BvS Henry Cavill IS Superman - - - - - - - - - - - Part 25

[Jaxon]

How are they going to explain Clarke's resurrection in JL? Supes is an alien so ppl will buy him coming back, but people (within the movie-verse) are going to be like wtf when they see Clarke return.....

..i hope Synder and co have thought this through, and aren't making it up as they go along.

I think what they've cleverly freed him of Clark the journalist and can now chill as solely Superman.

In terms of bringing him back, he clearly has life force still left so between that ans the birthing chamber in the scout ship that could work.

 

[BH/HHH]

It's really up in the air at this point. Is Warner Bros going to want to risk losing out on more potential money because they were too afraid to invest in another director and delay their original plans?

Like I said we'll see, they probably know their box office will be near a billion and they'll make a ton on Blu ray etc. They will obviously want JL to be more succesful and have a better critical reception so they'll either reign Zack in and put pressure on him or they'll replace him. I think the former is more likely.

 

[Tobias]

If they delay it makes sense to push JL off until 2019 and allow Flash and Aquaman films to go earlier. That way they will be known to the GA in JL.

 

[Man_of_Tomorrow]

I think what they've cleverly freed him of Clark the journalist and can now chill as solely Superman.

Thats my biggest fear and also would be the dumbest decision ever made in a superman film. Thats worse than Lois having a Superbaby she didnt know about.

 

[Man_of_Tomorrow]

Look, a scene from MOS II

 

[Man_of_Tomorrow]

If they delay it makes sense to push JL off until 2019 and allow Flash and Aquaman films to go earlier. That way they will be known to the GA in JL.

I dont think that'll happen. They were going to use JL to introduce and build up Flash and Aqua. Pushing one back pushes those. Its possible theyll delay JL, look what happened with BvS, but I dont see the others moving up.

 

[djsunyc]

i have 2 fears...

#1. JL will be injustice
#2. superman will be recreated in the birthing chamber and come out a more traditional superman that is not kal-el in the movie universe

cavill made alot of money but i hope he saves it bc this might seal his acting fate.

 

[king666]

I think what they've cleverly freed him of Clark the journalist and can now chill as solely Superman.

In terms of bringing him back, he clearly has life force still left so between that ans the birthing chamber in the scout ship that could work.

Yeah, they freed him from one of the biggest aspects of the Superman mythology, great choice.

 

[Tobias]

I dont think that'll happen. They were going to use JL to introduce and build up Flash and Aqua. Pushing one back pushes those.

I meant if Snyder is replaced. In that case they would re-do their plan is my guess. And distance themselves from Snyder's universe. A JL film would probably have no connection to the Snyder stuff but build on the WW, Flash, Aquaman films which are all supposed to be lighter All have different directors.

 

[HELLilac]

If they delay it makes sense to push JL off until 2019 and allow Flash and Aquaman films to go earlier. That way they will be known to the GA in JL.

But if those films don't deliver WB might just give up on DCCU and we might not even get JL. Superman's going to stay dead for real. What a depressing universe.

 

[Tobias]

i have 2 fears...

#1. JL will be injustice
#2. superman will be recreated in the birthing chamber and come out a more traditional superman that is not kal-el in the movie universe

cavill made alot of money but i hope he saves it bc this might seal his acting fate.

To me option 2 is called for. IMO they need to move towards a more traditional Superman and that would be the perfect way to do it.

The GA does not seem to be responding to this different Cavill/Supes version. Either in MOS or BvS.

It'd be a boost for Cavill, IMO, to see him get the chance to play a more traditional Superman. It would still be Kal El in the movie universe but one who has undergone a rebirth and be changed in part by that.

 

[HELLilac]

I meant if Snyder is replaced. In that case they would re-do their plan is my guess. And distance themselves from Snyder's universe. A JL film would probably have no connection to the Snyder stuff but build on the WW, Flash, Aquaman films which are all supposed to be lighter All have different directors.

If they use Gal as WW in JL then no way they can disassociate DCCU from Snyderverse unless they erase BvS from DCCU timeline but then they'd lose Batfleck in the process.

 

[HELLilac]

Yeah, they freed him from one of the biggest aspects of the Superman mythology, great choice.

I know right.. If Snyder directed Spider-Man he'd kill off Peter Parker.

 

[Tobias]

If they use Gal as WW in JL then there's no way the can disassociate the universe from Snyderverse unless they erase BvS from DCCU timeline but then they'd lose Batfleck in the process.

