Guardians of the Galaxy Guardians of the Galaxy: General Discussion & Speculation Thread - Part 1

[ThePowerCosmic]

Starting to think that Stark does indeed get a signal from space (or SHIELD), which leads to his desire to build the space suit and investigate the situation. I can only imagine he was intrigued already by his little adventure up there when he re-directed the missle in Avengers.

Put it this way, it helps GOTG's stock if Stark has some kind of an appearance.

I hope these upcoming MCU films make everyone else as awesome as Iron Man has been so they can have larger fanbases as well. The Avengers upped peoples' curiosity in these characters, but once their popularity goes up(I'm thinking Phase 2 will achieve this), other heroes besides Stark can make cameos and it would help whatever movie they're in.

 

[Doc Ock]

Makes sense as an ending to IM3. As a result of people targeting Pepper and Rhodey due to him, he exiles himself to space.

Then it sounds like [blackout]Guardians ends with them meeting him[/blackout]

And Avengers 2 would presumably feature both long-exiled Tony and Thor returning to Earth due to something Thanos related

Thats just made of awesome right there!

 

[cherokeesam]

What if?

Spoiler

Peter Quill is someone from the Air Force or some SHIELD space related operation (SWORD?) that goes missing through a wormhole ala Crichton from Farscape and Tony volunteers to go find him (as a possible favor to Rhodey) because he needs to get away for a while. Far fetched, but who knows at this point.

I think it makes a lot of sense.

But I'm trying to tie the events of IM3 to that, because I don't necessarily think

Spoiler

Deep Space Tony is just suddenly going to develop an interest in space travel as a post-credit scene. Nor do I think he's going to go on any self-imposed exile jaunt. If he goes to space, I'm sure he'll be on a mission to find someone, or something. Keep in mind the official synopsis of GOTG says that they're in possession of something the whole universe wants.

In a larger sense, I'm beginning to see the connective tissue that might be binding all the Phase II films together. We've long suspected that Thanos will be referenced in many, if not all, Phase II films, and I suspect that, if Mayimbe's scoop is right, that even IM3 will steer in the Mad Titan's direction by movie's end.

I also suspect that the second thread that weaves through all the Phase II films will be Tony himself. Nick Fury was the true prime mover of Phase I --- he was the guy who, in pretty much each movie, actively recruits each Avenger. In Phase II, I think Tony takes on that role himself.

 

[Xeno]

I think it makes a lot of sense.

But I'm trying to tie the events of IM3 to that, because I don't necessarily think

Spoiler

Deep Space Tony is just suddenly going to develop an interest in space travel as a post-credit scene. Nor do I think he's going to go on any self-imposed exile jaunt. If he goes to space, I'm sure he'll be on a mission to find someone, or something. Keep in mind the official synopsis of GOTG says that they're in possession of something the whole universe wants.

In a larger sense, I'm beginning to see the connective tissue that might be binding all the Phase II films together. We've long suspected that Thanos will be referenced in many, if not all, Phase II films, and I suspect that, if Mayimbe's scoop is right, that even IM3 will steer in the Mad Titan's direction by movie's end.

I also suspect that the second thread that weaves through all the Phase II films will be Tony himself. Nick Fury was the true prime mover of Phase I --- he was the guy who, in pretty much each movie, actively recruits each Avenger. In Phase II, I think Tony takes on that role himself.

Remember a few days ago I was geeking out because I suddenly remembered that Thanos and Drax first appeared in Iron Man #55? I conjectured that Marvel might be planning to send Tony into space because that's exactly how the whole Thanos epic kicked off in the comics. Now other sources are indicating that I might have been right in my speculations. I mention all this not merely to toot my own horn (yay, me! t but also because the story in IM55 could give us a clear view of what will happen in GotG.


While the story in the comic book is a bit confusing, one thing is clear: Tony Stark ended up in space because Thanos' goons kidnapped him. The abduction happened after Drax contacted Stark telepathically asking for help. So there is the way Stark/Iron Man could get into space and become involved with Thanos and the GotG. The original can easily serve as a template upon which the films' writers can build and improve.


In the original story it's not clear how Drax, Mentor and Thanos became aware of Stark's existence and targeted him. The MCU has that covered since Thanos and The Other are already very well aware of The Avengers' existence. There are any number of plausible scenarios in which the Mad Titan might decide that capturing Stark would aid in his plans to conquer Earth and/or confront the heroes who defeated his army.


This is brilliant, IMO. It allows Marvel to stay true to the comic while adapting it to the events in the MCU. Although some fans who are ignorant of the original story will argue that Iron Man is being shoehorned into it just because he has name recognition, that couldn't be farther from the truth. It all flows organically from that first comic books story, through the Avengers (both in the MCU and the comics) and on to GotG. There is room for Captain Mar-Vell and Warlock, too. It's gonna be one helluva ride.

 

[Rock Sexton]

In the original story it's not clear how Drax, Mentor and Thanos became aware of Stark's existence and targeted him. The MCU has that covered since Thanos and The Other are already very well aware of The Avengers' existence. There are any number of plausible scenarios in which the Mad Titan might decide that capturing Stark would aid in his plans to conquer Earth and/or confront the heroes who defeated his army.

Well, remember Stark was the one who sent Thanos that nice missle as a gift. That's one reason for getting on his radar.

 

[cherokeesam]

Well, remember Stark was the one who sent Thanos that nice missle as a gift. That's one reason for getting on his radar.

Good point.
I don't think you could actually work Drax into the MCU version as the one who contacts Tony --- that'd be too random --- but I'm sure Thanos took careful notice of one particular superhero who blew the crap out of his Chitauri fleet. Reason enough for Thanos to seek revenge, or at least get this guy out of the way, or even "swayed to the Dark Side."

 

[Spideyfan93]

I'm getting hyped by the potential at hand. Except people who don't know the Guardians, like me...but general audiences who have no clue at all just like Thanos in Avengers, will be like "what the ****?"

Haha!

 

[Rock Sexton]

I'm getting hyped by the potential at hand. Except people who don't know the Guardians, like me...but general audiences who have no clue at all just like Thanos in Avengers, will be like "what the ****?"

Haha!

I just can't wait for Thanos. I'm more psyched about him than any other aspect of the MCU.

 

[jaqua99]

^ Same haha

 

[cherokeesam]

Not me. I don't like Thanos at all, and know very little about him. Is he supposed to be powerful or something?

 

[jaqua99]

one thing that is confusing me about latinreviews report though, their first report with the diamond. That certainly can point to vision and very well may be the case, AND we have ironman going up into space meeting the gotg? Could one of these be incorrect, or false? How the HELL will they both work lol

 

[cherokeesam]

one thing that is confusing me about latinreviews report though, their first report with the diamond. That certainly can point to vision and very well may be the case, AND we have ironman going up into space meeting the gotg? Could one of these be incorrect, or false? How the HELL will they both work lol

People are *assuming* Mayimbe's hand signal meant "diamond." That's a big, big assumption, and one that is probably wrong.

His sign also means --- and a lot of people picked up on it, jokingly --- a woman's vagina.

He followed up with an Instagram of a USAF insignia from a fighter jet.

Vagina + USAF fighter jet = starting to look more and more like Ms. Marvel instead of Vision, imho. And GOTG would be the perfect place to introduce her. Hell, she might even be available for Avengers 2, if that's the case.

 

[Mr. Dent]

Remember a few days ago I was geeking out because I suddenly remembered that Thanos and Drax first appeared in Iron Man #55? I conjectured that Marvel might be planning to send Tony into space because that's exactly how the whole Thanos epic kicked off in the comics. Now other sources are indicating that I might have been right in my speculations. I mention all this not merely to toot my own horn (yay, me! t but also because the story in IM55 could give us a clear view of what will happen in GotG.


While the story in the comic book is a bit confusing, one thing is clear: Tony Stark ended up in space because Thanos' goons kidnapped him. The abduction happened after Drax contacted Stark telepathically asking for help. So there is the way Stark/Iron Man could get into space and become involved with Thanos and the GotG. The original can easily serve as a template upon which the films' writers can build and improve.


In the original story it's not clear how Drax, Mentor and Thanos became aware of Stark's existence and targeted him. The MCU has that covered since Thanos and The Other are already very well aware of The Avengers' existence. There are any number of plausible scenarios in which the Mad Titan might decide that capturing Stark would aid in his plans to conquer Earth and/or confront the heroes who defeated his army.


This is brilliant, IMO. It allows Marvel to stay true to the comic while adapting it to the events in the MCU. Although some fans who are ignorant of the original story will argue that Iron Man is being shoehorned into it just because he has name recognition, that couldn't be farther from the truth. It all flows organically from that first comic books story, through the Avengers (both in the MCU and the comics) and on to GotG. There is room for Captain Mar-Vell and Warlock, too. It's gonna be one helluva ride.

Wow I need to go back through my collection on my computer and read this issue. This sounds like perfect reasoning wow and is even from the comics. I want to think that Tony goes into space for sentimental reasons as well. Although, unless the IM3 after credits scene takes place after Guardians (which I've theorized before) I don't think he'd get a distress signal from one of them, especially since they shouldn't even be aware of him at that point. Like you said though, Thanos does know of Tony and has reason to target him because he's the one who led that bomb into space.

It's hard to fit the debut of the armor and all that in one after credits scene unless its going to be longer than usual though. I'm thinking Tony initially has the idea to go into space because of the events in Avengers and IM3 compels him to and while there we see on the credits scene he gets the signal.

EDIT: Do you know if the original Guardians had any involvement in that story?

 

[jaqua99]

People are *assuming* Mayimbe's hand signal meant "diamond." That's a big, big assumption, and one that is probably wrong.

His sign also means --- and a lot of people picked up on it, jokingly --- a woman's vagina.

He followed up with an Instagram of a USAF insignia from a fighter jet.

