The Amazing Spider-Man 2 How should the Goblin look???

[Resistance61513]

I feel like it has to do with the lighting in the shot. That's why I'm thinking they only do night shots if they were to go that route.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

yeah but it looks fake..they either pull this look off as a realisitic mutated goblin or make it more obvious that he is just wearing a mask...or do the technical aproach, which they already did. if this is supposed to look like a real ''person'' then there is need of improvement...i mean prosthetics yes...but then it has to look more convincing...its to much over the top...it could fit in a diffrent style of movie. more comic accurate but also too comic bookish...not that this is a bad thing at all...but not fitting for such an expensive movie with very high expectations

 

[Venom'sDad]

I'd argue that Nolan stayed extremely true to the core of those characters, whilst changing only superficial details. Changing the Norman/Harry dynamic and having Harry (possibly) kill Gwen is not staying true to the core of the characters at all.

No one other than Norman will kill Gwen, no worries there. The method of her demise is another thing. I do appreciate Webb's intent in not being predictable or obvious, with his approach to an iconic moment in comic book history.

As far as the look, I suppose I'm alone in thinking there is much to be said about a man who not only hides his identity with a mask, but encompasses it into his own persona...be it split persona. In comparison to someone who transform into a being and have reason to be evil, effects of becoming......unlike someone who chose to be evil, and hide that evilness/conniving/strategic/manipulating persona behind a mask, deceivingly behind his humanity. I don't mind a small amount of open soars & skin mutations as a result of the formula gone bad, but no physically alterations. Maybe it's just me that understand the intent of wearing the mask, as oppose to transforming into a hideous monster with no excuse but to become a monster.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Look at this.

Scroll down and look at this.
https://www.stanwinstonschool.com/blog/spider-man-green-goblin-adi-makeup-test

 

[jaymes_e06]

This would be perfect for Goblin 1 part two.

 

[Alex_Spider]

No one other than Norman will kill Gwen, no worries there. The method of her demise is another thing. I do appreciate Webb's intent in not being predictable or obvious, with his approach to an iconic moment in comic book history.

As far as the look, I suppose I'm alone in thinking there is much to be said about a man who not only hides his identity with a mask, but encompasses it into his own persona...be it split persona. In comparison to someone who transform into a being and have reason to be evil, effects of becoming......unlike someone who chose to be evil, and hide that evilness/conniving/strategic/manipulating persona behind a mask, deceivingly behind his humanity. I don't mind a small amount of open soars & skin mutations as a result of the formula gone bad, but no physically alterations. Maybe it's just me that understand the intent of wearing the mask, as oppose to transforming into a hideous monster with no excuse but to become a monster.

Thank you and no you are not alone in this. Sadly we are a very small minority when it should be the exact opposite. But what can you do, living in a world where superhero blockbusters are dominating and becoming a status. It is only natural that they will prevail over the comics being the weaker medium. Not only that, but we have the paradox, that some people will take the movies and the characters they have established, over the source material. That to me is a travesty.

 

[Repulsor Blast]

i don't think anyone doesn't want green goblin to wear a mask, it's just that they can forgive a design where he is mutated instead.

for me personally, i really do think norman will be the green goblin in the next movie and his design will be very close to the 616 version.

i reckon that is why more people aren't complaining about harry goblin's look; they expect a different-looking norman goblin.

ps. if they made harry look exactly like green goblin, it would just make a bunch of people get up in arms because it would be a strong indication that he kills gwen and is effectively replacing norman altogether. his current design, his incomplete armour, his imperfected serum, it all speaks to a foreshadowing of norman as the true GG, imo.

so yeah, until we get a look at norman's alter ego in tasm3, people should chill out a bit.

 

[Alex_Spider]

i don't think anyone doesn't want green goblin to wear a mask, it's just that they can forgive a design where he is mutated instead.

for me personally, i really do think norman will be the green goblin in the next movie and his design will be very close to the 616 version.

i reckon that is why more people aren't complaining about harry goblin's look; they expect a different-looking norman goblin.

ps. if they made harry look exactly like green goblin, it would just make a bunch of people get up in arms because it would be a strong indication that he kills gwen and is effectively replacing norman altogether. his current design, his incomplete armour, his imperfected serum, it all speaks to a foreshadowing of norman as the true GG, imo.

so yeah, until we get a look at norman's alter ego in tasm3, people should chill out a bit.

Well, even with the hope of seeing a comics faithful Norman GG in 3, I still don't like the fact that Harry is the first GG. That completely changes the character's original conception and purpose. I mean why the hell is Harry introduced as evil and a villain in this movie? In the comics we got this interesting dynamic him being an innocent and caring kid, while his father a complete bastard. Why change that and make them both evil?

 

[Neno_Kos]

Well, even with the hope of seeing a comics faithful Norman GG in 3, I still don't like the fact that Harry is the first GG. That completely changes the character's original conception and purpose. I mean why the hell is Harry introduced as evil and a villain in this movie? In the comics we got this interesting dynamic him being an innocent and caring kid, while his father a complete bastard. Why change that and make them both evil?

Because it's Sony, deal with it You and I will never see faithfull comic adaptation of characters or stories from them. They will always try to make something new, complete new story with some elements from comics. It's too mainstream to have real Goblin but it's not to have Spiderman. It will be hard for audience to buy crazy guy wearing a mask and medieval costume with some high tech equipment like pumpking bombs on glider bombing New York, but it's not hard to buy a real Lizard who can speak with laboratory in sewer

 

[Alex_Spider]

Because it's Sony, deal with it You and I will never see faithfull comic adaptation of characters or stories from them. They will always try to make something new, complete new story with some elements from comics. It's too mainstream to have real Goblin but it's not to have Spiderman. It will be hard for audience to buy crazy guy wearing a mask and medieval costume with some high tech equipment like pumpking bombs on glider bombing New York, but it's not hard to buy a real Lizard who can speak with laboratory in sewer

lol for a minute there I thought you were gonna attack me for wanting a faithful adaptation with the way you wrote the bold part t: Yeah, it is super easy to get a comic accurate Goblin if they put a little thought and creativity behind it. Anyway, that's how the film industry works. We should have learned by now.

