mrvlknight21
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Well, LS, I still continue to learn about you and as a by-product, learn about some gay/bi culture as well. I have read the first 5 pages and responded to some of the things that stood out to me (in bold).
I was wondering about this myself. I wondered if he was truly trying to hook up with you in some way, or was hoping you would misstep somehow, enough to piss him off so he felt justified in fighting with you.
I am a straight guy and in law enforcement and I dont see myself doing ALL of this for any of my friends, given the same scenario. Some of it, yes, but not all. Mixed signals galore.
Edit: but the gayest part of this imo, is that he wants to see Avatar.
That's something else, I always hear about gay-dar and bi-dar...but seriously, how can you tell? Obviously I have seen guys who portray the flamboyant obvious type of gay that is often seen as a stereotype in Hollywood and such....but there are obviously regular guys who are gay, but do not send out the stereotypical signals via dress/speech/mannerisms/etc etc etc.
Also, as a straight guy, I have never said...nor do I believe I ever would say that "vagina is God's greatest gift to man."
I have no clue who Chris Keller is, so that reference is lost on me.
Alright, another scenario that I will offer my 2 cents on as a straight guy. Would I ask a friend to shop with me? Of course. I have done it many times, even though I prefer to shop (actually shop and purchase, not just browse)alone. BUT, I would NOT ever tell them it was because "I need a 2nd pair of eyes to make sure everything fits me right." Ever. That's just me.
I'm back...and will answer some of your questions:
I think they may have been a combination of both. Sometimes I don't doubt for a second that they were genuinely interested in doing a threesome with me. But my rejection of them brought far deeper things to surface. They were clearly objectifying me as a piece of meat and when they realized I wasn't going for it, they resorted to their original base way of thinking.
Believe it or not but there are some gay men who are racist bigots but who--at the same time--are sexually turned on by the idea of dominating or being dominated by a man whose race they consider to be inferior.
I was wondering about this myself. I wondered if he was truly trying to hook up with you in some way, or was hoping you would misstep somehow, enough to piss him off so he felt justified in fighting with you.
Yeah...which brings me back to Jason.
The next day he called me to let me know that he had contacted the other precinct. He asked about my injuries and then he reassured me he was personally gonna see things through with the two cats that tried to jump me. This in itself didn't really shock me; I thought that because he was a cop he was just going "the extra mile" for an acquaintance. Over the next 2 days he called me a few more times, sometimes just to have a general conversation. And then he would bring it back to the case. But as the days went on, we talked less and less about the case, and more and more about me and his personal interests...like sports, the news, etc. I thought he was simply trying to cheer me up (because I was woefully depressed about my busted schnozz).
But here's where it gets a little more interesting. He sent me a care package from his office. It wasn't flowers or anything like that, but rather a box of fresh fruit and cookies--all gift-wrapped and s***. And there was a card with it from him that said "Feel better Soon Caliph. Remember, good looks are only skin deep".
Now I'll be honest: at first I was like, "Que?" only because again I didn't really know this guy too well...only from a distance. The "Skin Deep" comment threw me for a loop because I didn't know if he was acknowledging something physical about me, or if he felt I was stuck on myself and needed to get a grip. Also, it was clearly an expensive package to mail to someone you're not all that specifically tight with. [BLACKOUT]None of my other friends sent me s***.[/BLACKOUT]But with all the phone calls and stuff I just thought it was unusually kind. Not in a bad or creepy way...but unusual nonetheless. A few days later he called to invite me to join him at the gym to work out. I had missed a few days so I was like, "Sure, fine." But I had to cancel due to some other engagements and we rescheduled it for this past weekend.
Which brings us to Saturday night. We pumped the weights out at the gym and had a really good workout. I must say this: Dude is ripped beyond belief and he really challenged/pushed me to my own limits. So after the burn, we hung out in the sweatroom and as we were sitting there he started talking about politics. He was really interested in discussing Barack Obama and the fact that he thought he was an epic fail. We talked about racism and how he always envisioned himself dating outside his race one day (he's white, brown-haired with green eyes). But THEN he brought up the gay bills that were failed recently, etc. What's interesting is that he dwelled on the gay situation for quite a while--longer than the other subject matter. We were in there for like...an hour in conversation, so I indulged him. I had to get going so as I stood up to hit the shower he reassured me that he wasn't gay. In fact, he wanted to make sure I knew he was "just interested in equality for all people." So I said, Okay, well so am I. I shrugged and hit the showers. He followed me in.
At that point, for some reason, it was very awkward and the vibe between us was weird. Jason doesn't know my business or my situation (none of the guys I was with that night do either, and as far as I know they are all STR8 also), but he kept staring at me. Definitely not in a lustful or flirtatious way, but I showered with my backside facing him and whenever I turned I caught his eyes and then he would quickly look away. Although he commended me on my physique and efforts out in the gym while we were working out, he didn't say s*** about me when I was naked. LOLHe also didn't seem to mind me seeing him. Like for example, as he was sitting on the bench, he made little effort to cover up his joint. Towel and legs all open...like, "Hello World." It's hard to explain but most dudes are just real careful to keep things concealed in a lockerroom even if they do have a great physique.
So as we're walking back to our cars, he said that we should consider becoming workout partners, and I was like, "aiight, cool man, let's do this." And then he dropped the bomb: He asked, "Maybe we can get dinner sometime or catch Avatar when it comes out man."
Now is it just me, or are there a lot of mixed signals in this situation? Ya'll help a brotha out.
I am a straight guy and in law enforcement and I dont see myself doing ALL of this for any of my friends, given the same scenario. Some of it, yes, but not all. Mixed signals galore.
Edit: but the gayest part of this imo, is that he wants to see Avatar.
That's something else, I always hear about gay-dar and bi-dar...but seriously, how can you tell? Obviously I have seen guys who portray the flamboyant obvious type of gay that is often seen as a stereotype in Hollywood and such....but there are obviously regular guys who are gay, but do not send out the stereotypical signals via dress/speech/mannerisms/etc etc etc.
Also, as a straight guy, I have never said...nor do I believe I ever would say that "vagina is God's greatest gift to man."
I have no clue who Chris Keller is, so that reference is lost on me.
Alright, another scenario that I will offer my 2 cents on as a straight guy. Would I ask a friend to shop with me? Of course. I have done it many times, even though I prefer to shop (actually shop and purchase, not just browse)alone. BUT, I would NOT ever tell them it was because "I need a 2nd pair of eyes to make sure everything fits me right." Ever. That's just me.
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