Here We Go Again Part 3: New Welling As Superman Rumors?

[elgaz]

Hamm is only six years older than Welling. They may make Superman already established in the movie.

Looks about 15yrs older though

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

Seriously. Hamm looks like he's done his share of partying. Maybe if they're doing a DKR film and we need a banged up older Superman, but past that, just No.

 

[Zorex]

I don't get it...

E! is reporting another Sam Hamm Rumor. Please leave your comments about it (and if possible of support for Tom) below in the article: http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/b200792_jon_hamm_from_mad_man_superman.html

And here's a poll asking if fans want Sam Hamm to be Superman, one of the options is "I don't want anybody but Tom Welling". Please vote: http://www.tvguide.com/News/Jon-Hamm-Superman-1023142.aspx

They're gonna have the writer of Burton's first "Batman" be Superman?? WILD!

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[Prison Mike]

But don't you guys want a good actor?

 

[ZIPBAGS]

I still love this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NIFvrV4VP4

 

[Mike22]

But don't you guys want a good actor?

Most certainly, but unlike certain people over at the Superman section who are willing to completely sacrifice Superman's physicality, I for one certainly am not. Hamm does not look like superman in any conceivable way. Facially he suffers from what I like to call the "Routh-syndrome", meaning he has this annoyingly skinny face that just kills the superman look completely. And I'm not even gonna start with his height and age. I don' care if he's the best actor ever, he still doesn't look like the character he's supposed to portray.
While I'm at it, this Joe mang... what ever the hell his last name is looks just as bad facially but in a different kind of way.

They should look at complete unknowns and hope to find someone with both talent and appearance. It's a big world, he's out there somewhere, they just need to look harder.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I'd love a good actor, but a good actor who looks the part. Kiefer Sutherland is a great actor, doesnt mean I want him playing Superman.

BTW I'm not in love with Hamm's acting chops either. He plays the role of ******** chauvinist very well but I havent liked him in a lot of his pther roles.

 

[SuperNoob]

Even in jest, Hamm makes a really good Luthor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwwpXIiSk2k

 

[Karelia]

I can't see Hamm as Superman, but more so Lex Luthor.

 

[SrsBsns]

Most certainly, but unlike certain people over at the Superman section who are willing to completely sacrifice Superman's physicality, I for one certainly am not. Hamm does not look like superman in any conceivable way. Facially he suffers from what I like to call the "Routh-syndrome", meaning he has this annoyingly skinny face that just kills the superman look completely. And I'm not even gonna start with his height and age. I don' care if he's the best actor ever, he still doesn't look like the character he's supposed to portray.
While I'm at it, this Joe mang... what ever the hell his last name is looks just as bad facially but in a different kind of way.

They should look at complete unknowns and hope to find someone with both talent and appearance. It's a big world, he's out there somewhere, they just need to look harder.

Dude, are you kidding me? That's the EXACT reason I can hardly stand going to that forum. It's hilariously pathetic how many people over there will throw away a certain actors candidacy for the role because he's ONLY 6'1. Do you really think that Nolan or any casting director is going to say, "Well, he looks great for the part and sure can act BUT, he's 6'1 and not 6'3 like issue 590 states he is!"

 

[Mike22]

Dude, are you kidding me? That's the EXACT reason I can hardly stand going to that forum. It's hiluperman is 50riously pathetic how many people over there will throw away a certain actors candidacy for the role because he's ONLY 6'1. Do you really think that Nolan or any casting director is going to say, "Well, he looks great for the part and sure can act BUT, he's 6'1 and not 6'3 like issue 590 states he is!"

I said "certain" people, not everyone. There's really quite the difference.
I've seen people suggest that we move away from the superman look altogether because apparently to some over there it's perfectly acceptable that the physical attributes aren't there as long as the guy knows how to act. This to me is just about the craziest **** I can ever hear from fellow superman fans. Acting ability is a must, but so is the look.
Superman is 50% appearance, has always been, will always be. The example you present is something that pisses me off as well. 6'1 is a perfectly acceptable height. I understand your frustration because I've had talks with them before about this, especially in regards to Henry Cavill who I felt was a terrific choice for the character, but was quickly shot down by some because they felt 6'1 was to short.
Another example is the casting choices some present, like this Joe what's-his-name. It personally hurts my eyes just looking at a picture of the guy, much less see him as our new Superman.

 

[triplet]

Dude, are you kidding me? That's the EXACT reason I can hardly stand going to that forum. It's hilariously pathetic how many people over there will throw away a certain actors candidacy for the role because he's ONLY 6'1. Do you really think that Nolan or any casting director is going to say, "Well, he looks great for the part and sure can act BUT, he's 6'1 and not 6'3 like issue 590 states he is!"

It's more than his height.

He just doesn't look like Superman to me.

Superman has always been drawn with a square jaw and thick black (or dark) hair.

Hamm just doesn't look like Superman to me, so I will agree with that 100%.

