Transformers How much can you they change??

[cryptic name]

im not your average 17 year old boy....

...spider-man?

 

[big D Evil]

If she were topless, but I guess Bay frowns on that type of thing.

We knew he was a crummy director and now your telling us he doesn't even like GIRLS?!?!?

 

[xwolverine2]

are you saying thats a bad thing?

 

[xwolverine2]

...spider-man?

please.........toby maguire is like 30... and in high school....lol

 

[roach]

please.........toby maguire is like 30... and in high school....lol

ahhh that's why he couldnt develop his own webbing

 

[xwolverine2]

why do they always make highschool kids in movies like super old?

seriously.... whenever i watch one of those highschool movies theres like jennifer hewgtits thats like 40 years old,tobey maguire and kirsten dunst are in their 50s.......

how old is megan fox?....like 21?

 

[CFlash]

why do they always make highschool kids in movies like super old?

seriously.... whenever i watch one of those highschool movies theres like jennifer hewgtits thats like 40 years old,tobey maguire and kirsten dunst are in their 50s.......

how old is megan fox?....like 21?

I don't think they have much faith in 17 year-olds. Something about their frontal lobes of their brains not being completely developed which is why they're considered dumb. I'm not saying i believe it, just stating a possibility.

 

[Boiiinng]

why do they always make highschool kids in movies like super old?

They cast the look and acting experience level, not the age.

 

[Tad Fatherton]

i can't believe they're using cgi instead of robots to make a robot movie. tards

 

[Hotwire]

i can't believe they're using cgi instead of robots to make a robot movie. tards

Yeah, building real robots that can do what the script would call for, that would be WAY cheaper. Dee, dee, dee!

 

[Boiiinng]

Yeah, building real robots that can do what the script would call for, that would be WAY cheaper. Dee, dee, dee!

Well, it would. CG actually drives the cost up big time. They wouldn't use full-size maquettes, mind you, but they could use scale-models. It just wouldn't look real enough to today's HD audience. That's why the first Underworld only cost $22 million, most of the werewolves were men in suits. Then in Underworld Evolution, they had to use a lot of CG for some scenes, and it ended up costing $50-$60 million.

 

[CFlash]

Well, it would. CG actually drives the cost up big time. They wouldn't use full-size maquettes, mind you, but they could use scale-models. It just wouldn't look real enough to today's HD audience. That's why the first Underworld only cost $22 million, most of the werewolves were men in suits. Then in Underworld Evolution, they had to use a lot of CG for some scenes, and it ended up costing $50-$60 million.

And yet it only made $11 mil than its predecessor. An 11% gain in box office receipts for a 100% increase in production budget. Doesn't sound like it was a wise investment. BTW, I fell asleep watching it on DVD (long day). Was it any good? It looked bad. Should I give it another chance?

[edit]
P.S.
BTW, I'm not saying TF should be marionnettes!!! lol. Just making an observation. Shoddy CGI can often ruin a movie whereas well-done men in suits can always look believable (esp for werewolf movies). When you go CGI... you gotta be prepared to do it right!

This is one area I'm very confident in Bay's and crew's abilities. It's also very encouraging that they have a real BB for those scenes where CGI might look out-of-place. The guy definately knows what he's doing.

 

[bunk]

And yet it only made $11 mil than its predecessor. An 11% gain in box office receipts for a 100% increase in production budget. Doesn't sound like it was a wise investment. BTW, I fell asleep watching it on DVD (long day). Was it any good? It looked bad. Should I give it another chance?

[edit]
P.S.
BTW, I'm not saying TF should be marionnettes!!! lol. Just making an observation. Shoddy CGI can often ruin a movie whereas well-done men in suits can always look believable (esp for werewolf movies). When you go CGI... you gotta be prepared to do it right!

This is one area I'm very confident in Bay's and crew's abilities. It's also very encouraging that they have a real BB for those scenes where CGI might look out-of-place. The guy definately knows what he's doing.

Underworld 2 was pretty weak, though the sex scene with Kate Beckinsale is a must see.

CG for this movie is a must, come on we're talkin ILM here.

 

[xwolverine2]

non-CGI robots?...are you ****ing kidding me?!?

even stan winston would laugh at your asses

 

[cryptic name]

they could do some stuff with large scale animatronix and maybe, if the designs allowed for it, they could get away with some shots being men in suits.

it would be way too expensive to import real transformers...dumbass

 

[xwolverine2]

men in suits.........HA!...

yeah im the dumbass

 

[ragdus]

if you think CGI is expensive, try building several versions each of, what, nine or ten 20 ft+ tall functioning robots?


