BvS Henry Cavill IS Superman - - - - - - - - - Part 23

[BH/HHH]

It doesn't matter though BH/HHH if it's a new Batman or not. The point is Batman has dominated the movies for the past 10 years because of Nolan. Batman as a character has had his time to shine. Why can't Superman have his time to be fleshed out and made relevant again?. Because of the Nolan movies general audiences now also love Batman, so they'll be interested no matter the version of Batman they get. No need for WB to have to prove anything with this film. The only character they have never gotten right and really need to is Superman. Give him his due.

I think it does though as it's a new interpretation. You can't underestimate how people love the previous version. Heck Superman has struggled to get out of the Chris Reeve shadow for decades. Take Spider-Man for example people really found it hard to move on from Maguire's take. You have to push the new take if you want people invested. Especially when you're casting Ben Affleck who brings his own baggage.

Although i do think they have pushed Superman to far off to the side. I'm saying sell this new Batman to the extent they are but also give Superman a push.

Take that latest trailer, WBs after a mixed reaction to trailer 2 which was actually gave Superman a shared spotlight obviously panicked and decided to use Batman as the focus in order to really sell that Batman. However, they should have had a Superman version aswell. It's things like that that are bugging me more than anything. Push this new Batman to the moon but also give us some really great Superman stuff to push aswell.

It's interesting to compare this to another versus movie Freddy vs Jason. Smaller scale of course but regardless of what people think about the film the marketing was spot on. Even though Freddy got a little more of the spotlight (given he's the more popular of the two it makes sense). They also gave Jason great promotional moments and even gave the two their own sides in TV spots and trailers etc.

 

[elgaz]

I think they're trying to bring the marketing focus right back on to Batman and Superman so it makes sense especially since Batman isn't established in the world yet and 95% of viewers are thinking, oh Bale's back again?

I think this is 100% bang on the money.

It hasn't been that long since Nolan's films. Certainly a short enough time that this could conceivably be a 4th Nolan film if you weren't informed enough to know that this is a new DC universe entirely.

I know amongst friends of mine (who aren't really major movie fans or comic fans and haven't been following development of this film as - ahem - obsessively as I have), whenever we've been out and someone mentioned the trailer, a few of them asked why the suit was different, why Affleck was playing the role instead of Bale, and so on. So I think it's a neccessary evil that they've had to focus a fair bit on Batman and Bruce Wayne in the trailers, just to show that this is not the same version as Nolan's and is an entirely new take.

As far as Superman goes, that groundwork has already been done in MOS - which audiences globally now know is not related to the Donner or Singer films in any way.

I'm hoping that this was just a marketing move for the trailers, and the final product will do justice (no pun intended) to both of the lead characters.

 

[BH/HHH]

I think this is 100% bang on the money.

It hasn't been that long since Nolan's films. Certainly a short enough time that this could conceivably be a 4th Nolan film if you weren't informed enough to know that this is a new DC universe entirely.

I know amongst friends of mine (who aren't really major movie fans or comic fans and haven't been following development of this film as - ahem - obsessively as I have), whenever we've been out and someone mentioned the trailer, a few of them asked why the suit was different, why Affleck was playing the role instead of Bale, and so on. So I think it's a neccessary evil that they've had to focus a fair bit on Batman and Bruce Wayne in the trailers, just to show that this is not the same version as Nolan's and is an entirely new take.

As far as Superman goes, that groundwork has already been done in MOS - which audiences globally now know is not related to the Donner or Singer films in any way.

I'm hoping that this was just a marketing move for the trailers, and the final product will do justice (no pun intended) to both of the lead characters.

Don't lie, we know that pun WAS intended

 

[Superchan]

Honestly why can't people just wait for the movie to come out before they start complaining about superman taking a backseat to batman? No credible source has seen or reviewed the film yet so all we've got to go on is a handful of trailers and other minor promotional material and apart from the latest trailer both characters have gotten equal attention IMO.
For me personally I don't care if batman wins the fight or if superman has less screen time, what really matters is that they give superman character, purpose and memorable screen presence and whether they do that with 20 mins of screen time or 2hrs and 20mins doesn't really matter.

I do however hope to god that they don't kill superman in this movie because we know he'll be back in JL so killing him and bringing him back would just cheapen the whole thing.

 

[BH/HHH]

Honestly why can't people just wait for the movie to come out before they start complaining about superman taking a backseat to batman? No credible source has seen or reviewed the film yet so all we've got to go on is a handful of trailers and other minor promotional material and apart from the latest trailer both characters have gotten equal attention IMO.
For me personally I don't care if batman wins the fight or if superman has less screen time, what really matters is that they give superman character, purpose and memorable screen presence and whether they do that with 20 mins of screen time or 2hrs and 20mins doesn't really matter.