He may be a fine actor, but if his physicality can't sell me on him being the man of steel, there is only so far his acting can take him.

You can't act taller.

One of the main problems I had with Routh was that he wasn't physically imposing. He's 6'3, I think, but far too skinny when SR was shot to sell me on him being Supes.

One thing that Tom has that so few other actors do, physically, is that he's freakin' huge. His height isn't exactly known, he's sometimes reported as being 6'3" and sometimes 6'5", but he's got muscles and bulk and that sqaure jaw.

Physically: he's perfect as is, the fact that he can act and has been already playing Clark Kent for now ten seasons is just icing.

I don't know if it's realistic that Tom get the part at this point, but they will have to look harder if Jon Hamm is the best they can come up with.

 

[SrsBsns]

It's more than his height.

He just doesn't look like Superman to me.

Superman has always been drawn with a square jaw and thick black (or dark) hair.

Hamm just doesn't look like Superman to me, so I will agree with that 100%.

He may be a fine actor, but if his physicality can't sell me on him being the man of steel, there is only so far his acting can take him.

You can't act taller.

One of the main problems I had with Routh was that he wasn't physically imposing. He's 6'3, I think, but far too skinny when SR was shot to sell me on him being Supes.

One thing that Tom has that so few other actors do, physically, is that he's freakin' huge. His height isn't exactly known, he's sometimes reported as being 6'3" and sometimes 6'5", but he's got muscles and bulk and that sqaure jaw.

Physically: he's perfect as is, the fact that he can act and has been already playing Clark Kent for now ten seasons is just icing.

I don't know if it's realistic that Tom get the part at this point, but they will have to look harder if Jon Hamm is the best they can come up with.

First off, I completely agree with you about TW. It's not a secret that I 100% back him for the new movie, as unlikely as it may be. As for Hamm, I don't want him for the role, never have. He looks much older than he really is and whoever the next Man of Steel is needs to be able to play the role for at least a sequel or two (assuming this isn't a one shot deal) without looking like an old man by the end.

Also, didn't Routh wearing lifts or something to that extent? See, I do understand people not wanting someone who's considered short next Superman (anything below 6 foot is too short) but, then again, people were freaking out in 2004 when Routh was cast because he had brown eyes. We know they were digitally altered to be blue and wham, problem solved. If they find someone who is their man for sure and is about 6 foot or so, they WILL find a way to make him looker taller/intimidating. That's the factor Routh ultimately failed to achieve: intimidation. I never bought for a second he was strong enough to fight Darkseid or Doomsday.

Just get me a guy who can act, facially looks the role, and can fool me into believing he and Clark Kent are two different people and we're gold.

 

[triplet]

First off, I completely agree with you about TW. It's not a secret that I 100% back him for the new movie, as unlikely as it may be. As for Hamm, I don't want him for the role, never have. He looks much older than he really is and whoever the next Man of Steel is needs to be able to play the role for at least a sequel or two (assuming this isn't a one shot deal) without looking like an old man by the end.

Also, didn't Routh wearing lifts or something to that extent? See, I do understand people not wanting someone who's considered short next Superman (anything below 6 foot is too short) but, then again, people were freaking out in 2004 when Routh was cast because he had brown eyes. We know they were digitally altered to be blue and wham, problem solved. If they find someone who is their man for sure and is about 6 foot or so, they WILL find a way to make him looker taller/intimidating. That's the factor Routh ultimately failed to achieve: intimidation. I never bought for a second he was strong enough to fight Darkseid or Doomsday.

Just get me a guy who can act, facially looks the role, and can fool me into believing he and Clark Kent are two different people and we're gold.

Yeah, I think Routh wore lifts but I thought that mostly because Lois' husband/boyfriend was taller than him as was Perry. (Frank Langella is like 6'6"... the main reason I thought he was a terrible choice for Perry.)

But no: Routh wasn't physically imposing.

You need to have a big guy who's broad and beefy. Skinny and short ain't going to cut it. There's only so much having him wear lifts, stand on boxes or being shot from low-angles can do for you.

Hamm is both skinny and short, so no: he's probably not the best guy for the job.

 

[hurley711]

It's more than his height.

He just doesn't look like Superman to me.

Superman has always been drawn with a square jaw and thick black (or dark) hair.

Hamm just doesn't look like Superman to me, so I will agree with that 100%.

He may be a fine actor, but if his physicality can't sell me on him being the man of steel, there is only so far his acting can take him.

You can't act taller.

One of the main problems I had with Routh was that he wasn't physically imposing. He's 6'3, I think, but far too skinny when SR was shot to sell me on him being Supes.

One thing that Tom has that so few other actors do, physically, is that he's freakin' huge. His height isn't exactly known, he's sometimes reported as being 6'3" and sometimes 6'5", but he's got muscles and bulk and that sqaure jaw.

Physically: he's perfect as is, the fact that he can act and has been already playing Clark Kent for now ten seasons is just icing.

