The Dark Knight How should be the Batmobile for The Dark Knight?

[The Only Woj]

it'll stay the same. remember, Nolan scrapped the initial idea that the Tumbler was going to explode at the end of the movie (that's how Batman takes out the train). however, he loved it so much that he made the change to keep it alive. plus, how else is batman getting to and from the cave? without a car that can jump like that, he's out of luck.

 

[E-Mack]

Well I'm sure they will be creative enough to make more than one entrance to the cave.

 

[Cyrusbales]

as long as we don't start getting boats and bikes and hangliders and stuff, I think it'll be OK.

 

[Savage]

It doesn't even have to be sleak or that much different. Add fins and a front (someone there decided "f**k it. It has a back and middle already. It doesn't need a front." I guess) and it's good. Maybe make it a little smoother but not lamborgini sleak.

 

[StorminNorman]

Keep it the same, dont change a single thing.

 

[tinister]

Drawing attention is actually kind of the point. That's why it's such a big, loud, and obnoxious beast. Always has been. It lets people know that the Batman is coming and they better stop what they're doing and scatter...The best comparison I can think of is kind of a "Big Brother is watching" vibe when he patrols the streets in the Batmobile. The damn thing should look like a creature, in and of itself. Like a mutated car (which was why I liked Burton's the best).

With the Tumbler, it's already scary but someone can make this thing look alive. Lights/eyes blaring at you with horns(fins) in the back. I want this f**ker to look like it can eat you.

I see your point. But I guess if we're talking about a psychological impact on criminals - it could go either way. Meaning having the car literally looking like a monster may actually be less scary than just simply being stealth.

What if no one ever sees the batmobile, but just hears it? So everytime you hear this distinct engine sound in the distance - you know he's coming.

That may be much more terrorizing than actually seeing this car coming down the street (regardless of how it looks).

Hmm.

 

[XCharlieX]

Funny thing is if BB started out with a sleeker car, people here wouldn't even be complaining for a more "realistic" vehicle.

You can do a sleek car or a rough and tough approach, but seems to me the look alone says it all about the toughness of this car. Now that its used, imo keep it. Its something new, and just LOOKS like a powerful weapon. Thats why we want it to stay. Its not really that a sleek car would be unrealistic, its that this one makes SURE you know its for a realistic environment first and foremost and not about lavish style.

 

[Bathead]

If Batman wants to be incognito, so to speak, all he has to do is use one of Bruce Waynes many cars. The Batmobile is meant to be obvious, and when necessary, can use it's so-called "stealth' mode. I know if i was a crook trying to escape, and saw that thing in my rear-view mirror, I'd be crapping myself.

 

[XCharlieX]

One thing Nolan did was make some very smart tighening loose ends here and there to bring batman back after no more than 8 years after the movies died off.

IMO one of them was making sure batman isnt seen as a tacky guy who welds wings onto his car because hes so full of himself... it got pretty silly there. Nolans sensibilities are a reaction to those films. Hes aiming for something else. Not to blame burton..imo schumacher killed many things for the entire franchise by exaggerating them to the point of absurdity.

 

[explode7]

They should make the batmobile look like the one in the cartoon THE BATMAN.

 

[explode7]

Like this

or this

 

[E-Mack]

You can do a sleek car or a rough and tough approach, but seems to me the look alone says it all about the toughness of this car. Now that its used, imo keep it. Its something new, and just LOOKS like a powerful weapon. Thats why we want it to stay. Its not really that a sleek car would be unrealistic, its that this one makes SURE you know its for a realistic environment first and foremost and not about lavish style.

And what exactly is Batman's costume?

3/4 of the things Nolan put in to "explain" the look of the suit was made up. It's fiction. He knew he couldn't just change the suit, so he made a way to justify it. Did it pretty well too.

I'm just saying some of you guys need to lay off on this reality BS. You surround the fantasy elements with realistic properties. It's not the other way around.

 

[tinister]

If Batman wants to be incognito, so to speak, all he has to do is use one of Bruce Waynes many cars. The Batmobile is meant to be obvious, and when necessary, can use it's so-called "stealth' mode. I know if i was a crook trying to escape, and saw that thing in my rear-view mirror, I'd be crapping myself.

Definitely - seeing huge glowing demon eyes in your rearview mirror would be freaky. But that's in cases when he's involved in an actual car chase with a criminal. What if he's just patrolling for criminals?

I argue that a car that is made up to look menacing will actually have to remain stealth for the most part in order to retain that menacing quality. If it is seen driving all over town - it will become less and less menacing.

But the catch is that I imagine it is pretty hard to not get noticed driving around town in a car made up to look like a bat creature.

It's a catch22 situation.

HOW ABOUT THIS?

What if he had a car that looked "normal", but could - at the flip of a switch - "transform" into the actual Batmobile?

I think that could work.

 

[XCharlieX]

And what exactly is Batman's costume?

3/4 of the things Nolan put in to "explain" the look of the suit was made up. It's fiction. He knew he couldn't just change the suit, so he made a way to justify it. Did it pretty well too.

