Gymrats & Stalkers: "I Was Assaulted In A Public Restroom"

[LouFerignoDemon]

I am not so sure. This is one guy where my Bi-dar is not getting a 100% reading. If he is gay then he's mastered the whole "Chris Keller" deception. It's like as soon as I think he might be something other than straight, he goes and does something that clearly defies that logic. For example, he got a call from a friend on his cell-phone, another cop he works with. And they were talking about these girls they had dated and banged recently. After he hung up he said to me "[Vagina] was God's greatest gift to man."

Now if you're interested in me--and I'm clearly a guy--why throw out those weird signals?

He's probably testing the waters with you, to see how you feel about it.

 

[Excel]

Wtf...thats so bizarre.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I'm with Darth on this one. I'm not familiar with your orientation LS but from the sound of it, you have either
a)a possible relationship forming
b)a traditional harmless bromance
c)an untraditional bromance that might turn sour quickly.
Either way, this guy sounds like he is wanting to spend a lot of time with you and the context of which, I don't think he even knows.

It's interesting that you use the word "Bromance". He called about an hour ago and said he needs to go to get a good winter coat for this season. He asked me if I was doing anything tommorrow night and I said "not particularly." Then he asked me to go with him because he said "I need a second pair of eyes to make sure everything fits me right."

It could be a bromance, but...hmmm.

 

[WompuM]

I don't know. This whole thing sounds like more than that. The whole I'm not gay thing was probably just to not scare you off until he got a better sense of the situation. Dude's into you.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yeah, he definitely seems into you.

It's one thing to work out.

It's another to invite you to a dinner and a movie.

 

[Marx]

It sounds like he's testing the waters. The whole situation is just odd. He sends you a gift basket. Stares at you in the showers. And now he's asking you to go to a movie. To dinner. And to pick out a coat with him? (But he makes sure to say something about 'sex with women' in front of you.) I'm with Womp and Mistress, it sounds like he's into you but trying not to scare you completely off.

 

[Darthphere]

But lets take a step back. You guys never go or to eat with a friend after a movie? Like lets say you're hanging out, watch a movie and then you go out for pizza after. How is that a explicitly gay or romantic gesture?

I'm in the same camp as you guys, seems to me like this guy is into you. But dinner and a movie is not clear cut evidence.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Wtf...thats so bizarre.

I know it reads bizarre, but you have to remember I'm giving you all the abbreviated version of these accounts. He's not random at all, we've just become like "homeboys" in the last few weeks. And to be frank I'm not accustomed to becoming fast friends with guys this quickly out of the clear blue.

I must also say that Jason has made zero sexual advances toward me. He's been on the up and up. In fact, the only compliments he's ever given me have been regarding my muscularity or my lifting techniques in the gym--or my gains. All gymrats critique and comp other bodybuilders on that kind of stuff. It's like patting a guy on the ass while playing basketball...it's just a given. But every once in a while I'll catch his eyes staring and he'll just play it off.

When we worked out on Saturday, he offered me a sip of his Whey protein shake. I don't drink after others, but even if I did, that's pretty gay to me. But then he swears by the Vagina Diaries in the next sentence.

 

[Marx]

But lets take a step back. You guys never go or to eat with a friend after a movie? Like lets say you're hanging out, watch a movie and then you go out for pizza after. How is that a explicitly gay or romantic gesture?

I'm in the same camp as you guys, seems to me like this guy is into you. But dinner and a movie is not clear cut evidence.

I'm taking into account that he stared at Lightning in the showers, and wants him to go pick out a coat with him.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Dude, I can't think of any time I've been asked to a DINNER and a movie without it being something more romantic.

Lunch and a movie, sure.

If the only time I had was for dinner and a movie, yeah.

But to explicitly ask about dinner and a movie. That denotes romance.

 

[Darthphere]

I'm taking into account that he stared at Lightning in the showers, and wants him to go pick out a coat with him.

For all we know, when LS caught him looking at him, maybe Jason was making sure LS wasn't checking out his schlong. Unless LS was watching him the whole time, you can't say he "staring" at him in the showers.

Also, get with the 21st century, dudes go shopping together. If Womp asked me to help him pick out a shirt tomorrow, I'd go. Not everything has to be explicitly gay. This thread is doing a lot to bring forward some negative preconceived notions and stereotypes.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

That wouldn't stop me from calling Wompy gay. :P

But only cause I lub him. =D

I still say it reeks of romantic overture. It's possible it's not, but too many signs point to a desire for more than a friendship.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

But lets take a step back. You guys never go or to eat with a friend after a movie? Like lets say you're hanging out, watch a movie and then you go out for pizza after. How is that a explicitly gay or romantic gesture?

Exactly. I mean, he's a genuinely really nice cat. Very polite and considerate. And extremely proud of being in law enforcement. You can tell he cares about people...like he'd be one of those really nice cops that might let you off easy even though you deserve a ticket. LOL

And he's single. That's a factor that I'm trying to keep in consideration here; some bachelors do not like chilling out at home alone. Loneliness sucks--I know. So part of me feels sometimes he is reaching out to me for real friendship.

 

[Darthphere]

Dude, I can't think of any time I've been asked to a DINNER and a movie without it being something more romantic.

Lunch and a movie, sure.

If the only time I had was for dinner and a movie, yeah.

But to explicitly ask about dinner and a movie. That denotes romance.

But what makes it a lunch or a dinner? The time you eat. It can still be the same thing.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Dude, I can't think of any time I've been asked to a DINNER and a movie without it being something more romantic.

Lunch and a movie, sure.

If the only time I had was for dinner and a movie, yeah.

But to explicitly ask about dinner and a movie. That denotes romance.

Not only that, but at least amongst my friends, we never say "let's grab dinner and a movie".

We may do dinner and a movie, sure, but that's not the language we use.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

But what makes it a lunch or a dinner? The time you eat. It can still be the same thing.

Lunch is like a midday "Let's totally hang out" activity.

Dinner? Dude, dinner is the, "I'm into you" move. We both know this, Dodge.

Oh yeah, I forgot he sent LS a fruit basket. That's a little up and out of the way. Sorta like when you send a girl flowers when she's sick.

Though, you and LS might be right, he might just be a vastly friendly person.

 

[Darthphere]

Exactly. I mean, he's a genuinely really nice cat. Very polite and considerate. And extremely proud of being in law enforcement. You can tell he cares about people...like he'd be one of those really nice cops that might let you off easy even though you deserve a ticket. LOL

And he's single. That's a factor that I'm trying to keep in consideration here; some bachelors do not like chilling out at home alone. Loneliness sucks--I know. So part of me feels sometimes he is reaching out to me for real friendship.

The more I think about the more I have to say you may have nothing to worry about. I mean, I think being on your guard maybe a good thing for now but really, some of this "evidence" is really just based on perception.

Not only that, but at least amongst my friends, we never say "let's grab dinner and a movie".

We may do dinner and a movie, sure, but that's not the language we use.

This is ridiculous. I mean, you can call it "Pictures and pizza" and it's still the same thing, dinner and a movie. I mean come on guys, lets move beyond this age old ******** and call things as we see them.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

The old adage of dinner and a movie isn't something people "got over" That's date night material. o.o

That's the old sauce. It's not ridiculous. Most people still suggest "dinner and a movie" as a date. =/

 

[Darthphere]

Lunch is like a midday "Let's totally hang out" activity.

Dinner? Dude, dinner is the, "I'm into you" move. We both know this, Dodge.

Oh yeah, I forgot he sent LS a fruit basket. That's a little up and out of the way. Sorta like when you send a girl flowers when she's sick.

Though, you and LS might be right, he might just be a vastly friendly person.

Dinner is just another word for "Eating after 6". I mean come on now. I've gone and had "Dinner and a movie" with female friends, doesn't mean I wanted to have sex with them.

 

[Darthphere]

The old adage of dinner and a movie isn't something people "got over" That's date night material. o.o

That's the old sauce. It's not ridiculous. Most people still suggest "dinner and a movie" as a date. =/

Yeah, there's also people who would have you barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, don't make it right. It's just words people, come on.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

That's fine and all.

Dinner and a movie is still big time date night stuff.

Best recommendation? LS just goes with it, and when the guy (if) starts to suggest uncomfortable things, let him know.

But like Dodge said, it may not be romantic. (The fruit basket thing still is a little odd, but who knows) Just flow with it for now.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Yeah, there's also people who would have you barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen, don't make it right. It's just words people, come on.

Dude, now you're just being silly. =/

No way is "Date and a movie" even close to sexist qualities.

 

[Darthphere]

That's fine and all.

Dinner and a movie is still big time date night stuff.

Best recommendation? LS just goes with it, and when the guy (if) starts to suggest uncomfortable things, let him know.

But like Dodge said, it may not be romantic. (The fruit basket thing still is a little odd, but who knows) Just flow with it for now.

I think fruit baskets suck period, so I mean, maybe he got a discount on them from helping the owner after a robbery or something. Random.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Fruit baskets are fine.

Long as they come with pears.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

For all we know, when LS caught him looking at him, maybe Jason was making sure LS wasn't checking out his schlong. Unless LS was watching him the whole time, you can't say he "staring" at him in the showers.

Okay but here's the difference. I am what you call a "Chris Keller bi-guy." Which means while I'm attracted to men--and not ashamed of that--I don't get on the roof-tops and scream to the world all of my personal business. I'm discreet with what I do behind closed doors. Was I checking Jason out? Yes. Discreetly. He's hot as hell.

But if he was truly "straight" he wouldn't have been catching my eyes would he? I'd think that STR8 guys just wanna get in the shower, do the do, and get out. They are not trying to see who's looking at them. The fact that he kept acknowledging my glances set off my 'dar alarm.

Also, get with the 21st century, dudes go shopping together. If Womp asked me to help him pick out a shirt tomorrow, I'd go. Not everything has to be explicitly gay.

Agreed. I have gone shopping with friends before, albeit not for clothes. I've gone with my guy friends to pick out sound system equipment, cars, motorcycles, ipods and other tech, etc. And maybe while we're out and about we'll stop by Bloomingdales or whatever to see what's up.

But I've never expressedly gone shopping for clothes with any of my STR8 friends. David is the only man I ever did something like that with.