Gymrats & Stalkers: "I Was Assaulted In A Public Restroom"

[Hound55]

All I can say is "communicate".

Discuss getting a restraining order with Jason.

# The thing is people, Jason may not be too keen in having co-workers get overly involved in this particular situation, particularly in this early a stage of self-discovery.

The reason why I say discuss rather than just straight go into getting a restraining order is that I know first hand that police officers and records staff have access to who has restraining orders against who and Jason may not be all too pleased having his name drop into that information without any kind of discussion.

It may not even stop David, since he might hedge his bets that you wouldn't be willing to try and enforce it if he knows that Jason still is living on the down low...

Finding a way to get out of the house cleanly and without losing too much would be my main priority if I were in your situation though. That's the second step right after discussing "restraining order" with Jason.*

* THE PRECEDING HAS NOT BEEN LEGAL ADVICE

Good luck, man, and keep us posted!

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I just re-read it it. Sure as creepy as hell as it is, David....Jason....David(?) still co-owns the house.

So, he can come and go as much as he pleases. Unless you left something out in your story to where he's not allowed to.

 

[The Geek Vault]

You might want to make sure that David doesn't out JAson.... he now has that to use against to use against you guys

 

[NotAHenchwench]

Have you given thought that he's set up cameras around the house? Either that or he's bluffing bigtime...

 

[Honey Vibe]

# The thing is people, Jason may not be too keen in having co-workers get overly involved in this particular situation, particularly in this early a stage of self-discovery.

The reason why I say discuss rather than just straight go into getting a restraining order is that I know first hand that police officers and records staff have access to who has restraining orders against who and Jason may not be all too pleased having his name drop into that information without any kind of discussion.

That's the hole in the boat, in my opinion. If Jason hadn't lied to save his reputation, LS would be able tell the police the truth. His ex-boyfriend is the primary suspect, corroborated by several harassing text messages. He's clearly emotional; no body vandalizes and leaves a digital trail of text messages like that.

It's ironic as hell that David is acting with no thought to self-preservation, while Jason forms a hindrance by acting with only his self-preservation in mind.

Caliph, I think you need to annex yourself emotionally from both of these persons and decide for yourself what needs to be done.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

I must be the only person who would behave like Jason in the situation. Man's not ready to attend any gay pride parades just yet. Let him get all the way out of the closet first before you close the door and tell the world.

 

[Aesop Rocks]

I agree with Spoons, being outed by someones deranged ex-lover would be terrible.

Since I don't know what Jasons "out" level is then I think he should lay low, you two shouldn't see each other as much as you two used to. Who knows, if David was actually there, what's to say he didn't have a camera with him? That could ruin Jason, emotionally seeing how you said he had a family.

 

[Honey Vibe]

You might want to make sure that David doesn't out JAson.... he now has that to use against to use against you guys

Shouldn't we ask why Jason is so ashamed of what he, as a man, chooses to do and be?

AN ATTORNEY just blatantly committed a crime, not knowing that the guy with the admirable dick is a COP. But no, this cop would rather not pursue the guy (who vandalized his own car!). The irony is appalling.

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Shouldn't we ask why Jason is so ashamed of what he, as a man, chooses to do and be?

AN ATTORNEY just blatantly committed a crime, not knowing that the guy with the admirable dick is a COP. But no, this cop would rather not pursue the guy (who vandalized his own car!). The irony is appalling.

Going by LS' posts, LS is the first guy Jason has been with. This is all new to him, it's has to be fairly scary for him right now. He's probably not ashamed, just not ready to announce to the world that he's gay or bi, nothing wrong with that.

Also, LS has enough evidence to go after David without getting Jason involved really.

 

[Honey Vibe]

Going by LS' posts, LS is the first guy Jason has been with. This is all new to him, it's has to be fairly scary for him right now. He's probably not ashamed, just not ready to announce to the world that he's gay or bi, nothing wrong with that.

Also, LS has enough evidence to go after David without getting Jason involved really.

It's not announcing it to the world tho: it's talking truth in a situation where it's needed. Sometimes you need to give up aspects of your private life when it is absolutely necessary. Like telling your doctor your sexual history, or telling the police who you suspect committed an act of vandalism. By withholding information, no appropriate action can be taken.

Ultimately, all the more harm is inflicted on LS by both men's motivations.

 

[Honey Vibe]

Something else I wanted to ask:

We got down to the garage and sure enough my car had been keyed. Also, the driver's door was open yet nothing was taken out and the alarm never went off.

Does David have a key to your car, or does he know the entry code?

 

[ComicChick]

LS make sure you keep copies of all these text messages you've been getting in case you need them in the future

 

[Matt.S99]

OMG LS, you're life is like a real damn movie! Im sorry to hear that all this **** is happening to you.