If they delay JL until 2019 and Gal and Ezra and Ben have all hd films by then all will be forgotten from the early days IMO.

 

[HELLilac]

If they delay JL until 2019 and Gal and Ezra and Ben have all hd films by then all will be forgotten from the early days IMO.

If they do that by the time they release JL nobody's going to care that much. By 2019 MCU is reaching phrase 4 and Fox's X-MEN has already formed it's own universe.

And for the sake of Cavill's Superman, I hope his next appearance as Superman on screen happens sooner than 2019.

 

[Tobias]

i have 2 fears...

#1. JL will be injustice
#2. superman will be recreated in the birthing chamber and come out a more traditional superman that is not kal-el in the movie universe

cavill made alot of money but i hope he saves it bc this might seal his acting fate.

The more I think of it, option 2 would allow Cavill to potentially re-popularize Superman again. It could be a huge boost for his career as I see it.

 

[dark_b]

some think that WB loves or loved Snyder after 300 in 2007. i agree because after Watchmen,The Owl's and Sucker Punch lost money they still let him direct MOS ( he was on a leash obviously) and BvS.

what if........what if he directs JL 1 and 2. what would that mean for WB? why would they still trust him? Because if they dont give him at least some creative freedom then why even have him direct ? they could hire a cheaper known directors who is good with visuals. The whole point of using Snyder is to use the Snyder visuals. with MOS he was holding back because he was told but with BvS he was in full 300/Watchmen mode with Larry Fong

 

[Lily Adler]

I guess Snyder made it easier for us to decide whether Clark or Superman is the real person.

 

[Vaibow]

Why couldn't they have just started Batman V Superman with Clark being Superman for 18 months, having really embracing it, loving life, sure, people are scared of him, but he has been raised preparing for this. He can handle it. He see's the good in people and it only makes him more determined.

He is fitting in quietly at the planet, knowing his secret identity is crucial in doing more good as Supes.

Have him come out to Perry, getting him on side and getting the planet on his side.

But lex is superman's real hater and Batman is unsure so he tests Superman, a series of tests to prove. The battle scene we saw would have still looked similar.

subplot, wonder woman and lex's meta files.

WW appears and tells Batman to basically grow up.

Boom, Doomsday unleashed. There you go.

They work together, superman see's bruce in a different light, as does Bruce realize clark is for good blah blah.

Basically we start JL in the exact same spot as the beginning of MOS

 

[Golgo-13]

Where did Batman rescue Martha from, and how did they know where she was being held? Was it Gotham; because i thought that Supes was hyper sentitive to either Lois and Martha being in danger………?

Granted i love the warehouse fight, it would have made much more sense for Supes to fly in a simply take her out of there. He demonstrated that he recovers from the gas pretty quickly.

 

[Logan0327]

anyone else feel this scene was so out of place in the sense that superman is made to look like a jerk

maybe if they had a scene where lois is doing some investigating and batman scares the crap out of her so she gets out of his business

then i can see superman being pissed at batman but without such a scene he looks like a major *****e

 

[Jekecy]

Where did Batman rescue Martha from, and how did they know where she was being held? Was it Gotham; because i thought that Supes was hyper sentitive to either Lois and Martha being in danger………?

Granted i love the warehouse fight, it would have made much more sense for Supes to fly in a simply take her out of there. He demonstrated that he recovers from the gas pretty quickly.

Alfred informed Bruce they had a confirmed location from the Russian's phone (in the warehouse). And yes, they were in the Gotham pier.

 

[Loki882]

How is it that Snyder can make even a montage of Superman SAVING PEOPLE look dour and depressing, geesh? I mean I don't need, or really want, full-on Chris Reeves here, but give me something.

Also how is it that he can seemingly know exactly where Lois is no matter the distance, and that she's in trouble, but cannot do that with his own mother? Or right, because then we couldn't have the big battle scene.

 

[Vaibow]

Yeah, they freed him from one of the biggest aspects of the Superman mythology, great choice.

potentially 3 superman movies and still no shirt rip, no random rescue sequence in full, no jimmy, no real theme....... spit curl...

 

[Loki882]

Or there was Jimmy, then they blew his brains out like ten seconds later. Because that's apparently Snyder's definition of "having fun with the character." Oh and for that matter, where was Steve Lombard in this movie? They made a big thing about him kind of growing up a bit in MOS during Zod's attack, and maybe having a thing starting up with Jenny the intern. And, here's just gone here.