I do however hope to god that they don't kill superman in this movie because we know he'll be back in JL so killing him and bringing him back would just cheapen the whole thing.

Did you bother to read the posts? We were talking about the marketing and if the lack of Superman in the marketing is justified. So if that makes us a little concerned also about the film then we also have a right to express that.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

I think most of the trailers have been balanced except the last one which was very Batman focused; other than that I have not seen other marketing that doesn't focus on both equally. I do wish there was a double final trailer one focused on Batman one focused on Superman but I still think the just relaxed footage we got was so awesome that I can't help but to be happy. There maybe little Superman but the snippets we got are very impressive and shows him as this unstoppable force.
WB still has to sell the world on this new Superman but despite the divided MOS response he comes with far less baggage than Ben Affleck. We already know Henry can play Superman well but the most worries I hear outside the internet is about Ben and his Daredevil past.

 

[Tra-El]

Did you bother to read the posts? We were talking about the marketing and if the lack of Superman in the marketing is justified. So if that makes us a little concerned also about the film then we also have a right to express that.

I think most of Superman's appeal in this movie and his stance/role are major plot points and could reveal most of the movies spoilers. They can show the Batman stuff; him driving around in the Batmobile and beating up thugs. I think Supes is going to have a defensive stance in the movie and that intrigues me.

 

[BH/HHH]

I do agree thy have Infact I even before said if you replace that opening scene of the laters trailer with a Superman one people would say it was Superman focused. But that also backs up the point a little that we've not gotten a Superman alternative, add that to the images and comments from those involved and it's been more Batman focused. Although I did say the Dark Knight was the same for the Joker as he was the new characater.

I do think though given they will be aware of the Superman concerns (people have said comments like is Superman in this Batman film?) etc. You'd think they'd give us a little bit more Superman to balance it out.

 

[BH/HHH]

I think most of Superman's appeal in this movie and his stance/role are major plot points and could reveal most of the movies spoilers. They can show the Batman stuff; him driving around in the Batmobile and beating up thugs. I think Supes is going to have a defensive stance in the movie and that intrigues me.

If that is the case then it would certainly confirm why some of the Superman stuff has felt held back. I am not overly concerned about the actual movie though even though there is a niggling doubt in my mind as to how he will come across opposed to Batman.

 

[Tra-El]

With most of Batman's marketing, Superman's name is in vein though. Bruce in Metropolis; concerns about destroying him with Alfred; etc. Though Superman isn't shown in the Batcentric trailers and what not, Superman is still appealingly present in those moments. He's what drives Bruce Bat-crazy in this film.

Now, if, say, the trailers focused on just Batman and maybe his problems with the Joker that makes it feel like two separate movies? I'd be on the fence. That's not the case. We got a titanic matchup here!

 

[Young Superman]

I hope Clark/Superman is as well Portrayed in the film as he is in the Superman DOJ prequel comic.

 

[Tra-El]

I will say, though. As a Superman fan, worrying about how he is portrayed and how he will be handled is so 2013-2014. I focused hard on the Superman stuff they decided TO show and it excited me. I see some great things in there so the paranoia left me years ago. I don't think Supes fans should have anything to worry about. To me, it shows in Henry's interviews offs-set. He seems proud and confident being Supes. That makes me feel good and at ease.

 

[Superchan]

Did you bother to read the posts? We were talking about the marketing and if the lack of Superman in the marketing is justified. So if that makes us a little concerned also about the film then we also have a right to express that.

I read your posts and I don't agree with any of it. Like I said before apart from the latest trailer the marketing has been split 50/50 so I don't know where this "lack of superman" is coming from.

I hope Clark/Superman is as well Portrayed in the film as he is in the Superman DOJ prequel comic.

Totally agree, infact I wish the comics superman was portrayed as well as the DOJ comic.

 

[godisawesome]

With most of Batman's marketing, Superman's name is in vein though. Bruce in Metropolis; concerns about destroying him with Alfred; etc. Though Superman isn't shown in the Batcentric trailers and what not, Superman is still appealingly present in those moments. He's what drives Bruce Bat-crazy in this film.

Now, if, say, the trailers focused on just Batman and maybe his problems with the Joker that makes it feel like two separate movies? I'd be on the fence. That's not the case. We got a titanic matchup here!

Now that's one thing I myself am really curious to see play out; having Superman effectively be the heavy for the entire first part of the film just because everything in MOS is so out of Batman's league. I mean, if you play this right, there should be some sequences dripping with dramatic irony because we see that Bruce's perspective seems to objectively show Supes as an alien threat but have enough genuinely human moments that we can still confirm just how far from that Clark is.