 

[thejon93]

LS, that's some scary... stuff. But still, I must edmit, this was very entertaining to read. Even though I'm kinda worried about your safety from this weirdo, I'm pretty sure that in a year or two (once it's over), you're gonna have a very fun time telling this story to others.

 

[Casius--J]

WOW LS I'm sorry to hear about all of this. When I read the title I had nooo idea it was going to end up being this bad.

I mean do you have any idea what has made David this way? I suppose love can make people crazy sometimes.

I just hope you can resolve everything, glad your car is being repaired.

 

[ComicChick]

I mean do you have any idea what has made David this way? I suppose love can make people crazy sometimes.

the car accident trauma

 

[kakashi]

Imagine if his next movie is stalking you HERE...your home away from home...

Does he knows about you and this place?

 

[Tsunulia]

^^


Not to add to the paranoia of him stalking you through the net LS, but if David has any video site accounts that you know of then you might want to check those too. If he does indeed have your place bugged... well, you know what happens to people who are in videos on the net

 

[kakashi]

^^ videosite---youtube?

Sacre crap!

 

[Casius--J]

the car accident trauma

oh yeah, I dont know too much about that. Just that there was one.

 

[B]

You should have your own TV show... obviously it is a show I would never admit to anyone I had ever seen..but secretly watch.

Minus the male on male lovin' of course :P

First comes denial, then anger & finally acceptance.. he will soon get the message...but I'd keep a baseball bat handy in your house,

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

This fool has apparently lost his mind.

I would never have thought that someone I have known for so long would go to such great lengths to make my life a nightmare but...here I am. The last 24-48 hours have been even more hellish as David is determined to drive me crazy and harrass me. I honestly do not know what I've done to deserve this...

* David has been in the house. The one I'm staying in. We believe he came in sometime while we were both at work today. Nothing of significant value is missing accept that he took some framed photographs of me and him. These were stolen from the attic where I stored them after Jason started coming over/staying overnight. This is very disturbing because for David to have found them in the attic means he either watched me take them down (far-fetched) or spent a long time in the house looking for them.

* He also took with him--weird as f*** enough--all of my jock-straps...even the dirty ones in the hamper for Christ's sake.

* Over the last couple of days I've been getting a few strange cell phone...calls many of them from unrecognizable phone numbers or "Restricted" callers. Now, I don't know about you, but I don't answer calls from numbers I don't recognize. However, as the frequency and sporadic nature of the calls increased Jason became very concerned. Last night he said I should answer one of them the next time it came through. So I did so and at the other end of the damn line was some deep-voiced guy talking dirty about sucking d*** and getting ass--but it was not David's voice. I told dude that he had the wrong number and hung up. But he called right back asking for Caliph. I can't tell you the sick feeling I had in my stomach when he did that. I told him that he had the wrong number/wrong guy.

About 20 minutes later another call came another call. This time Jason took the phone out of my hand and answered it. It was another cat on the phone--different from the one I had just spoken to. Jason played it cool, saying that he was indeed "Caliph". The man proceeded to start talking about taking "me" up on my offer. Jason started to talk dirty back to the guy (which really shocked me off my ass). Through all the innuendo, Jason was able to get out of the guy where he had got my number. Apparently David had written my number, name and some erotic sexual offers at some mens restroom at a highway reststop--and possibly others. After he got the information he needed, Jason informed the man that he was actually a cop and was tracking his number and that if he ever called mine again he would have him arrested. The man hung up quickly.

Last night after this episode, we actually drove out to the rest stop that the perv had revealed. It was about 2 am by time we got there. Sure enough we found my information scribbled on the stall of the mens room and above the urinal. I obviously cannot type what was written here but needless to say it referred to my physical endowment and that I was interested in a good time. And not only was my full name written there, but even my cell phone and e-mail address. We were able to work with the management there to get the information removed/painted over. But still...WTF. Really??

I wanted to change my cell phone number immediately, but we've decided to keep it because we need to know David's next move and he's still communicating with me via text message...although the text messages have become extremely "kind" and "sunshiny" now, and the threats have ceased coming. His messages mostly consist of "How's the weather?" and "Remember when we used to..." type messages. He has made no further mention of Jason. Currently, we don't know where David is staying at now because he checked out from the hotel that I dropped him off at before Christmas. I called his mom and she was under the impression that he left on December 26th--which was his original plan. This means he is probably somewhere in this city loose and not even his family--nor I--know where he's stationed.

I am sooo ready to take legal action but I'm caught between a rock and a hard spot because of the legalities involved (David and I own a lot of things together) and because technically we don't have hard evidence that David is truly the one behind all of this. For example, a couple of days ago Jason got his hands on another cam tape from the building I stay in and from that vantage point it is clear that the tall "bum" that vandalized our cars was a fair complexioned African American man--not David. He was indeed a thug-type...and we're thinking that perhaps he was paid to do the deeds.

