"Here We Go Again" Part 4: New Welling As Superman Rumors?

[RakuMon]

Here's how I look at it:

The two-hour series finale in May will be our Superman movie. Like I said earlier, they've already given us most of those iconic moments that I've always wanted to see Welling and Durance deliver. If they can come correct and really make the finale a true "Superman" movie, then my wishes will have been granted, and we'd get an honest to goodness Welling as Superman movie. Heck, even an extended director's cut for the blu-ray maybe!

I'm going to see if I can get a hold of Souders or Peterson in the next few weeks to ask them some questions. Wish me luck!

 

[vantheman77]

Are they going to combine episodes 21 and 22 to become a 2-hour movie like Absolute Justice? Will they air episodes 21 and 22 on the same night seperately? Or will episode 22 itself be 2 hours?

 

[Prison Mike]

Are they going to combine episodes 21 and 22 to become a 2-hour movie like Absolute Justice? Will they air episodes 21 and 22 on the same night seperately? Or will episode 22 itself be 2 hours?

I hope it's the latter.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

They did?



Not that those two have had any relevance to the show in almost 3 years, but bad-mouthing WB Features while you're still employed by WB probably isnt the greatest idea, although the only things I can ever remember them saying about Singer and Co was that they were pretty cool and open to a lot of the ideas the show was going to do back in Season 5 that didnt run afoul of what the film was doing.



I've never seen any interview where anything remotely close to any of that was said. Please, post a link.

I haven't kept the link as they did tons of interviews that I read in the past months and it was impossible for me to keep track of all of them. Maybe someone in here kept the link as there were others discussing this subject in here when that interview came out.
I remember another person saying they said they could never do a Superman suit on their budget with the standards they set for the show, so that may be another reason why they didn't do it. But they did announce the suit from SR at the comic con like it was something extraordinary and with a glow in their eyes that made me start questioning who was worse, them for thinking that that suit is something great or the fans who actually applauded basically validating their choice.
Warner Bros. has a choice to make in the coming months that it's gonna be a real hard one. Do they allow Tom to wear the suit or not.
If they do, it's just so Tom's fans will keep quiet about their dissatisfaction with the casting.
If they do let him, it will probably be the SR's suit. Not the way I want to see the show end after 10 years, to see Tom wearing that freakin' thing.

Common sense says they probably won't let him wear. I mean, let's be reasonable here and think business wise: do we really expect WB Features, the ones that kept Bruce Wayne away from SV because they thought ppl would be confused (even when they already had a successful reboot with 2 movies) to allow Tom Welling to wear (let's suppose) a newly made Superman suit to end the show when they know that image will be publicized WORLDWIDE by fans over the internet plus the ones who will actually see it, and allow that image (that I have no doubt will 10x better than the guy they've chosen) to be compared against the guy they're gonna throw millions of dollars in marketing (like they did with Routh) to chove down our throats as THE Superman and erase Welling from the hearts and minds of fans ?
Do we really think they're so altruistic and human that they're gonna allow that so we can have the ending we deserve and sacrifice an even bigger backlash and another possible faillyre ?
Given it's Warner Bros. - I seriously doubt it.
The way I see it (because if we'll see Tom in the suit it will be the SR one) anyway they choose, we loose.
On a side note, if we're to believe a current report, Snyder and Warner had nothing to do with the casting decision, it was all Nolan (which makes sense given the choice). It's sad that they really think this guy is the almighty God of movies.

 

[SpideyVille]

I haven't kept the link as they did tons of interviews that I read in the past months and it was impossible for me to keep track of all of them. Maybe someone in here kept the link as there were others discussing this subject in here when that interview came out.
I remember another person saying they said they could never do a Superman suit on their budget with the standards they set for the show, so that may be another reason why they didn't do it. But they did announce the suit from SR at the comic con like it was something extraordinary and with a glow in their eyes that made me start questioning who was worse, them for thinking that that suit is something great or the fans who actually applauded basically validating their choice.
Warner Bros. has a choice to make in the coming months that it's gonna be a real hard one. Do they allow Tom to wear the suit or not.
If they do, it's just so Tom's fans will keep quiet about their dissatisfaction with the casting.
If they do let him, it will probably be the SR's suit. Not the way I want to see the show end after 10 years, to see Tom wearing that freakin' thing.