 

[Venom'sDad]

I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment RepulsorB...Norman & Harry are father & son. They share the same genetic make up, as would be expected from one's offspring. We see in the trailer, they both seem to have a very similar effect from whatever it is infecting them...obviously, Norman is in a far more advance state or later stage, I should say. So, I don't expect much different in appearance, and they both seem to be displaying, not only similar green splotches on the skin; but also, changes in their iris.

I'm just saying....

 

[Whiskey Tango]

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[PalmerTheThing]

Honestly...

Harry's new glider looks really awesome, and the proto suit looks really deadly, but the face and hair is what gets me. It obviously is a Proto-Goblin so I can forgive the lack of finishes on it.

I have a feeling Norman will have a completed version of the armor with purple finishes, and a purple helmet with a green mutated face and long ears (or maybe they will still stick with the bluetooth ears).

I can almost bet he will look like that, it just sounds so right and fitting.

 

[goh78]

I think the faster some of you folks accept that Harry is the Goblin and not Norman the better off you'll all be...

Also has no one thought maybe the reason the suit looks "unfinished" is that he is in a fight and Spidey is destroying it?

Also

Spoiler

What was it earlier about the Sixth Sense? Dehaan had said in an interview that it would be "cool to go back and do that again" or something...I think I read a theory that Norman had actually been dead and the Goblin was causing Harry to hallucinate Norman or something...?

 

[HUMANIMAL]

i doubt that with the unfinished suit is caused because of the fight....but maybe he is hallucinating his dad...but why should he see him with his melting face?
i still believe they change the goblin evolution and norman becomes the hob goblin, or calls himself the green goblin as well....
i wonder if dehaan will survive...if they are planning the sinister six then there are only three for sure...lizard, doc ock and vulture...all others could die. very doubtfull too....

 

[Nicko-Ray]

Honestly...

Harry's new glider looks really awesome, and the proto suit looks really deadly, but the face and hair is what gets me. It obviously is a Proto-Goblin so I can forgive the lack of finishes on it.

I have a feeling Norman will have a completed version of the armor with purple finishes, and a purple helmet with a green mutated face and long ears (or maybe they will still stick with the bluetooth ears).

I can almost bet he will look like that, it just sounds so right and fitting.

Yeah it's growing on me. The glider looks great so far, I can't wait to get a better look at it. The tech suit reminds me of Mega Man because one side of his arm is complete, the other isn't.
Again we have to get a better look at his face. I hope there's more detail than we see. I wanna see a mutated Dane.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think the Goblin looks fine. The CGI just needs some more work. We haven't gotten a very good shot of his face yet, so I will reserve my judgements until then. Otherwise if his character is written well enough, it won't matter much to me.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

I think it's hilarious that freaking Chris Nolan gave us a movie where one of the main villains wears a burlap sack over his face, but we can't get a goblin mask (opinions on Dafoe mask nonwithstanding)

 

[eon001]

I'm content with the Goblin in the trailer, but I hope they can some how incorporate a variation of the hood and cloak.
At least this time we get to see Goblins facial expressions this time.

 

[Infinity9999x]

I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment RepulsorB...Norman & Harry are father & son. They share the same genetic make up, as would be expected from one's offspring. We see in the trailer, they both seem to have a very similar effect from whatever it is infecting them...obviously, Norman is in a far more advance state or later stage, I should say. So, I don't expect much different in appearance, and they both seem to be displaying, not only similar green splotches on the skin; but also, changes in their iris.

I'm just saying....

Unless of course Harry's Goblin Formula was uncompleted, or Norman finds a way to enhance it after ASM2. So a change in the look could still easily happen.

 

[Spideyfan117]

I have to respectfully disagree with your assessment RepulsorB...Norman & Harry are father & son. They share the same genetic make up, as would be expected from one's offspring. We see in the trailer, they both seem to have a very similar effect from whatever it is infecting them...obviously, Norman is in a far more advance state or later stage, I should say. So, I don't expect much different in appearance, and they both seem to be displaying, not only similar green splotches on the skin; but also, changes in their iris.

I'm just saying....

Um... doesn't that make it MORE likely that Norman will have a different appearance? Norman could very well be deteriorating from an imperfect serum like Harry, resulting in a very nasty skin condition. If we take what Chris Cooper said into consideration along with the leaked post-credits scene (which is quite possibly accurate considering Yurka said most of what was leaked is true), it's obvious that Norman is going to get a cure of some sort, possibly take a completed version of the serum (one without all the physically harmful side effects), and become the "finished" Goblin. Everything Harry has is incomplete. The serum, the suit, the benefits of the serum. This very well could be foreshadowing a "finished" design later on.

 

[HUMANIMAL]

a voice in my head said i have to do it

 

[Picard Sisko]

I think it's hilarious that freaking Chris Nolan gave us a movie where one of the main villains wears a burlap sack over his face, but we can't get a goblin mask (opinions on Dafoe mask nonwithstanding)

Its not the same thing though. Scarecrow is a completely different character, and a minor one at that.

 

[Picard Sisko]

The fact that they chose for Harry to be the first Goblin really shows that Sony isn't letting the fans run the movie for them.

 

[GoldGoblin]