make for an interesting season of RHOA for NeNe. And I wonder how long before she shows up on AHS.

 

[Sawyer]

TNN getting canceled should make for an interesting season of RHOA for NeNe. And I wonder how long before she shows up on AHS.

Hopefully a long, LOOOOOOONG time. Her questionable talent at least seems put to good enough use on Glee and TNN. She'll stick out like a sore thumb on AHS. There's just too many talented dramatic actors there.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Especially with the calibur of actresses Ryan seems to be bringing in for season 3. Might actually watch season 3 of that to be honest.

NeNe was...eh on her second run through on Glee. Hopefully no more of her please, but I doubt we'll get that lucky.

Shame they never really used Vanessa/Sugar to her full potential. She was the light at the end of my Lauren Zizes shaped whole in my heart for a while.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

Eh....Sam was just a stripper and Brody was actually having sex with customers for money.

The second's a much bigger deal, to me.

I gotta agree with that.... Both strippers and prostitutes are skeevy but one is far more gross than the other.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

The fact of the matter is he isn't evil or in the wrong for doing that.

That's what they painted him in the wrong for. Not the fact that he didn't come clean about it.

It just felt weird and ****** writing to me to give him so much hell about it when he clearly would've preferred doing anything else than that.

Yet Sam was a hero through and through.

It all comes down to me at least that Glee fell into that whole stupid ''Promiscuous sex is always evil!" trap that society has.

I didn't take it as "evil" at all.... His lying painted him bad. But i thought they actually (though briefly) made me feel sorry for the guy that he felt he had to do that to make money. You could even tell in his face that it was turmoil to him. I thought they handled it well he seemed like a good kid trapped in a horrible decision. I even felt bad for him a tad during santana's cold hearted snake number....

He was gross and bad for sleeping with many while dating Rachel. Its just irresponsible. Who knows what he could have given Rachel...... Hell Im shocked Ryan Murphy didn't do a std psa episode....