Common sense says they probably won't let him wear. I mean, let's be reasonable here and think business wise: do we really expect WB Features, the ones that kept Bruce Wayne away from SV because they thought ppl would be confused (even when they already had a successful reboot with 2 movies) to allow Tom Welling to wear (let's suppose) a newly made Superman suit to end the show when they know that image will be publicized WORLDWIDE by fans over the internet plus the ones who will actually see it, and allow that image (that I have no doubt will 10x better than the guy they've chosen) to be compared against the guy they're gonna throw millions of dollars in marketing (like they did with Routh) to chove down our throats as THE Superman and erase Welling from the hearts and minds of fans ?
Do we really think they're so altruistic and human that they're gonna allow that so we can have the ending we deserve and sacrifice an even bigger backlash and another possible faillyre ?
Given it's Warner Bros. - I seriously doubt it.
The way I see it (because if we'll see Tom in the suit it will be the SR one) anyway they choose, we loose.
On a side note, if we're to believe a current report, Snyder and Warner had nothing to do with the casting decision, it was all Nolan (which makes sense given the choice). It's sad that they really think this guy is the almighty God of movies.

Are you talking about this part from Comic-Con?

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[vantheman77]

They may not have a choice. If TW does wear the suit, it will most likely be the SR suit in the Fortress. Otherwise, why show it in this season? However, I hope they do some tweaks and modifications so that it's tailor-made for TW. I'd rather he wears the SR suit than not wearing the suit at all. As long as he wears the suit, whether SR or another version, I'll be satisfied with the show's ending.

I find laughable that they didn't want to create a Superman suit and yet they were able to do Dr. Fate so I don't see what the problem is. If they end up creating the full-fledged Supergirl suit, then I have to question their priorities.

 

[zerohour films]

Here's the interview with Brian Peterson that I believe is the one in question:

Whose decision was it to use the Brandon Routh costume for Smallville?

We really like that even though our show has its own world, we always try to dovetail it and touch on the [other] mythology, so we thought it would be great to use one of those suits. The Christopher Reeve suit just didn't quite fit with our world as well when DC offered it to us, so the Warner Bros. Museum let use the Brandon Routh suit.

Do you know if the last scene of the series will have Clark in the costume, as many have imagined?

The best thing that I can say is that I'm hoping your imagination was right.

LINK: http://www.kryptonsite.com/cc10-brianpeterson.htm

Note that they don't definitively say this is the suit that Tom will be wearing, but I am sure though what they do use will be very similar. I just say that because we have had such a good look at the SR suit at this point....who really knows though.

 

[vantheman77]

I guess you can't blame them for using the SR suit over the Chris Reeve suit because it actually does fit in the SV world more despite our feelings about it. Basically if there are restrictions relating to TW wearing the suit, he'd most likely wear the SR suit. I just hope they use better red boots.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Are you talking about this part from Comic-Con?

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Yeah, Tom's face is priceless, you can tell he didn't expect to hear the suit was the SR suit. He goes from smiling to showing signs of being worried.

 

[SpideyVille]

Yeah, Tom's face is priceless, you can tell he didn't expect to hear the suit was the SR suit. He goes from smiling to showing signs of being worried.

It's both funny and sad. Funny to see his reaction to it, yet sad because it was obvious that the producers didn't even inform him about the decision to use any kind of suit at all.

On a side note, they dodged the question as usual, which makes it even more probable that we won't see him in the suit.

 

[Johnny]

Well whatever happens I just hope that the finale is great. I'm a little worried that Kara's probably gonna be in it though. I always liked her, but I want Clark to be the only "super" person in it.

 

[vantheman77]

If TW doesn't wear the suit in the series finale, it's most likely the following - the restrictions from the new Superman movie or he'd refuse to wear the SR suit. I've said this before, but did they really expect TW to wear the SR suit?

When the series finale airs, I'm going to watch it with Absolute Justice to see what it feels like as SV movies.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

Here's the interview with Brian Peterson that I believe is the one in question:



LINK: http://www.kryptonsite.com/cc10-brianpeterson.htm

Note that they don't definitively say this is the suit that Tom will be wearing, but I am sure though what they do use will be very similar. I just say that because we have had such a good look at the SR suit at this point....who really knows though.

I read this interview as well but this is NOT the interview I mentioned. The one I mentioned they blantantly ask if they (the producers) thought of making their own suit and they say they thought for a while but decided it was better to use the SR suit.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

It's both funny and sad. Funny to see his reaction to it, yet sad because it was obvious that the producers didn't even inform him about the decision to use any kind of suit at all.

On a side note, they dodged the question as usual, which makes it even more probable that we won't see him in the suit.

I think it wasn't so much the suit at all but that it was THAT suit.
I think Tom is aware of how many ppl hated that movie, hell we wouldn't be getting a reboot if that movie had really good feeback or had been a huge blockbuster.
Also it could remind him of what may (or as the haters would say - may not have happaned) have happaned when at the people's choice awards he said he had signed for a secret project that he couldn't talk about (that we know couldnt be The Fog) and then 2 or 3 days later after those news hit worldwide with speculation that it was SR, Warner Bros. quickly announced Routh.
It's been speculated that they had a verbal agreement with Tom (not ever telling him that it was just a guarantee in case Singer didn't found his unknown) for him to star in the movie but didn't count on him almost spilling the beans at the PCA.
So he can have bad feelings regarding what that suit & movie remind him.

