Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - - Part 11

[Greenlite]

Lol so SW is gonna throw the entire [BLACKOUT]country of Venuzuela[/BLACKOUT]?

 

[vantheman77]

She only had like 30 more seconds in the UC anyway.

Not much difference there.

 

[Gamma Goliath]

Lol so SW is gonna throw the entire [BLACKOUT]country of Venuzuela[/BLACKOUT]?

It does say hefty chunk.

 

[Ryudoz]

Oh yeah I think he dons the armored suit pretty early.

You know what im curious about? Where is Batman when the League is at Supes monument?

Huh, that's legitimately something I hadn't noticed before in the trailer. That's a fantastic question.

 

[Micromind]

Lol so SW is gonna throw the entire [BLACKOUT]country of Venuzuela[/BLACKOUT]?

Wonder how the movie will be received there.

 

[Herolee10]

Just because we haven't seen Superman in the city with the blue/red sky doesn't mean he isn't there. I mean, we haven't seen all the members in the same frame in those scenes yet.

Well, we know he's not in the Flying Fox (or whatever the aircraft is called) when it lands at the location of the final battle.

Honestly, although it's just a hunch for now, I'm pretty sure Superman doesn't arrive until the skies turn red, which is probably the second half of the final battle.

So far, we have definitely seen shots of Wonder Woman and Aquaman fighting in that city.

And I think the shot of the Flash running through the speedforce before the camera shot zooms out is of him running within the city as well.

Cyborg and Superman are really the only ones that are unaccounted for.

No chance he is only in it for 10 minutes. Total screen time for Clark/Supes will be about 25-30 mins imo.

I don't know about that. Thor only had like 12-15 minutes (I think) of screen time in "The Avengers" and I'm assuming that Superman will make his grand return much later in "JL" when compared to Thor's arrival on Earth.

We'll be lucky if we even get something similar to Vision's screen time in "AOU", role in that film mirrors Superman's role in this film.

Vision was revived at the end of Act 2 so that he could assist the Avengers in taking on Ultron for the final act. However, I think the biggest difference here is that Vision at least joined the group at the start of the final battle. Superman, from the looks of it, doesn't join the group at the start of the final battle.

 

[matt47]

Well, we know he's not in the Flying Fox (or whatever the aircraft is called) when it lands at the location of the final battle.

Honestly, although it's just a hunch for now, I'm pretty sure Superman doesn't arrive until the skies turn red, which is probably the second half of the final battle.

So far, we have definitely seen shots of Wonder Woman and Aquaman fighting in that city.

And I think the shot of the Flash running through the speedforce before the camera shot zooms out is of him running within the city as well.

Cyborg and Superman are really the only ones that are unaccounted for.



I don't know about that. Thor only had like 12-15 minutes (I think) of screen time in "The Avengers" and I'm assuming that Superman will make his grand return much later in "JL" when compared to Thor's arrival on Earth.

We'll be lucky if we even get something similar to Vision's screen time in "AOU", role in that film mirrors Superman's role in this film.

Vision was revived at the end of Act 2 so that he could assist the Avengers in taking on Ultron for the final act. However, I think the biggest difference here is that Vision at least joined the group at the start of the final battle. Superman, from the looks of it, doesn't join the group at the start of the final battle.

Even then, I think it could be about 20-30 minutes on Supes. This is including when/if the league is reviving him and when/if he is angry/confused/evil Supes.
I think we will get like 5-10 minutes of his revival and potential fight with the League. Then I dunno what happens, but whatever the reason for him going to Alfred and Bruce knowing as such will be another couple of minutes. Then his return, quick intro with the league before the battle continues. Him confronting SW. Defeating him, the "join them in the sun" moment happens ect. Thatll all be like a solid 15 minutes. Then I'm sure we will get a post battle sequence of him reuniting with Lois and Martha and being accepted by the world. That too will probs be 5ish minutes.

 

[Herolee10]

Even then, I think it could be about 20-30 minutes on Supes. This is including when/if the league is reviving him and when/if he is angry/confused/evil Supes.
I think we will get like 5-10 minutes of his revival and potential fight with the League. Then I dunno what happens, but whatever the reason for him going to Alfred and Bruce knowing as such will be another couple of minutes. Then his return, quick intro with the league before the battle continues. Him confronting SW. Defeating him, the "join them in the sun" moment happens ect. Thatll all be like a solid 15 minutes. Then I'm sure we will get a post battle sequence of him reuniting with Lois and Martha and being accepted by the world. That too will probs be 5ish minutes.

Well if you end up being right then I will gladly eat crow. I mean I will really be surprised and taken aback if Superman is allowed to have one great interactive scene with the league before the final battle.

I honestly don't want a repeat of the Trinity vs Doomsday battle, where there was little to no communication between the three heroes and where the excitement of seeing superman with those heroes was completely gone. There was just no real build up where it felt like that trinity shot felt earned. It just felt like it was thrown in there.

Superman being seen with the league should feel exciting, perhaps more so than just fighting Steppenwolf.

And speaking of reunions, given on how we don't know when we wi ever get another solo film, I hope that this film at least closes with a a solid confirmation on the proposal part between Lois and Clark.

Between finally being accepted on Earth and either vetting married or receiving a yes from the woman that you want to marry, it's be a great and happy way to conclude Superman's chapter for the time being imho.

 

[matt47]

Well if you end up being right then I will gladly eat crow. I mean I will really be surprised and taken aback if Superman is allowed to have one great interactive scene with the league before the final battle.

I honestly don't want a repeat of the Trinity vs Doomsday battle, where there was little to no communication between the three heroes and where the excitement of seeing superman with those heroes was completely gone. There was just no real build up where it felt like that trinity shot felt earned. It just felt like it was thrown in there.

