Gotham Gotham Season 1, Episode 18 "Everyone Has A Cobblepot" General Discussion

[Herolee10]

While Gordon seeks information about the recent controversy with Commissioner Loeb, Fish’s allegiance with the prisoners is questioned when she appears to join forces with Dr. Dulmacher (guest star Colm Feore, “The Borgias,” “24”). Meanwhile, after an attack close to home, Bruce deals with the aftermath in the all-new “Everyone Has A Cobblepot” episode of GOTHAM airing Monday, March 2.

Cast: Ben McKenzie as Detective James Gordon, Donal Logue as Harvey Bullock, Jada Pinkett Smith as Fish Mooney, Sean Pertwee as Alfred, Robin Lord Taylor as Oswald Cobblepot/The Penguin, Erin Richards as Barbara Kean, David Mazouz as Bruce Wayne, Camren Bicondova as Selina Kyle/the future Catwoman, Zabryna Guevara as Captain Sarah Essen, Cory Michael Smith as Edward Nygma/the future Riddler, Victoria Cartagena as Renee Montoya, Andrew Stewart Jones as Crispus Allen, John Doman as Carmine Falcone.

Guest Cast: Nicholas D’Agosto as Harvey Dent, Peter Scolari as Commissioner Loeb, Chelsea Spack as Kristin Kringle, Michael J. Burg as Charlie Griggs, Perry Yung as Xi Lu, Colm Feore as Dr. Francis Dulmacher, Dan Ziskie as Jude, Becky Ann Baker as Marge, Nicholle Tom as Miriam Loeb, Zachary Spicer as Tom Dougherty, Jeffrey Combs as Office Manager, Dashiell Eaves as Kelly, Elliot Villar as Thomas Schmidt.

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[Roderick]

Looks like Harvey Dent's back in action.

 

[Uskok]

I guess Fish Mooney will wear an eye patch from now on.

 

[Bathead]

Pssst. Spoiler alert -

Spoiler

Alfred lives.

 

[stlblues84]

Pssst. Spoiler alert -

Spoiler

Alfred lives.

One of my biggest problems with the series in general. Certain characters are in no "real" danger.

 

[HighFivingMF]

One of my biggest problems with the series in general. Certain characters are in no "real" danger.

Works for Hannibal.

 

[COMPO]

I wonder if Bruce's long lost Aunt Hariet will come to stay while Alfred's laid up, either that or the Board of Directors could take custody of him.

 

[godisawesome]

...or Leslie Thompkins, as Gordon's girlfriend, could watch out for him for a bit, thus tying in her traditional place as Bruce's surrogate mother.

 

[JJmelo]

I wonder if Bruce's long lost Aunt Hariet will come to stay while Alfred's laid up, either that or the Board of Directors could take custody of him.

He will probably end up going to Gordon's old apartment to find Barbara and her misfit children. Thus letting Bruce see Selina again and giving Barbara a reason to get back into Gordon's life.

I don't want it to happen but it seems like something the show would do lol.

Ep.17 (Red Hood) Review:
http://otlnews.net/2015/02/23/gotham-review-s1-ep-17-red-hood/

 

[Sawyer]

Curious to see what kind of havok the Dollmaker will cause.

 

[Just_Human]

Well it's off to a good start

 

[Just_Human]

Well that was creepy

 

[bullets]

Haha Penguin looks creeped out.

 

[terry78]

"He looks just like a bird."

Even Oswald was freaked out by that *****.

 

[terry78]

You crazy Penguin....you crazy, man!

 

[bullets]

Oh there's no train.... I was down to one shell. BLAM

 

[Just_Human]

Great episode TBH

 

[Kane52630]

Pretty good overall, though still can't excited for the Doll Maker plotline though. I love Fish Mooney but this stuff was both odd and boring.

The stuff with the GCPD was great. But holy crap we gotta wait until April?!

 

[Lencho01]

This episode was just weird to me.

 

[Human Torch]

Well,being something of a bland episode,it was better by default than the past few weeks.

I'm relieved that they're not dragging out Alfred's life being in jeopardy. Bruce telling him not to jump back into the fight was a nice reversal. I'm not sure why Alfred didn't want to have Gordon involved in the Reggie "investigation". It seems unlike him to afford such a long leash to Reggie with Bruce's safety in the balance.Alfred wanted Cat as far away from Bruce as possible,and she didn't pose a tenth of the danger to him..BTW,Cat showing up was welcome. They're setting up 13 y/o Bruce in some sort of costume. Mark my words.

The Fish stuff: I actually figured Fish for some ornate eyepatch in the future. A blue eye is a bit more theatrical, and so it fits. Fish selling most of her new "family" out wasn't unexpected. It just feels like a more morbid TV series is going on and vying for screen time in the show and it seems like this subplot won't be going anywhere in the near future.

As for the plot at large,meh. More Serpico stuff with Gordon out to stop the GCPD corruption yet again. It was a bit more engaging than the past 8 variations with the inclusion of Dent and Bullock's "Cobbelpot" in the focus.

Penguin gets a bit more to do. Finally we're back to him actually using his crafty little brain a little bit. Is Oswald's hair getting even more weird looking or is it just me?

Riddler just can't catch a break,poor guy. Now Miss Kringle is going out with his equal in the Riddle department! He's getting mighty close to the braking point it would seem.

Anyway,nothing special,but an improvement over most of the episodes since the midseason break.

 

[bullets]

The show has always had a strange vibe . Sort of like the Burton films

 

[Human Torch]

I was a bit baffled as to why out of all those guys in the Chinese restaurant,none had guns? They all start chasing Gordon & Dent with butcher knives!

I was expecting Chin Han to look up from the table and say "But, I'm good with calculations!"

 

[BestGirl]

Strange, but fantastic episode. Too bad there won't be a new episode for over a month.

Dr. Dollmacher (sp?) was wonderfully creepy. I hope we see more of him. That scene with the Frankenstein was the most disturbing thing I've seen on this show, though, and that's saying something. I want to see how Fish'll maintain control over the prisoners even as she sells them out, one by one.

I didn't see any of the twists in Gordon's investigation coming, and there were a whole bunch of them. That's always fun.

 

[JJmelo]

Strange, but fantastic episode. Too bad there won't be a new episode for over a month.

Dr. Dollmacher (sp?) was wonderfully creepy. I hope we see more of him. That scene with the Frankenstein was the most disturbing thing I've seen on this show, though, and that's saying something. I want to see how Fish'll maintain control over the prisoners even as she sells them out, one by one.

I didn't see any of the twists in Gordon's investigation coming, and there were a whole bunch of them. That's always fun.

Fish having any control whatsoever makes zero sense. She is stranded on an island with nothing but a makeshift knife to defend herself with. Dulmacher has no reason to keep her alive aside from the fact that he finds her interesting. From a narrative standpoint, that is stupid. Her storyline has to end. I hope her new eye explodes in her head lol.

As for the rest of the episode, totally agree (review here). They are getting better at focusing on the points that actually matter as opposed to throwing a bunch of disparate storylines together and hoping people like some of them.

 

[Terminator]

It was kind of hard for me to get into the episode after seeing that guy's head on a female body. That looked terrible and was really dumb.

I do usually like the Alfred and Bruce stuff even if there wasn't much of it.