I'm just saying some of you guys need to lay off on this reality BS. You surround the fantasy elements with realistic properties. It's not the other way around.

And he tossed the bright yellow belt and symbol if you noticed. Just because one thing is there doesnt mean the rest HAVE to be. This is the problem with the masses... they dont get the instinct... it doesnt make sense across the board to everyone, especially folks like you, but in the end it gets the desired effect to those that get it.

"There is only batman." Batmans the symbol. The cars arent. You either get it or dont. Its like dancing.. you either cant or can.

 

[explode7]

Not in Nolan's world the other dudes can use them in their neon coloured world of batman.

 

[tinister]

...plus, how else is batman getting to and from the cave? without a car that can jump like that, he's out of luck.

In the Batman world of Joel Schummacher (Batman & Robin) - Batman could just us his handy "Bat-bus pass" to get around*

*Remember the Bat-Credit card? Ugh. I made the mistake to renting B&R to view again last night. I'm still vomitting today.

 

[XCharlieX]

lol you shouldve known better. IMO the flapping wings as the batmobile jumped up and down the street with hydraulics in forever sealed batmans cars fate when the saga is revamped... no flashy pimp mobiles lol

 

[E-Mack]

And he tossed the bright yellow belt and symbol if you noticed. Just because one thing is there doesnt mean the rest HAVE to be. This is the problem with the masses... they dont get the instinct... it doesnt make sense across the board to everyone, especially folks like you, but in the end it gets the desired effect to those that get it.

"There is only batman." Batmans the symbol. The cars arent. You either get it or dont. Its like dancing.. you either cant or can.

Actually, he kept that "bright" yellow belt. With everything practically black, the belt definitely stood out.

And what exactly do you mean by "folks like you"? Comic book readers? Cause I find it funny how you talk about "getting" something when you admitted you weren't that big a fan of the mythos.

 

[explode7]

The Schummacher bat movies the bat mobile looked like plastic toys.

 

[XCharlieX]

Actually, he kept that "bright" yellow belt. With everything practically black, the belt definitely stood out.

Actually the belt is bronze. Check Keatons. Yellow. Bronze looks more professional than yellow.

And what exactly do you mean by "folks like you"? Comic book readers? Cause I find it funny how you talk about "getting" something when you admitted you weren't that big a fan of the mythos.

Folks like you refers to folks who dont get the realistic style. Since they dont, they dont believe its legitimate and dont know when to stop pushing certain elements in a film such as this and complain about it. Its all instinct.

And i am a huge fan of the mythos. The mythos of the films.

 

[E-Mack]

Actually the belt is bronze. CHeck Keatons. Yellow. Bronze looks more professional than yellow.

He darkened it. Same deal with darkening the suit from gray to black. It's still in tact.

Folks like you refers to folks who dont get the realistic style. Since they dont, they dont believe its legitimate and dont know when to stop pushing certain elements in a film such as this and complain about it. Its all instinct.

That assumption couldn't be more wrong. I do get the realistic style. In fact I welcome it, cause I think Nolan did a fantastic job. It's when people start suggesting all these changes that are unnecessary, is when I step in and defend for the "fantasy" angle.

 

[XCharlieX]

He darkened it. Same deal with darkening the suit from gray to black. It's still in tact.

He bronzed it.

That assumption couldn't be more wrong. I do get the realistic style. In fact I welcome it, cause I think Nolan did a fantastic job. It's when people start suggesting all these changes that are unnecessary, is when I step in and defend for the "fantasy" angle.

Once again i said you can have a sleek car, but its also important to keep tight restraints on what you let into this franchise. Bad ideas or similar ones that destroyed the old franchise are like termites. Right now it doesnt look bad, but doors are opened for later nonsense and tearing down. Thats how Burton cued up schumacher to destroy the franchise. He didnt mean it but universe morphing means anythings possible, even the dumbest things.

 

[E-Mack]

He bronzed it.

What f'n color do you get when you darken yellow just enough? Why are you arguing this?

Once again i said you can have a sleek car, but its also important to keep tight restraints on what you let into this franchise. Bad ideas or similar ones that destroyed the old franchise are like termites. Right now it doesnt look bad, but doors are opened for later nonsense and tearing down.

I don't have a problem with that. Of course you have to be careful of what gets translated to film, since not everything works. But at the same time you can't be afraid of using elements from the source material.

 

[XCharlieX]

What f'n color do you get when you darken yellow just enough? Why are you arguing this?

fair enough, but bronze looks much more likely to be serious weaponry than bright yellow. This was the point.

I get the vibe that Bruce Wayne of this franchise likes to play with sleek cars (the hotel arrival) and likes to do business with things like the tumbler. IMO its a safe thing to keep in place.

 

[E-Mack]

fair enough, but bronze looks much more likely to be serious weaponry than bright yellow. This was the point.

I wasn't arguing that point. In fact all you did was validate me, cause I did say Nolan kept the basic "color tones" in tact. Which is true.

Same way Singer darkened Superman's red cape. It's dark as hell. But it's still red.