Justice League Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - - - - - - - Part 16

[Micromind]

When a person coming back from death makes a 'itchy joke' to Lois, who is supposed to be 'his world', you know this man cannot be real.

 

[The Guard]

When a person coming back from death makes a 'itchy joke' to Lois, who is supposed to be 'his world', you know this man cannot be real.

If that's ALL he said, I would agree with you. It's not. It's one line in an entire scene. He's addressing a serious subject with levity before actually addressing it. He's dancing around an uncomfortable subject. It's a pretty common thing that people do.

I really don't see the obsession with this single word of diaogue that people have.

 

[Micromind]

'Levity' was not needed here, Superman sounded like someone who doesn't take his life (and people close to him) seriously.

 

[Legendver2]

When a person coming back from death makes a 'itchy joke' to Lois, who is supposed to be 'his world', you know this man cannot be real.

That's because Superman was never real. Just a dream of a farmer from Kansas.

 

[Da-Scribe]

If that's ALL he said, I would agree with you. It's not. It's one line in an entire scene. He's addressing a serious subject with levity before actually addressing it. He's dancing around an uncomfortable subject. It's a pretty common thing that people do.

I really don't see the obsession with this single word of diaogue that people have.

Did he ever actually address anything? I honestly do not remember that. I just remember the itchy thing. I don't have a problem with him using levity. I have a problem with the joke feeling tacked on and failing to humanize him in the way they actually wanted. If he'd had said something about just feeling really hungry or gone for irony like him saying he could use a nap, then that would've felt more like an actual and relatable human response.

Itchy just felt like something Joss laughed really hard at in total solitude, so he put it in the movie.

 

[Legendver2]

Did he ever actually address anything? I honestly do not remember that. I just remember the itchy thing. I don't have a problem with him using levity. I have a problem with the joke feeling tacked on and failing to humanize him in the way they actually wanted. If he'd had said something about just feeling really hungr or gone for irony like him saying he could use a nap, then that would've felt more like an actual and relatable human response.

Itchy just felt like something Joss laughed really hard at in total solitude, so he put it in the movie.

It's a problem when itchy is the only thing most people remember from that scene, regardless of whether he actually addressed the issue or not. It's even worse if he did, and we still only remember itchy.

 

[Micromind]

That's because Superman was never real. Just a dream of a farmer from Kansas.

Could be, He looked fake too.

 

[The Guard]

Did he ever actually address anything? I honestly do not remember that. I just remember the itchy thing. I don't have a problem with him using levity. I have a problem with the joke feeling tacked on and failing to humanize him in the way they actually wanted. If he'd had said something about just feeling really hungr or gone for irony like him saying he could use a nap, then that would've felt more like an actual and relatable human response.

Itchy just felt like something Joss laughed really hard at in total solitude, so he put it in the movie.

No, he doesn't really address it, because he doesn't really want to. He doesn't want to dwell on being dead. There are other clues to this in the scene, such as when he tells her that he just got out of a wooden box. He wants to feel alive, and embrace that.

It's not supposed to be laugh out loud funny. If it was, he would have said it in a funny way. He even says "Itchy" seriously, deadpan, after looking rather pensive when she asks the question. He doesn't crack a smile. He thinks about it and doesn't want to talk about it. It's a brief moment of levity meant to set her at ease about his own experience and what has happened; he immediately transfers to "honestly, weird, in so many ways." The entire sequence between them is about him setting her at ease that despite what has happened, which is a big thing, that he's back and things are going to be okay. He doesn't want to dwell on being dead.

They weren't using the bit about death and coming back to life to humanize him. Humans don't generally die and come back to life like that. What they use to humanize him is that he essentially decides not to dwell on it and moves on to more human concerns, like the fact that they can be together again.

 

[Da-Scribe]

No, he doesn't really address it, because he doesn't really want to. He doesn't want to dwell on being dead. There are other clues to this in the scene, such as when he tells her that he just got out of a wooden box. He wants to feel alive, and embrace that.

It's not supposed to be laugh out loud funny. If it was, he would have said it in a funny way. He even says "Itchy" seriously, deadpan, after looking rather pensive when she asks the question. He doesn't crack a smile. He thinks about it and doesn't want to talk about it. It's a brief moment of levity meant to set her at ease about his own experience and what has happened; he immediately transfers to "honestly, weird, in so many ways." The entire sequence between them is about him setting her at ease that despite what has happened, which is a big thing, that he's back and things are going to be okay. He doesn't want to dwell on being dead.

They weren't using the bit about death and coming back to life to humanize him. Humans don't generally die and come back to life like that. What they use to humanize him is that he essentially decides not to dwell on it and moves on to more human concerns, like the fact that they can be together again.

Yeah I already understand all this. And I didn't say they used death to humanize him. I'm saying they tried to use humor to do it and failed. I'm all for levity in that moment, but it was poorly done. He could've said so many other things that would have felt like it had some relevance in that moment, itchy just felt goofy and random.

 

[The Guard]

And it feels goofy and random for a reason. He's trying not to address the uncomfortable and weird nature of what has happened to him, and deliberately chooses a response that will not upset her and that will set her at ease. And I think she recognizes that, because she smiles, and allows him to dance around it and not address it.

But whatever.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Cavill said he couldn't talk about the rumors of him appearing in Shazam.

 

[Arachnerd]

Could be, He looked fake too.

I know Cavill has a naturally weird grin, but the CG here really makes him look like the Joker.

 

[RomanticPenguin]

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Could be, He looked fake too.

I see a strange mix of Cavill and Hugo Weaving.

 

[Tra-El]

I see a strange mix of Leather face and Steve Tyler.

Fixed. Still can't believe they did this to Henry who represents the most recognizable pop culture icons of our time. A$$holes.

 

[DerekLake]

I know Cavill has a naturally weird grin, but the CG here really makes him look like the Joker.

They probably had him overdo the smile to make the CGI process easier, and the chin is obviously CGI’d.

 

[Black Narcissus]

 

[Mandon Knight]

There appears to be much that Cavill can not say, in recent interviews, that is in studio discussion regarding the Black Adam & Shazam films.

 

[Jekecy]

McQuarrie seems game to direct MOS2:



The response was so blasé, the cynic in me half-thinks it's sarcasm. But if it's that damn easy to nab him, WB would be morons not to get the contract to him.

 

[Tra-El]

Henry confirmed there's movement towards a Superman v Black Adam showdown. I am REALLY game with the Supes/Shazam universe colliding. Yes, please!

 

[Chip Chipperson]

c'mon cavill, make it happen

 

[STARMAN]

MI6 comes out July 27. By then we'll see if this picks up momentum and leads to something.

 

[Legendver2]

 

[Greenlite]

McQuarrie seems game to direct MOS2:



The response was so blasé, the cynic in me half-thinks it's sarcasm. But if it's that damn easy to nab him, WB would be morons not to get the contract to him.

I think he's offering more in his answers than what you need to say in these interviews...more like the words coming out of desperate actors mouth....but he's not desperate.

WB did talk to him about GLC...so there's contact, relationship with Henry....

The only thing standing in their way, the mustache-gate that fueled the battle between WB and Paramount

 

[Micromind]

The only thing standing in their way, the mustache-gate that fueled the battle between WB and Paramount

There's more to it than just mustache gate..

- Initially Wonder Woman had release date as 23rd June 2017 (later WB moved it to 15 May 2017), Paramount had set the same date for Transformers The Last Knight (23 rd June 2017)


- Now Paramount is releasing Transformer's spinoff Bumblebee on the exact same date as Aquaman.

So, they have been playing this game for some time now.