I feel as though most of his appearances early on should all be in the suit and with Cavill embracing the more assertive, professional portrayal of Post-Crisis Superman, then, after a half hour of pretty solid building on Batman's reasons for being antagonistic, we get an entire section dedicate to Daily Planet Clark doing the same to Batman.

 

[Fallen Angel]

Amy on Henry in her Marie Clare interview/shoot.

http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/blogs/...al&utm_source=***********&utm_campaign=buffer

Discussing her latest role as Lois Lane in new superhero movie Batman V Superman, Amy told us she tried very hard not to stare too much at Henry Cavill’s glorious torso. ‘In between shots it was like, “Put on a robe please, and make everyone feel less bad about themselves’” she said, adding that even her husband found it hard not to stare. ‘I had to apologise to him at one point. I’m like, “I promise I’m not that pervy.” He’s just so good to look at. My husband likes to look at him, our [five-year-old] daughter likes to look at him… we’re just a creepy family.’

 

[Tra-El]

Hah! Amy at it again. This press tour is going to be great! The personalities involved are amazing. Cavill, Affleck, Eisenberg. It has the makes of a hilarious marketing interviews.

Amy just can't help herself. She was the same way on the MoS press tour. Just salivating over Henry as Henry sits there with a scared stare on his face lol.

 

[BH/HHH]

With most of Batman's marketing, Superman's name is in vein though. Bruce in Metropolis; concerns about destroying him with Alfred; etc. Though Superman isn't shown in the Batcentric trailers and what not, Superman is still appealingly present in those moments. He's what drives Bruce Bat-crazy in this film.

Now, if, say, the trailers focused on just Batman and maybe his problems with the Joker that makes it feel like two separate movies? I'd be on the fence. That's not the case. We got a titanic matchup here!

You make good points as always.

My point about the trailers was more about the fact they never really gave us a Superman trailer and a Batman trailer, we only got the Batman one. Which is fine don't get me wrong.

But while we're on about the trailers I am one of the people who think the Comic Con trailer despite a lack of Superman dialogue (which is really where I think most of the complaints are coming from) was a split trailer and dare I say maybe even more focused on Supes.

In any case my minor complaints were more about the marketing as a whole.

I hope Clark/Superman is as well Portrayed in the film as he is in the Superman DOJ prequel comic.

Agreed

I read your posts and I don't agree with any of it. Like I said before apart from the latest trailer the marketing has been split 50/50 so I don't know where this "lack of superman" is coming from.



Totally agree, infact I wish the comics superman was portrayed as well as the DOJ comic.

That's not what you did though you tried to tell people what they should and shouldn't discuss which isn't right. Also I you read my posts you'd see that I didn't and don't agree fully with the Batman over Superman stuff entirely although I do think Superman has been pushed back on some occasions where he shouldn't have been.

 

[Eros]

Hah! Amy at it again. This press tour is going to be great! The personalities involved are amazing. Cavill, Affleck, Eisenberg. It has the makes of a hilarious marketing interviews.

Amy just can't help herself. She was the same way on the MoS press tour. Just salivating over Henry as Henry sits there with a scared stare on his face lol.

Yea ive seen recent pics of henry like maybe its been discussed becore but his hairline is really bad lol

 

[Tra-El]

Yea ive seen recent pics of henry like maybe its been discussed becore but his hairline is really bad lol

Nope. Never heard of it.

 

[The Shield]

Yea ive seen recent pics of henry like maybe its been discussed becore but his hairline is really bad lol

Man... You'd better put your helmet on.

 

[Baneis8feettall]

Yea ive seen recent pics of henry like maybe its been discussed becore but his hairline is really bad lol

We both know he can have **** on his head and all the women on world still drool over him.

 

[Eros]

We both know he can have **** on his head and all the women on world still drool over him.

Yea i know i love the guy. Just noticed how much his hairline is vanishing thats all

 

[Baneis8feettall]

Yea i know i love the guy. Just noticed how much his hairline is vanishing thats all

 

[elgaz]

Yea i know i love the guy. Just noticed how much his hairline is vanishing thats all

In fairness, he had probably the most severe haircut he's had in recent years for Sand Castle. He's had a widow's peak for some time now but when his hair is a little longer it's not too noticeable.

This was only a few months back at the Man from Uncle premiere

And then more recently

.... it's not like anyone's hair recedes that quickly in a few months. His new cut is just more harsh.

 

[Cassandra Cain]

And then more recently

.... it's not like anyone's hair recedes that quickly in a few months. His new cut is just more harsh.

Whatevs - he's still a GORGEOUS human being, hair or no hair. t: