Justice League Henry Cavill IS Clark Kent/Superman - - - - - - - - - - Part 19

[Legendver2]

My screening didn't even had questions like that. People had zero reaction to it.

It's probably one of those things where it's different for every theater. My showing had people cheer when the big S showed up. I'm just hoping there's an enough positive reaction to give WB the confidence to move forward with Superman again, regardless if Henry's on board or not (I hope he is). Just keep the same suit though with the unavoidable minor tweaks for every new movie, cuz damn, that suit is just too good to just be tossed away like that.

 

[MbJ]

If they end up with a new actor then I could honestly see them either modifying the costume further or just outright doing a new one. Just rip off the bandaid and start over.

 

[Legendver2]

If they end up with a new actor then I could honestly see them either modifying the costume further or just outright doing a new one. Just rip off the bandaid and start over.

Ugh, then the likelihood of trunks is probably 110%, since even the comics went back to it after having the perfect modern Super suit -_-

 

[MbJ]

I honestly never got the drama over the trunks, so I wouldn't mind as long as it looks good.

 

[flickchick85]

I'm indifferent to the trunks. The suit has worked with them, and the suit has worked without them, imo.

 

[Vaibow]

Eh, I don't really think it tells us anything.

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It just seems like the mandatory, must-have-but-not-really-that-important minor change of superhero suits you see with every new installment, just for the sake of change. And it probably looks like cosplay because the suit wasn't purpose made for whoever was wearing it. It 99% was probably using the Cavill suit, and just redid the trim around the belt. Cheap WB ain't gonna remake a whole new suit molded for the stand-in that shows up for 3 seconds.

It was probably a test suit.

 

[Vaibow]

I'm indifferent to the trunks. The suit has worked with them, and the suit has worked without them, imo.

It all depends how they handle it - i agree that a suit does need some kind of explanation these days just to answer the 'why is it this way' if it isn't armour or magically appearing. Ofcourse we can just accept it, but a nice lil explanation i like.

Now, in the DCEU to have red would simply be look wise - if asked he could say 'oh it breaks up the blue and looks cooler' and point to a wrestling match on tv, an old comic on his shelf etc esp if asked by a kid.

I always liked the idea MOS touched upon in that it's what they wore - made it even more crazier they ommitted them, the area could just be red and not raised or anything and it is what it is - which always confused me for Donner's movies, where did that suit come from and why?

One cute idea, teen clark was a good wrestler and his suit was a blue body suit, red boots and the smallville S on his chest and his nickname was super boy - he made a new suit for his alter ego in homage to it - i like to think they gad comics and super heroes - let's say Watchmen comics - being a real life one of those would spur you on to wear a theatrical suit.

 

[MbJ]

It should be noted that months ago, when the movie was still filming,

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the rumor was that WB was modifying the costume. Remember, this was supposed to be Henry debuting as a tweaked, more optimistic version of the character who'd appear in cameos across the various DCEU movies before those talks fell apart. So the fact that the suit in Shazam had some differences doesn't necessarily mean Henry is 100 percent out. It just means they had a modified suit ready when they were hoping Henry would do the cameo, and then still ended up using it anyway when he declined.

 

[Legendver2]

It should be noted that months ago, when the movie was still filming,

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the rumor was that WB was modifying the costume. Remember, this was supposed to be Henry debuting as a tweaked, more optimistic version of the character who'd appear in cameos across the various DCEU movies before those talks fell apart. So the fact that the suit in Shazam had some differences doesn't necessarily mean Henry is 100 percent out. It just means they had a modified suit ready when they were hoping Henry would do the cameo, and then still ended up using it anyway when he declined.

That was pretty much my point.

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It doesn't mean Henry is 100 percent out, but it also doesn't mean he's in, so really, it doesn't mean anything at all lol. As as someone mentioned, it looked cosplay-ish because it was probably tailor fit for Henry, but someone else was wearing it instead so the fit wasn't 100%.

 

[_Superman_]

Ugh, then the likelihood of trunks is probably 110%, since even the comics went back to it after having the perfect modern Super suit -_-

The trunks only came back because Bendis wanted them back. They were planning on sticking with the Rebirth suit till then.