LOL

 

[DOG LIPS]

i refuse to see a movie that A) has michael bay directing. omg he sucks the big dick!!! LOLOLOL!!!!! and B) uses computer graphics in place of robots! i mean, come on, thats like having a dog play a cat!!!!! ITS JUST STUPID!!!!!!
seriously, whats next? is michael bay going change energon into happy thoughts? LOL

Yeah... I think you need some time off, it's getting real tedious to read your trollish posts now.

 

[xwolverine2]

if you think CGI is expensive, try building several versions each of, what, nine or ten 20 ft+ tall functioning robots?


LOL

on top of that they have to move "realistically"...... which is impossible.

DOG LIPS- i love you a bit more now

 

[Hotwire]

Men in suits??? Then it would look like Power Rangers. Just cuz it worked in the old Gozilla flicks, doesn't mean itwill work here. And animatronics??? Harryhausen may have been a genius in his time, but that just won't fly anymore.

 

[Jimmy, GL]

they could do some stuff with large scale animatronix and maybe, if the designs allowed for it, they could get away with some shots being men in suits.

it would be way too expensive to import real transformers...dumbass

Ah I can see it now.

Sam: Super Ultra pumpernickel Bumblebee! Transuh-Fohma (bad japanese impression)

BB: ._. Wtf are you talking about?

 

[The Guard]

Then what is the plot of Transformers, oh great one? Tell us, and we'll tell you if you're wrong or not. And I want your words, not something copied from IMDb.

Well, if we're talking about the movie...two warring factions of giant, shapechanging robots arrive on earth seeking the Allspark, which will turn the tide in their centuries-old war for their home planet of Cybertron. The Autobots, led by Optimus Prime, seek to prevent the Decepticons from obtaining the Allspark first and using it to wreak havoc, both on Earth and on Cybertron. Circumstances force the Autobots to ally with human beings, where a friendship develops between Bumblebee and Sam/Spike, with both humans and robots showing that they are more than meets the eye.

So, because it hasn't been used much in previous Transformers stories, it's OK in the movie? How about it's cliche FOR movies to still use that, regardless of the plot?

Seems to be written ok, so yes, it's ok in the movie. It's cliche for movies to use teen romance? So what? What's your point? That a movie is using something that has been used before? EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN HAS BEEN DONE. Would you rather have a bad-ass loner teen? Oh...that's been done to death too. How about a scientist for the Autobots to ally with? Oh...it's been done to death, too. What's that...you say that everything under the sun has been done already?

it's a pity that the story could have been so rich and have a strong feeling of myth behind it. but what came out was a pretty generic action story with the transformers plugged in. and that is not not really a bash on the script, i like it for what it is and plan on being entertained as hell next fourth as july. i just think there could have been more to it.

So it's generic, and Transformers mythology is what makes it not generic. Just like the presence of Batman's mythology in BATMAN BEGINS made a fairly generic story fresh. So what? When was the last action movie you all saw that had giant robots sneaking around in a backyard? As for thinking there could have been more...probably, but like someone else said...99 percent of all movies. And as people keep pointing out...we haven't seen the movie yet.

 

[Avangarde]

Seems to be written ok, so yes, it's ok in the movie. It's cliche for movies to use teen romance? So what? What's your point? That a movie is using something that has been used before? EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN HAS BEEN DONE. Would you rather have a bad-ass loner teen? Oh...that's been done to death too. How about a scientist for the Autobots to ally with? Oh...it's been done to death, too. What's that...you say that everything under the sun has been done already?

Does it even have to have humans at all? I mean really, make it a transformers only movie on Cybertron, I cant see why that wouldn't work. The TF's have emotions, characteristics, and mannerisms. The human element is not that important, you just need to read the comics to see that. Yes yes I know it would probably make heaps more money with the TF's featured on earth with humans, but plot wise a TF only movie could work.

 

[bunk]

Does it even have to have humans at all? I mean really, make it a transformers only movie on Cybertron, I cant see why that wouldn't work. The TF's have emotions, characteristics, and mannerisms. The human element is not that important, you just need to read the comics to see that. Yes yes I know it would probably make heaps more money with the TF's featured on earth with humans, but plot wise a TF only movie could work.

Maybe if Pixar made it.

 

[nosebleed.]

Maybe if Pixar made it.

With Tom Hanks as Optimus and Tim Allen as Megatron.