I don't know if it's realistic that Tom get the part at this point, but they will have to look harder if Jon Hamm is the best they can come up with.

Tom Welling can act? Where are all those lead roles then? The Fog? BOMB............Cheaper by the dozen?? YIKES

 

[triplet]

Tom Welling can act? Where are all those lead roles then? The Fog? BOMB............Cheaper by the dozen?? YIKES

Lead roles of quality films require time that Tom hasn't had.

Just because he had **** to work with on The Fog (I read the original script, the hack director ruined what could have been a good film), doesn't mean he can't act.

You been watching the last few seasons? Tom has turned in some stellar performances on Smallville.

As for Cheaper By the Dozen films Tom did that only because Steve Martin was involved. He wasn't a lead in that because he only had a few weeks free to film the movies, which is why he was barely in the second one.

He can act, he just needs the time and a better script and better directors to work with and he'll be fine.

 

[Johnny]

Yeah, he's no Pacino or DeNiro but he is in no shape or form a bad actor. I think he has a future in producing and directing, though. He said many times that he enjoys the behind the scenes work a lot. Now he's running his own show, I think that's where he's going.

 

[ZIPBAGS]

Tom Welling can act? Where are all those lead roles then? The Fog? BOMB............Cheaper by the dozen?? YIKES

No offense..But, even A-list actors do crap movies. And when Tom Hanks was doing Bosom Buddies did you ever think he would win multiple best actor Oscars?? They guy has devoted 9 plus years on a tv series. He hasn't had time to do movies. Going back to Hanks. He didn't even star in movies until a year or so after his tv series ended.

 

[elgaz]

Tom gets a hard time sometimes for his acting on the show. You have to remember he basically went from being a model and labourer to starring in the lead role in a major TV series. I'd be the first to admit his acting was a bit shaky in the first couple of seasons, but he improved massively and has been fantastic in the last few series. And that's with having to learn scripts whilst also serving as a producer on Smallville and Hellcats.

Part of the problem has also been the Smallville scripts and the style in which the actors are directed on the show. Even some of the best actors in the world come off as flaky in Smallville when they're given Dawson's Creek-style lines. For example, I always thought Michael Shanks acting was 110% solid in Stargate, but when he played Hawkman (as awesome as it was), bits of it were just cheesy ..... and that was down to how it was written, he could only work with what he had.

I'd love to see Tom in even one episode of a more normally written show (CSi, Fringe, etc) just to see how he would do.

 

[Mike22]

Tom gets a hard time sometimes for his acting on the show. You have to remember he basically went from being a model and labourer to starring in the lead role in a major TV series. I'd be the first to admit his acting was a bit shaky in the first couple of seasons, but he improved massively and has been fantastic in the last few series. And that's with having to learn scripts whilst also serving as a producer on Smallville and Hellcats.

Part of the problem has also been the Smallville scripts and the style in which the actors are directed on the show. Even some of the best actors in the world come off as flaky in Smallville when they're given Dawson's Creek-style lines. For example, I always thought Michael Shanks acting was 110% solid in Stargate, but when he played Hawkman (as awesome as it was), bits of it were just cheesy ..... and that was down to how it was written, he could only work with what he had.

I'd love to see Tom in even one episode of a more normally written show (CSi, Fringe, etc) just to see how he would do.

I've often wondered this myself.

 

[Antonello Blueberry]

While doing E.R. George Clooney was able to star in a few movies, like "From dusk till dawn", "One fine day", "Batman and Robin" and "The Peacemaker".

 

[elgaz]

Yeah but George Clooney wasn't a producer or the main star, ER had an ensemble cast. Tom is needed in pretty much every Smallville episode so time isn't on his side.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

^ In additon to that, ER was also shot in LA so Clooney was able to go to those sets pretty quickly.

As we've explained probably a thousand times before Welling is limited in movie roles to doing things like CBTD that can be shot during SV's 10 week summer hiatus or things like the Fog that are being shot in Vancouver.

 

[triplet]

While doing E.R. George Clooney was able to star in a few movies, like "From dusk till dawn", "One fine day", "Batman and Robin" and "The Peacemaker".

He wasn't the primary lead of the show and he wasn't necessarily in every episode. Tom has episodes that give him a break and he has less screen time, but he's been in every single episode of the series.

You can't say that about George Clooney and ER.

Yeah but George Clooney wasn't a producer or the main star, ER had an ensemble cast. Tom is needed in pretty much every Smallville episode so time isn't on his side.

^ In additon to that, ER was also shot in LA so Clooney was able to go to those sets pretty quickly.

As we've explained probably a thousand times before Welling is limited in movie roles to doing things like CBTD that can be shot during SV's 10 week summer hiatus or things like the Fog that are being shot in Vancouver.

Exactly.

 

[Karelia]

Maybe one of the candidates for the Superman movie is a Welling fan... t: