Green Arrow the Movie, anyone?

It's not so much that a my ideal Green Arrow film and character would be dark, but it would be adult-themed, the subject matter being very mature. Humor would be in place, but again not the bee bop bamboozled Marvel humor but through in vein of Californication/Entourage/True Blood style dialouge and situations, especially in pre-island Oliver scene's. I don't mean to keep repeating myself, but it happens I suppose. After the scipt was written, I'd probably bring in Tom Kapinos, who writes Californication, and have him do some dialouge work with Oliver.

Here is how I view the difference between Green Arrow and Batman. Think back to the train fight sequence between Batman and Ra's at the end of Batman Begins. Now put Green Arrow in place of Batman. When GA smashes through the train window and locks eyes with Ra's, Green Arrow smirks before engaging in combat. Now, after after defeating Ra's, Green Arrow doesn't just fly out of the train before it crashes. Green Arrow flips Ra's off.....then flies out the back of the train before it crashes.

Back to the subject matter, which is what makes Green Arrow special. This is a crusader against social and political injustices and not just another crime fighter. For a Green Arrow film, you have to own that and use it to it's furthest reach. For example, I know exactly how I would open up my Green Arrow sequel. Green Arrow tracks and attacks a KKK grouping that has caused or plans on causing violence, and then turn around and have Green Arrow tracking a terrorist cell in Star City. This are the situations Green Arrow must be put in.

And then the little things. Have subtle scene's showing what goes into Oliver being the Green Arrow. A kitchen scene with the camera picking up a shot of a tub of protein powder, show Oliver taking all kinds of vitamins, eating healthy.

Another angle. In the comics, Oliver has been a columnist. Take that and use it in a movie, but have Oliver mail in the columns as Green Arrow as a way to reach out and talk to the public.

I like your ideas!

Some pretty good ideas there. I like the indications of major changes to Ollie's lifestyle to maintain the discipline, training and diet he grew strong by on the island

Agreed.
 
I still think this should be a video game along the lines of "Assassin's Creed".
 
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Joel Edgerton = Green Arrow.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0249291/

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Interesting pick. :D

I still think Charlie Hunamm is the best pick though.
 
Interesting pick. :D

I still think Charlie Hunamm is the best pick though.

For what?

Surely not for Green Arrow.

GA is supposed to be an older dude. One of the few older superheroes likely well into his fourties.
 
at least there was the Smallville interpretation that lasted a few seasons.

as far as a movie. i hope that the Green Lantern so-so performance doesn't kill Ollie's chances. we'll see. I'd like to see a non-origin film, preferably.
 
For what?

Surely not for Green Arrow.

GA is supposed to be an older dude. One of the few older superheroes likely well into his fourties.

I like the Year One storyline a lot. Charlie Hunamm resembles his looks quite a bit in that comic book.
 
Any blonde actor who has at one time sported a beard or van dyke... for Green Arrow.

Honestly, any suggestions based on similar role experience, ability to pull off arrogant yet caring, demonstrated athleticism - anything except 20-40 and blonde?
 
I'd prefer Grell's "The Longbow Hunters" as the source material for a Green Arrow movie. It's so perfect and really nails the character. It's a classic.

I'd recommend it. It pretty much defined Green Arrow for the past two decades.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Green_Arrow:_The_Longbow_Hunters

And yes, he turns 40 in this, and he grew older than that in the years that followed. It's pretty much something associated with GA's character now, being an older hero.


Any blonde actor who has at one time sported a beard or van dyke... for Green Arrow.

Honestly, any suggestions based on similar role experience, ability to pull off arrogant yet caring, demonstrated athleticism - anything except 20-40 and blonde?

Like I said, Joel Edgerton.

He gives an amazing performance in the Warrior with Tom Hardy they say:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1291584/
 
GA would make an interesting movie but sadly I don't see it happening soon, maybe he'll make an appearance in a JL movie
 
Yeah, I've yet to see Hunnam in anything besides Sons of Anarchy and he's pretty grim there. I'm not sure if he can pull off the "maturity for all of 4.3 seconds" Ollie. I wouldn't complain if he got the role though.
Go find Undeclared and watch it.
 
I have been talking about Terry Gilliam for the job, and I have been talking about Darren Aronofsky.
I think Brian de Palma may even be better than those two. He would handle the action well, as well as the dramatic elements. I have seen a couple of his films, and I am never disappointed.
Michael Mann is another suggestion. He works with talented actors and could bring something to this film too.

Hey, I just got to think about one thing. Green Arrow knows martial arts, so if we want crazy physical fights a la M:I 2 then we should call John Woo.


Palma, Mann or Woo turning this offer down? I don't think so. I believe they would be happy to make Green Arrow. If the Arrow TV series turns out to be a hit, then we can expect a film in the years to come.
 
I like the idea of Mann doing a gritty Green Arrow movie. Forget the martial arts training. Make him just a man and his bow. Basic skills are welcome but at the end of the day he should be able to get his ass kicked hand to hand by competent martial artists. I want him to just be a man who wants to do good with what few skills he has. He didn't train overseas for 10 years, he's not a doctor in criminology, he's just a survivalist who's really good with a bow. Play up those two aspects, play up Oliver the hunter (and at some point in the script maybe become the hunted by the likes of Merlin who HAS been formally trained by the League of Shadows) and you have yourself a damn good movie (and possibly a low budget one at that).
 
A green arrow movie would fail big time in my opinion. Hes not a strong enough character to hold a movie by himself, hes too similar to batman and hes not as popular within the DC franchise
 
A green arrow movie would fail big time in my opinion. Hes not a strong enough character to hold a movie by himself, hes too similar to batman and hes not as popular within the DC franchise

Other than the "DC franchise" part that sounds just like Iron Man in 2007.
 
Other than the "DC franchise" part that sounds just like Iron Man in 2007.

well I always thought Ironman would make an awesome movie as I grew up watching the animated series. Hes marvels answer to superman so why wouldnt it.
green lantern is a boring camp character and noway deserves its own movie. God a tv series would even struggle i think
 
well I always thought Ironman would make an awesome movie as I grew up watching the animated series. Hes marvels answer to superman so why wouldnt it.
green lantern is a boring camp character and noway deserves its own movie. God a tv series would even struggle i think

I assume you meant Arrow and not Lantern. Either way it isn't true. But how the Hell is Iron Man Marvel's answer to Superman?
 
well I always thought Ironman would make an awesome movie as I grew up watching the animated series. Hes marvels answer to superman so why wouldnt it.
green lantern is a boring camp character and noway deserves its own movie. God a tv series would even struggle i think

Did you read Kevin Smith's and Judd Winick's runs on Green Arrow? Adapt those and it's easily better than almost anything on tv right now. I say almost because I see this being neck and neck with Breaking Bad quality.

I mean this opinion, no offense, sounds like someone who just saw a picture of Green Arrow and judged. Boring? He's more interesting than the majority of DC's characters. He actually has a personality besides "perfect". He's loud, he's obnoxious, he's brash, he has very little tact when it comes to speaking to people, he's a dad, he's a cheat and a liar. Up until One Year Later all he had was his bow and arrows to fight crime. In what way is he similar to Batman? They're both human? They're both rich? I don't see Green Arrow doing much detective work. Before One Year Later I don't remember him being this super fighting machine and escape artist with an encyclopedic knowledge on every subject known to man. He barely knows how to work a laptop. I really want to know how he's a Batman knockoff aside from some pre-crisis parodies that's even made fun of in his own book.

Camp? Like "Have no fear citizen! Green Arrow is here to save the day!" camp? Unless he's doing it in a snide way that doesn't sound like Ollie. If anything it's more like "Keep your pants on! I'm comin'!" This is a guy who doesn't even really have a rogue's gallery and he's managed to keep books interesting based on his personality and inter-personal relationships alone.

I haven't read the new 52 Green Arrow so maybe he's become this boring, camp character that you speak of. The versions I know from the comics, animated features, and even Smallville, though, are literally the exact opposite of the qualities that you have described. Not a strong enough character. He's the strongest character that DC has. He doesn't need big events to make him relevant or interesting. He doesn't need superhuman feats of strength and willpower. He just needs to be a guy that cares about his friends, family, and home town and fights for it despite his incredible failings as a human being. Green Arrow is the perfect example of a guy you'd hate in person but have to respect because he does good things.

I'm really sorry for the rant. I love the DC universe and it's characters. It's just one thing to say a character doesn't appeal to you and another to say that he's a Hal Jordan (a popular example, though also something that I disagree with thanks to Geoff Johns) with no unique personality traits. By your logic The Question would fail as well.
 
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Savage: Yes, even the Smallville version was a pretty serious character. That's how to make Green Arrow live action.... I very much think so.
But I wouldn't say no to a surrealistic Green Arrow. It can still be serious, surreal doesn't mean parodic.

Hmm, I just wonder what version Kevin Smith wanted in his own adaption before he dropped out with the explanation that superhero stuff is too big for him.

Could have been something special.
 
Smallville's Green Arrow was only good in his Season 6 arc.

They did everything WRONG they could possibly do with him during Seasons 8-10. I couldn't take him seriously anymore at that point. He became a parody.
 
Funny enough I found he was still very much in character with the Ollie of the comics. Still that boneheaded screw up. I liked him more in the later seasons because earlier on it was very obvious that they wanted Batman on the show and just couldn't have him. Later he was more like the Oliver Queen I know.
 
Murdering Lex in cold blood, framing another man, emo over Lois, emo over Tess, emo over Chloe, trying to kill himself, etc.

It wasn't in line with the Green Arrow of the comics or DCAU at all from Season 8 onwards.

It seemed like they didn't know what to do with him as a regular.


The Season 6 Oliver wasn't like the modern comics either, but it was, at least, reminiscent of the Silver Age Green Arrow who is very Batman-inspired.
 
Erasing Dr. Light and Batman's memories, killing Prometheus, emo over keeping secrets from his son, emo over keeping secrets from Black Canary, emo over killing a man accidentally and joining a monastery(this one's a little ironic), the list goes on. Yeah, this felt like Oliver to me. Ollie has done some pretty stupid stuff in the past. Most of his problems are his own fault. I'm glad the show writers kept that in mind when writing him.

I can see the transition from Silver Age to Modern Green Arrow, though. Juuust needed more goatee later.
 

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