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Guillermo Del Toro to direct "Crimson Peak" (or not, you never know...)

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After seeing this I think Del Toro probably could have gotten a PG-13 for box office's sake. Not sure how another box office debacle will affect Del Toro's career. He's still yet to have that huge win that so many of the other big budgeted directors have.

Frankly, I doubt this film was ever going to be much of a box office hit so Im glad he stood by the R rating rather than compromising the film in some futile attempt to make a profit.
 
The dialogue in Hellboy 2 was too juvenile and the tone was too goofy and melodramatic. The troll market sequence was a Star Wars cantina ripoff and the final scene felt like it was written by someone in pre-school. It's a shame because I too love the first movie, the second film is a melodramatic and goofy mess. Let's also not forget the scene with HB and Abe singing Barry Manilow like a bunch of morons.
Yep, you pretty much nailed what I disliked about Hellboy 2. I kid you not, I walked out of that film crazily laughing about how bad it was.
 
Frankly, I doubt this film was ever going to be much of a box office hit so Im glad he stood by the R rating rather than compromising the film in some futile attempt to make a profit.

They would had gotten rid of the [BLACKOUT]incest relationship[/BLACKOUT] aspect of it though it was not too surprising that was [BLACKOUT]"the twist"[/BLACKOUT]. That and [BLACKOUT]Edith's dad's dead scene[/BLACKOUT] would had been edited but other than that, it could had been PG-13. I'm glad they kept everything though, I really enjoyed it.
 
Nolan interviews del Toro about Crimson Peak:

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Watched it yesterday and I enjoyed it. Wish it was creepier like the trailers made it out to be but it was a good film.
 
The dialogue in Hellboy 2 was too juvenile and the tone was too goofy and melodramatic. The troll market sequence was a Star Wars cantina ripoff and the final scene felt like it was written by someone in pre-school. It's a shame because I too love the first movie, the second film is a melodramatic and goofy mess. Let's also not forget the scene with HB and Abe singing Barry Manilow like a bunch of morons.

That is a silly comment. If it was just a troll bar or something then maybe but while it does something similar it is much larger in scope and the specific scenes that take place there are very different with multiple fight scenes, Abe meeting the princess etc.
 
It was probably inspired by it, but it's not ripping it off.
 
Anyone else found it very similar to The Devil's Backbone? From the opening and closing narration, to the main theme of fearing the living. The ghosts even had that same floating blood effect.
 
Anyone else found it very similar to The Devil's Backbone? From the opening and closing narration, to the main theme of fearing the living. The ghosts even had that same floating blood effect.

Not just the same floating blood

Thomas's ghost was a complete re-use of Santi's design and color scheme in The Devil's Backbone with the shattered porcelain pattern around his head wound and the white yellow and rust coloring. It was so strange to see after watching the special features for the devils backbone and hearing the weeks of discussion and design work that went into Santi. The coloring in particular was carefully chosen to fit with the rest of the production design of the orphanage and the pool. It was especially jarring considering the two characters have nearly nothing in common. I am very interested to hear GDT's reasoning for this.
 
Damn.

I know many here (myself included) criticize GDT recently, but how many of yall have seen the film? I did. a solid 7.
 
Damn.

I know many here (myself included) criticize GDT recently, but how many of yall have seen the film? I did. a solid 7.

I'm sticking with they guy whether he makes a $200 million blockbuster or a $2 million Spanish flick next. Just because the guy makes bad descisions, doesn't mean I'm about to abandon him. But yes, some people seem more concerned about his box office than his actual films.
 
I'm sticking with they guy whether he makes a $200 million blockbuster or a $2 million Spanish flick next. Just because the guy makes bad descisions, doesn't mean I'm about to abandon him. But yes, some people seem more concerned about his box office than his actual films.

Its a little weird to see most of the discussion be people playing career manager.
 
Its a little weird to see most of the discussion be people playing career manager.

Yeah, there's some weird people like that. I'm annoyed at myself for always getting sucked into dicussions like that. I'd rather just go watch Crimson Peak and wait until GDT is on set with rolling cameras.
 
In that chat with Nolan, GDT mentioned that nearly all of the ghosts that Edith encounters are representative of different elements of femininity. I'd have to see it again to dig into that a bit more.

Without being spoilery, I have to say I really expected there more to be done with thos big well looking things full of the liquid clay. It seemed like they were setting something up and it would have been pretty nuts to see 6 ghosts rise up all at once.

Does blood red clay like in this film really exist? Either way I thought it was a great element.
 
I love GDT. I genuinely do. I think Pan's Labyrinth is an absolute masterpiece, and Cronos and Devil's Backbone are close to that too. I like Hellboy and Pacific Rim. And I liked some things about Crimson Peak a lot.