Superman being seen with the league should feel exciting, perhaps more so than just fighting Steppenwolf.

And speaking of reunions, given on how we don't know when we wi ever get another solo film, I hope that this film at least closes with a a solid confirmation on the proposal part between Lois and Clark.

Between finally being accepted on Earth and either vetting married or receiving a yes from the woman that you want to marry, it's be a great and happy way to conclude Superman's chapter for the time being imho.

Completely agree. The trinity shot didn't wow me at all. Didn't help that it was built up with the pretty terrible "Is she with you?" Lines and then they just stand there lol. I know in the context of the moment there wasn't much time for them to convers, but hell, make some time!

 

[GothamBat]

@matt47

 

[Polux]

I was never a fan of the weird 8 (10??) pack in the MoS suit, other than that it's just glorious

 

[IncognitoWalrus]

Huh, that's legitimately something I hadn't noticed before in the trailer. That's a fantastic question.

I'm inclined to think Batman isn't there because he's the one reviving Supes in the scout ship. Supes returns and is probably confused, but the League doesn't know it yet. That's why I think the League are standing together, looking up at something in the Heroes Park moment in the Comic-Con Sneak Peek. Then a small fight ensues between shirtless Supes and the League before Batman can reach them.

 

[samsnee]

Tom Cruise got injured on the set of Mission: Impossible so production is delayed by 2 months.

I guess Cavill can shave that stache now.

 

[Da-Scribe]

Tom Cruise got injured on the set of Mission: Impossible so production is delayed by 2 months.

I guess Cavill can shave that stache now.

The hero the DCEU deserves...but not the one it needs right now...

Spoiler

 

[GothamBat]

I wonder if they shot scenes with Cavill yet. If not.. wow. Lucky much?

 

[Dark Raven]

Even if they reshot scenes with Cavill already, isn't it better to just reshoot them again without his moustache? Unless they really want to digitally remove it at all costs. Is he still contracted by Paramount to keep that stache even when production has stopped on M:I6?

 

[morningmimosa]

I don't think so. Just like he's obligated to play the part and keep the mustache, they surely also are obligated to wrap the whole filming process up in a certain time frame. Imagine them having to postpone filming for several months with him not being able to take on other projects because of the mustache. No way.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

Aren't moustache's easy to grow? And Henry is a pretty hairy man, he could shave it for 5wks then regrow it back in 3 before production starts again. BTW how did Tom injure himself? 2 mos sounds bad, I'm sure his business people are going to push more for him to stop doing his stunts.

 

[Dark Raven]

Aren't moustache's easy to grow? And Henry is a pretty hairy man, he could shave it for 5wks then regrow it back in 3 before production starts again. BTW how did Tom injure himself? 2 mos sounds bad, I'm sure his business people are going to push more for him to stop doing his stunts.

Apparently he was jumping between buildings (possibly in a chase) and landed short and missed the other building but collided with the side of it. Exactly why he shouldn't be doing his own stunts.

And moustaches should be easy to grow. It can't take 5 weeks to film Superman's scenes. If they push up the schedule so that they shoot Cavill's scenes as early as possible, that gives him plenty of time to grow his moustache back.

 

[matt47]

@matt47

Whyyyyy! Ah well, ya got me going...
I just saw the awful pic of Supes from JL in the General thread. Why'd they have to change the way the muscle definition worked. It looks so much more realistic here. It's legit really confusing, I'd love to get an answer from Zack/Wilkinson about those changes.

 

[Greenlite]

Apparently he was jumping between buildings (possibly in a chase) and landed short and missed the other building but collided with the side of it. Exactly why he shouldn't be doing his own stunts.

And moustaches should be easy to grow. It can't take 5 weeks to film Superman's scenes. If they push up the schedule so that they shoot Cavill's scenes as early as possible, that gives him plenty of time to grow his moustache back.

Just read the Empire article and his director said TC was meant to crush into the wall, and had done it 4 times previously, they were looking for the best sync with the cameras, he was padded up and safe but the 5th time he went at the wrong angle and broke his R) ankle, but he carried on to make sure the shot is preserved, and the director will do everything to include it in the movie.

 

[vantheman77]

Well if you end up being right then I will gladly eat crow. I mean I will really be surprised and taken aback if Superman is allowed to have one great interactive scene with the league before the final battle.

I honestly don't want a repeat of the Trinity vs Doomsday battle, where there was little to no communication between the three heroes and where the excitement of seeing superman with those heroes was completely gone. There was just no real build up where it felt like that trinity shot felt earned. It just felt like it was thrown in there.

Superman being seen with the league should feel exciting, perhaps more so than just fighting Steppenwolf.

And speaking of reunions, given on how we don't know when we wi ever get another solo film, I hope that this film at least closes with a a solid confirmation on the proposal part between Lois and Clark.

Between finally being accepted on Earth and either vetting married or receiving a yes from the woman that you want to marry, it's be a great and happy way to conclude Superman's chapter for the time being imho.

I think you just pointed out why there were problems with BvS - although I liked seeing the trinity stand together there was no buildup between them especially with Superman and Wonder Woman, who had no interaction with each other prior to the climax. Batman interacted with both Superman and Wonder Woman separately.

As the mod said, 20-30 minutes should be plenty of time for Superman to make an impact. It will also depend on how his return will be received by the audience when the film is released.

 

[Greenlite]

Where's this 20-30min talk coming from? Pure speculation from fans or based on a leak/evidence?

 

[vantheman77]

Someone said it came from one of Geoff Johns' interviews.

 

[matt47]

Where's this 20-30min talk coming from? Pure speculation from fans or based on a leak/evidence?

Well, for me it came from speculation and some leaks about Supes.