 

[Mike22]

I told people from day one, that suit is not just a prop, it's more or less the design they're going with. I know they can't have Welling wear that because of size issues, but the one they will make, will be very similar. As in the same shield and belt, which pretty much makes it the same abomination from SR. Sure they can change the neckline a bit and raise the briefs, but at the end of the day it'll still be "that" suit.

I've made my piece with the shield being used, but it's not easy to accept the other parts of that costume, that is if Welling even wears it at all.

 

[vantheman77]

Maybe we might see the creation of another Superman suit in the next several episodes. However, if TW wears the SR suit they need to make some modifications to fit his size. Like I said, better for him to wear a modified SR suit than not wearing the suit at all.

 

[Mike22]

I hope so, but that begs the question of why showing the SR suit to begin with?
Surely it couldn't have been to hard to get a hold of some blue spandex put shield on it with the cape wrapped around it like they showed us in the premiere? No no, the idea of it being a prop is nothing more than some fans having a hard time accepting they chose that particular suit. It just seems highly unlikely that they'll actually show Clark make a new one for no reason when he has one available to him in the fortress.
Those damn producers, why couldn't they just make their own thing, I mean they've done everything else their own way, but not this?

Of course all of this may be for nothing because I don't think we'll see Welling wear for more than a minute tops, if even that.

 

[Bruce_Wayne29]

and they'll do nothing about if us fans remain quiet about it. Those oof you who hate that suit as much as I do, tweet the producers about. We can still do something about that. The finale will only be shot in April.

 

[musclesforsupes]

I have to say with everyone else its been fun! Stinks about Tom but 10 seasons of Smallville and knowing Tom will be Superman in a episode or two is fine by me

 

[Last Kryptonian]

I told people from day one, that suit is not just a prop, it's more or less the design they're going with. I know they can't have Welling wear that because of size issues, but the one they will make, will be very similar. As in the same shield and belt, which pretty much makes it the same abomination from SR. Sure they can change the neckline a bit and raise the briefs, but at the end of the day it'll still be "that" suit.

I've made my piece with the shield being used, but it's not easy to accept the other parts of that costume, that is if Welling even wears it at all.

Besides the red the main problem with the suit was the guy under it in Brandon Routh who was mis cast.

The suit will look just fine on Tom because he is this generations Superman!

 

[Prison Mike]

and they'll do nothing about if us fans remain quiet about it. Those oof you who hate that suit as much as I do, tweet the producers about. We can still do something about that. The finale will only be shot in April.

They wrap up shooting in March. Personally, I'm glad they're going with the SR suit. With the budget that Smallville has, any suit they make will not do it justice.

 

[Bhoward]

Is it too much to ask that after TDub so knocks it out of the park in the finale that Snyder, Nolan and the WB fire Cavill and hire Welling. I'm just saying

 

[Gmanofsteel]

And as amusing aside, some of the "Routh Extremists" are pitching a literal **** fit over in the Superman forums, and C. Lee is handing out probationary bans like they're breath mints.

I mean seriously, that writing's been on the wall for many months, this can't have seriously caught them by surprise?

Oh well, nice to see the "Wellingites" ended up being the realists and civil, and I see that most of the long timers here seem to be cool with Cavill, which pleases me to no end. I think he'll do well with the role and carry on the legacy that Tom's had solely on his broad shoulders for the past decade.

I agree completely. I have to admit Cavill's casting has me nostalgic about the good ol casting wars days, back when it was Welling, Cavill, ect. Over the last few years he's been my second choice behind Welling. In the end I think the Wellingites will get what we have always wanted by Smallville's end.

 

[RakuMon]

I seem to recall the costume designer of SR saying that they had to alter the final suit in the movie because it was originally designed for a much bigger actor. I need to peruse the Bonus Features on the SR DVD again, but I remember speculating with Pat and the others if this was a clue that Welling had indeed tested for the movie (remember the brouhaha of August 2004?)

Anyway, maybe they held on to the original suit Welling tested in? Here's hoping because I'm almost certain the Smallville crew is NOT redesigning a new Superman costume for the show.

 

[vantheman77]

You have a point that whatever suit they make may not turn out good. That's part of the reason they bought the SR suit. Seeing TW in the SR suit will make me wish they it should have been him in Superman Returns. It's like they're trying to erase that movie.