But perhaps that's why I've read his interviews book, and i've researched a lot about what he has to say about his projects. How he thinks about them and what it all means for him. Once you do that, they're all absolutely fantastic.

He really, really needs people to help him write and flesh out those ideas. To help him communicate them better to the audience. His films are way too personal for most people to get everything he wants to say.
 
Cronos displays Del Toro's potential, but in that film he never completely reached it due to his lack of experience. Pearlman's character for example is for some reason forced into a final confrontation with the main character, even though he doesn't have many reasons to do so. It's an interesting film, but i wouldn't even rank it in his top 3. It's been years since i last watched the Hellboy films, but here's how i would rank Del Toro's work so far:

Pan's Labyrinth
Devil's Backbone

Hellboy II
Crimson Peak
Pacific Rim
Blade II
Hellboy
Cronos


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This movie was pretty weak. The three leads did a solid job and some of the imagery was cool, but so much of it looked too fake to be even remotely scary. The story was pretty underwhelming too. I kept waiting for something truly shocking to put it over the top, but it just kind of stayed in the same mediocre place from start to finish. The ghost stuff almost feels like an afterthought at times, thrown in as part of an effort to give the movie a shot in the arm whenever it needs it.

Also, can we just stop putting Charlie Hunnam in movies? My god, it's as if they brought him in to suck all the charisma out of the room. Five minutes with his boring opthamologist and it's no wonder why Mia Wasakowska decided to run off to Castlevania with the Evil Tim Burton Incest Twins. I know everyone loved Hunnam on Sons of Anarchy, but between this and his bland performance in Pacific Rim, I don't need to ever see Charlie in anything again.
 
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I love GDT. I genuinely do. I think Pan's Labyrinth is an absolute masterpiece, and Cronos and Devil's Backbone are close to that too. I like Hellboy and Pacific Rim. And I liked some things about Crimson Peak a lot.

But perhaps that's why I've read his interviews book, and i've researched a lot about what he has to say about his projects. How he thinks about them and what it all means for him. Once you do that, they're all absolutely fantastic.

He really, really needs people to help him write and flesh out those ideas. To help him communicate them better to the audience. His films are way too personal for most people to get everything he wants to say.

Its also a matter of so much of what he says he says primarily through color and the blocking of scenes.
 
Its also a matter of so much of what he says he says primarily through color and the blocking of scenes.

Yes, and i think he really is a genius in that way. But honestly, how many people gets everything he says through color and visual metaphors before he talks about it on interviews or somewhere else? I bet not too many.

But once you know what to look for, his films are on a whole different level.
 
Yeah. If a movie requires a director to explain it in interviews, it isn't successful.
 
I agree that GDT's heart is in the right place but he needs finetuning his vision in the script department. He's made a perfect movie out of Pan's Labyrinth and he hasn't been able to reach to that level yet. I think his plotting is fine but it's just his dialog (in English) can be really..cliche and empty. I mean, surprisingly cliche, which was why I had issues with Pac Rim.
 
I agree that GDT's heart is in the right place but he needs finetuning his vision in the script department. He's made a perfect movie out of Pan's Labyrinth and he hasn't been able to reach to that level yet. I think his plotting is fine but it's just his dialog (in English) can be really..cliche and empty. I mean, surprisingly cliche, which was why I had issues with Pac Rim.

Agreed. Some of the dialogue and the way characters were presented in Crimson Peak was really bad. I mean, could it have been MORE obvious that
the siblings were incestuous, with Jessica Chastain's lines and frequent looks of disgust at her brother's bride? I mean hell, they even threw in a Flowers in the Attic homage.
 
Yeah. If a movie requires a director to explain it in interviews, it isn't successful.


Tell that to David Lynch. :o


Honestly though there are many directors that have done similar things and then were never forthcoming in their meanings.

There's a reason why Kubrick's films inspire so many conspiracy theories. The layers are there and you can be sure he meant something but he avoided explaining himself.

GDT is working with a very particular cinematic language. The problem is the type of movie hes using it on though.
 
Saw this film and I liked it for what it was. None of us never really knew this was going to be a gothic romance until Del Toro was tweeting about it the week before the film came out. This isn't a great film, but once you get past what the movie actually is, it's by no means bad. It had atmosphere, solid performances, and when there was creepiness, it was damn creepy and had me holding my breath. Though saying through dialogue that it isn't a ghost story and the ghosts are a metaphor doesn't save it from being something else people thought it was going to be.

It's troubling because marketing can go either way. Usually it takes advantage of its selling points and others it makes the films look different and manipulates expectations. But I think what it comes down to despite that is if the film by itself is good. This is a good movie. It's just a different good movie.

And I agree with Black Narcissus. I'd also give it a solid 7 but how many people actually saw this movie here?
 
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