Jason has offered that I come stay with him for the time being, but I'm not going anywhere. I want to stay in my home and deal with this head on. Between the weapons in my house and the cop sleeping in my bed (who is packing a gun also) I believe we should be able to deal with whatever if it comes inside my house.

 

[JP]

:turns the page:



Seriously though, that's effed up. I definitely would not handle any of that well.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I confess, it was me.

If you only knew how much I wished this was true.

But in all honesty, if it's an actual stalker, like, has your attic turned into his spy-zone for you like, drilling holes into all of the ceilings of your rooms (bathroom, bedroom, kitchen, living room) so he or she can look down onto you, or wild **** like that. I'd be terriyed. If it's just someone following you and calling you in the middle of the night and not saying anything.

Oh god... this is going to turn into a slasher film, isn't it. Some creepy guy is living in the attic, waiting for the day he is discovered.

Let's hope not. I doubt he's in the attic. LOL

However I will admit this (and I never EVER thought I'd say it): I truly want to beat David's ass down right now. I mean, seriously. This fool is like some sort of stealth assasin or some s*** like that. The only other cat that wants to destroy his face more is Jason.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Damn Lightning, I'm really sorry to here about all this. things seemed like they were going better for you.

I've got a story about a crazy ex myself. My girlfriend and I originally broke up for 5 months. Lets call her girl A. During these five months a I dated a second girl. Girl B. So, after 5 months of B being a complete b**** to me, ordering me around and absically using me, I had had enough. I broke up with her, and ended up working things out with girl A. girl A and I also had a child together, but due to things and our rbeak up, she elft for a while. So this was also a chance to make things right and get back into our childs life. Well, Girl B wouldn't let the rbeak up go. For weeks she texted me crazy things, had her cousins call my girl A, prentending to be random girls I'd messed around with while dating her, and onc eeven followed me home in her friend's car. I've never figured out why she followed me, as nothing ever happened, and I didn't here from her much after. Girl A got really pissed for a long time because she thought I may have cheated on her, but I honestly didn't, and eventually got her to believe me. Long story short, eventually the texts for girl B slowed, and she onyl texted me or called once or twice after a couple months. Nearly a year later, she called me up, very drunk on New Years to tell me how she cheated on me with two guys, and just kept me around for a ride to places. Was her drunk rant true? Don't know, don't care.

Edit: Also, she keyed my car too, but it was while I was at work.

The whole keying car thing I don't understand. It's so juvenile and dumb...and yet it's seems to be the first chapter in the revenge book read by jealous exes.

Stoopid.

All I can say is "communicate".

Discuss getting a restraining order with Jason.

# The thing is people, Jason may not be too keen in having co-workers get overly involved in this particular situation, particularly in this early a stage of self-discovery.

It may not even stop David, since he might hedge his bets that you wouldn't be willing to try and enforce it if he knows that Jason still is living on the down low...

Finding a way to get out of the house cleanly and without losing too much would be my main priority if I were in your situation though. That's the second step right after discussing "restraining order" with Jason.*

Thanks for your post. We have discussed restraining orders but again technically we don't "know" that David is doing this. It's all circumstantial and David knows how to flip the system legally on my ass in his favor. He's playing a game with me and he's doing it in such a passive-aggressive way that it's hard to really peg it all on him--even though we know he's behind all of this stupidity.

Jason says that a restraining order would be in order if David physically tried to get in my face or started frequenting places I go to. But David is way too intelligent to do that...he knows the system and knows how to work it. So he's using other stuff--and bums--to do his dirty work for him from afar. For all we know, he could be back in California by now.

The reason why I say discuss rather than just straight go into getting a restraining order is that I know first hand that police officers and records staff have access to who has restraining orders against who and Jason may not be all too pleased having his name drop into that information without any kind of discussion.

Jason has expressed concerns about outing him via going through the police system. But he also knows that obviously David is aware of who he is. We have to assume that if David is still here in the city he has probably followed Jason to work and knows he's a cop...and probably a DL cop at that. So that's another card in David's deck.

Jason's primary concern is me at this point though. He actually said that if my life depended on revealing our relationship to his coworkers he would shout it from the rooftops. He is more concerned about me actually being in physical danger because he thinks David is deranged. I don't think that David is though. Do I think he's gone a bit mental? Yes. But I have a hard time believing that Dave would ever try to kill me or anything like that. David is angry...and probably in a rage that I'm sexing another man now. But he's not crazy, trust me. He's calculating and manipulative--and I've seen that side of him in the courtroom--but he's also extremely smart. He wouldn't ruin his lucrative career and prestige for anyone--including me.

He's treating me like the people he's terrorized on the witness stand in court: he's just trying to scare the hell outta me...