Vagina + USAF fighter jet = starting to look more and more like Ms. Marvel instead of Vision, imho. And GOTG would be the perfect place to introduce her. Hell, she might even be available for Avengers 2, if that's the case.

the thing is though. His scoop WON'T be casting Carol. He's said it is a BIG SCOOP, and it is plot related. My guess, like I said in the ironman 3 thread, that it is actually pointing to both vision and carol, and his scoop will be regarding the roster for avengers 2, and maybe some plot points

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I think it's way too premature for Avengers 2 casting. If its Carol, I'd bet she would be in IM3 or Cap 2 first.

 

[jaqua99]

Maybe it won't be casting. He can say a roster without casting. I mean, he said Thanos would be in avengers at some point.

He could say Carol and Vision will feature in Avengers 2. Or Carol will appear in GotG.
This is just what I think, we'll see sunday I suppose

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

Maybe it won't be casting. He can say a roster without casting. I mean, he said Thanos would be in avengers at some point.

He could say Carol and Vision will feature in Avengers 2. Or Carol will appear in GotG.
This is just what I think, we'll see sunday I suppose

well, he teased a new hint for today, so maybe we can count 1+1 together in just a few hours

 

[jaqua99]

well, he teased a new hint for today, so maybe we can count 1+1 together in just a few hours

what new hint did he tease besides the two pictures and his scoop regardin ironman going into space?

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

what new hint did he tease besides the two pictures and his scoop regardin ironman going into space?

https://***********/elmayimbe

elmayimbe ‏@elmayimbe will be making a special guest star appearance today at Forbidden Planet to reveal the latest Marvel clue on instagram. RT

this one

 

[jaqua99]

this one

yeah saw that, sorry, I read your post wrong, I thought you meant he posted another hint. Perfect, I have class till 630pm tonight, and I am about to headout now (2:25 where I am at) So I will be coming home to some news, and my new drum mics. A good day

 

[Whiskey Tango]

I am almost certain the Air Force star is alluding to Carol. They need to field more female characters than just Black Widow and Maria Hill.

 

[Xeno]

Wow I need to go back through my collection on my computer and read this issue. This sounds like perfect reasoning wow and is even from the comics. I want to think that Tony goes into space for sentimental reasons as well. Although, unless the IM3 after credits scene takes place after Guardians (which I've theorized before) I don't think he'd get a distress signal from one of them, especially since they shouldn't even be aware of him at that point. Like you said though, Thanos does know of Tony and has reason to target him because he's the one who led that bomb into space.

It's hard to fit the debut of the armor and all that in one after credits scene unless its going to be longer than usual though. I'm thinking Tony initially has the idea to go into space because of the events in Avengers and IM3 compels him to and while there we see on the credits scene he gets the signal.

EDIT: Do you know if the original Guardians had any involvement in that story?

The original Guardians weren't involved in the Thanos saga at all. That first GotG team was from an alternate future -- the 31st Century, I believe -- so they only met the Avengers when they somehow travelled back through time.


Iron Man's space armor will probably be revealed during the movie as he's locked away in his workshop creating new weaponry. Feige described Stark as having retreated from the world and holed himself up in the workshop because he is convinced that he needs to wear the armor constantly. Combining that info with the rumor that Tony will create and use forty-something different versions of his armor in the final battle, it's not too big a stretch to guess that the space armor will be among them. He never even has to specify what it does since he's only using controlling the other armors with his AI to help in the fight.


With the space armor already visually introduced, Stark can then go on to test it in the post-credit sequence. He decides to go out of the atmosphere (probably against JARVIS's wishes) to see if the armor is up to the rigors of space travel. But Tony's plans of a short test flight are ruined when Thanos' massive starship Sanctuary II appears ahead of him (or, alternately, an Einstein-Rosen Bridge opens up) and he finds himself taking an interstellar detour....


That's how I envision it happening. I'm wrong, of course; it'll be far different and better than I can imagine, if it happens at all. However they work it, Iron Man & GotG FTW!

 

[SuperSAINT]

the thing is though. His scoop WON'T be casting Carol. He's said it is a BIG SCOOP, and it is plot related. My guess, like I said in the ironman 3 thread, that it is actually pointing to both vision and carol, and his scoop will be regarding the roster for avengers 2, and maybe some plot points

Just announcing that Danvers will be in the MCU is big enough to be considered a big scoop.

Much better than announcing who the 5 core members of the JL will be anyway.

 

[Doc Ock]

Carol would be exciting, it would be one of those things to begin pushing the snowball down the snowy mountain. The MCU to me is growing into possibly one of the must exciting movie franchises...ever.

(Especially if the rumors surrounding certain characters being in IM3 and T:TDW aka Strange and Janet are true, with the addition of the GOTG stuff)

 

[Suzanne78]

I would *freakin'* love it if they announced Carol Danvers was making some, any appearance, at all, in the MCU at this point. Although I'm still kind of excited about Dr. Strange and Ant-Man, I really, really want Feige to get the ball rolling on a Captain Marvel movie... especially if the recent rumors about Carol's book getting cancelled by summer pan out.

I adore Carol Danvers. Desperately want her in a movie. Throw in Shulkie or Spiderwoman for that matter.

(really just want more female superheroes in movies, goshdarnit!)