 

[Polux]

The trunks only came back because Bendis wanted them back. They were planning on sticking with the Rebirth suit till then.

To me is all about what the briefs (and the demand for them) represents: Fans inability to let Superman grow and evolve.

Also, the Rebirth suit looks a thousand times better than the classic one.

Come at me.

 

[_Superman_]

To me is all about what the briefs (and the demand for them) represents: Fans inability to let Superman grow and evolve.

Also, the Rebirth suit looks a thousand times better than the classic one.

Come at me.

I agree. When they took away the briefs for New 52 Superman and Man of Steel people had no problem with it. The problem they had with the New 52 suit was that it was armor more than anything. Forgetting that it was armor like what most writers did for New 52 Superman the suit wasn't that bad but I do agree the Rebirth suit was the best of both worlds. I still loved though how New 52 suit worked. It actually made sense how he could wear a suit and boots under his clothes.

 

[Polux]

I agree. When they took away the briefs for New 52 Superman and Man of Steel people had no problem with it. The problem they had with the New 52 suit was that it was armor more than anything. Forgetting that it was armor like what most writers did for New 52 Superman the suit wasn't that bad but I do agree the Rebirth suit was the best of both worlds. I still loved though how New 52 suit worked. I actually made sense how he could wear a suit and boots under his clothes.

Yeap, the explanation for the N52 nano-suit (that's what it was, right??) was the perfect one for the "suit under the clothes" trope with Superman, which once again, let's remember, until not too long ago ALL heroes wore their hero suits under their regular clothes, even Iron Man - yes, he wore his big ass armor under his business suit - but as comics became more sophisticated, creators realized how ridiculous that idea was.... except for Superman of course, because Superman must stay the same

Actually I'm not sure, did the Rebirth suit had the same explanation or no explanation at all?? I just can't wait for this desperate holing to nostalgia to disappear, now Batman has the trunks back too... Jesus...

I'm reading The Totality right now, and Jorge Jimenez is m new favorite artist and I think he's probably one of my all time favorites, and seeing Superman and Batman with those suits is just incredibly distracting to me; by the way, I don't hate them per say, I think they work perfectly in a "retro" environment (like, I just got the original Batman design in Injustice 2 mobile, and I'd love to see an animated Batman movie with that design set in 1939), but not in a modern one. In a modern setting it just looks ridiculous.

 

[_Superman_]

Yeap, the explanation for the N52 nano-suit (that's what it was, right??) was the perfect one for the "suit under the clothes" trope with Superman, which once again, let's remember, until not too long ago ALL heroes wore their hero suits under their regular clothes, even Iron Man - yes, he wore his big ass armor under his business suit - but as comics became more sophisticated, creators realized how ridiculous that idea was.... except for Superman of course, because Superman must stay the same

Actually I'm not sure, did the Rebirth suit had the same explanation or no explanation at all?? I just can't wait for this desperate holing to nostalgia to disappear, now Batman has the trunks back too... Jesus...

I'm reading The Totality right now, and Jorge Jimenez is m new favorite artist and I think he's probably one of my all time favorites, and seeing Superman and Batman with those suits is just incredibly distracting to me; by the way, I don't hate them per say, I think they work perfectly in a "retro" environment (like, I just got the original Batman design in Injustice 2 mobile, and I'd love to see an animated Batman movie with that design set in 1939), but not in a modern one. In a modern setting it just looks ridiculous.

They never explained the Rebirth suit but I did like the nano-suit thing because I loved how they allowed it to transform to regular clothes for him or to his Superman suit. Kind of like Superman Blue.

 

[Polux]

They never explained the Rebirth suit but I did like the nano-suit thing because I loved how they allowed it to transform to regular clothes for him or to his Superman. Kind of like Superman Blue.

I also never read Electric/Blue/Red Superman, even tho I'm aware of it; another one to add to the endless, ever-growing wishing list.

 

[_Superman_]

I also never read Electric/Blue/Red Superman, even tho I'm aware of it; another one to add to the endless, ever-growing wishing list.

The Superman blue arc was alright and under Morrison's JLA arc was amazing but in the end those powers or that arc would've been better if it happened to Conner showing what happens when you cross a Kryptonian and Human.

 

[heatvision38]

I agree. When they took away the briefs for New 52 Superman and Man of Steel people had no problem with it. The problem they had with the New 52 suit was that it was armor more than anything. Forgetting that it was armor like what most writers did for New 52 Superman the suit wasn't that bad but I do agree the Rebirth suit was the best of both worlds. I still loved though how New 52 suit worked. I actually made sense how he could wear a suit and boots under his clothes.

Yeah, I don't understand why they thought armor was a good idea for Superman of all characters.

 

[_Superman_]

Yeah, I don't understand why they thought armor was a good idea for Superman of all characters.

Because it wasn't armor for him. It was more like what his suit was in Man of Steel. Meaning he found a suit from Krypton that just happened to be armor but he didn't need it either.

 

[The Guard]

I think the trunks should just sort of congeal on his Supersuit. Like some sort of Krytponian fabric techno-virus. That can be part of the plot of a Superman sequel. And then when he finds the cure, it's only spread over the lower part of the suit where trunks would traditionally go, and...

Seriously, though, if the trunks show up, I full on want them explained. Like, a really good explanation that no one can ever refute in the comics or movies, ever again. He adds a zipper so he can go to the bathroom and the trunks hide the zipper or...something.

 

[Legendver2]

Imo the alien armor/suit origin is more believable to me than some of the older versions of the suit's origins, like the concept of Martha Kent actually making the suit for him. The suit is supposed to be as indestructible as him, so sure, you can explain that he has some sort of millimeter force field that grants the suit indestructibility as he himself, but what about the cape? Or the idea that the suit's strength is explained by Martha using materials from his ship to make. If it's indestructible, how did Martha even penetrate it with an Earth needle to sew something up? How did a farm lady even have the know how to manage to work with an alien material to make something like a full body suit?

 

[Legendver2]

I think the trunks should just sort of congeal on his Supersuit. Like some sort of Krytponian fabric techno-virus. That can be part of the plot of a Superman sequel. And then when he finds the cure, it's only spread over the lower part of the suit where trunks would traditionally go, and...

Seriously, though, if the trunks show up, I full on want them explained. Like, a really good explanation that no one can ever refute in the comics or movies, ever again. He adds a zipper so he can go to the bathroom and the trunks hide the zipper or...something.

If they decided "new" Batman is gonna have the trunks too, I certainly hope they go the Batman Inc route and make it a sort of groin guard instead of straight up trunks design. But Superman's groin don't need protecting, so they better get creative in it's explanation or non-explanation if they want to bring it back on live-action screens.

 

[I Am The Knight]

I'm more than ready to move on from Cavill. I just hope the next flick version kills off Lois or at least hoping that Lois doesn't get into Lucy type of situations, in which she stumbles into a fight and has to be saved by bald Supes once again.

Would be hilarious if they handled it like they handled Jimmy in BvS

 

[heatvision38]

Because it wasn't armor for him. It was more like what his suit was in Man of Steel. Meaning he found a suit from Krypton that just happened to be armor but he didn't need it either.

No, I get what they were going with, but it could have just been Kryptonian material like it was in MOS. We never saw that suit rip (at least not until Doomsday pierced it). So, I think Jim Lee and gang could have gone with the same nanotech approach (which I liked), but made it more fabric-based. I thought the idea of Superman and armor just didn't go hand-in-hand. Superman doesn't need armor, he IS the armor. And anytime he referenced the armor, I couldn't help but roll my eyes. And on top of that, most of the artists had a hard time with the complicated, plated design of the armor (not counting Jim Lee).

 

[Polux]

Best CB Superman suit ever, IMO...

Combines the classic look, while still looking slightly "alien", dynamic and majestic I just can't take the classic one with the trunks seriously anymore (at least in a modern setting).

Of course my favorite Superman suit ever is the MoS/BvS one (when it comes to the definition, something in between would be perfect for me), and something akin to the Rebirth suit would be awesome too (keeping the MoS/BvS "S", which is my favorite version so far, still being recognizable as Superman's classic symbol, but with more organic endings that make it look a little more "alien" too, IMO of course).

 

[MbJ]

Would be hilarious if they handled it like they handled Jimmy in BvS

It'd be a fun easter egg for the fans.