The Dark Knight Rises How smart is nolan's batman?

[Godzilla2014]

AND, he probably did the Batpod coming out of the Tumbler thingie.

True, after all, if it was a pre-existing feature of the Tumbler, then I think Lucius Fox would have mentioned it when he was going over the Tumbler's list of features with Bruce in Batman Begins.

 

[ultimatefan]

True, after all, if it was a pre-existing feature of the Tumbler, then I think Lucius Fox would have mentioned it when he was going over the Tumbler's list of features with Bruce in Batman Begins.

It probably wasn´t, cuz the original point of the Tumbler was to toil cables to build bridges, but Batman might have thought, "hey, in case the League of Shadows or some other enemy wrecks this thing, I will need some kind of escape mode/alternative vehicle". He probably didn´t build it, but sketched out a concept like with the new suit.

 

[Godzilla2014]

It probably wasn´t, cuz the original point of the Tumbler was to toil cables to build bridges, but Batman might have thought, "hey, in case the League of Shadows or some other enemy wrecks this thing, I will need some kind of escape mode/alternative vehicle". He probably didn´t build it, but sketched out a concept like with the new suit.

That would make sense.

 

[Doc Samson]

I'm not talking Bat God levels. I'm talking just being a genius. He should be the guy inventing the sonar tech. Not implementing it. In Begins he should be the guy formulating the antidote.

In BB, if he had formulated the antidote without Fox's help, Rachel would have died at the hands of Crane in the Asylum long before TDK. Remember, he got gassed himself, and only regained consciousness with Fox's antidote. Right after that, Rachel runs off to confront Crane and he had to follow her, only hours later. I don't see the timeframe where he could have worked on an antidote. I don't even see how he would have recovered in the first place.

And if he took the time to invent the sonar tech in TDK, the Joker most likely would have killed ten times the amount of people he did, he was intent on killing people every night. It's not like these things were happening while Bruce was on vacation, he was running around the city, down in the trenches trying to thwart numerous attempts by the mob & then the Joker to murder & cause destruction city-wide, while Fox has the time, and resources, to develop these devices. I don't see what the problem is?

 

[Godzilla2014]

In BB, if he had formulated the antidote without Fox's help, Rachel would have died at the hands of Crane in the Asylum long before TDK. Remember, he got gassed himself, and only regained consciousness with Fox's antidote. Right after that, Rachel runs off to confront Crane and he had to follow her, only hours later. I don't see the timeframe where he could have worked on an antidote. I don't even see how he would have recovered in the first place.

And if he took the time to invent the sonar tech in TDK, the Joker most likely would have killed ten times the amount of people he did, he was intent on killing people every night. It's not like these things were happening while Bruce was on vacation, he was running around the city, down in the trenches trying to thwart numerous attempts by the mob & then the Joker to murder & cause destruction city-wide, while Fox has the time, and resources, to develop these devices. I don't see what the problem is?

Exactly.

 

[noonelovesrobin]

Seriously, how many guys can take Fox's sonar concept and make that huge machine?

Nolan's Batman is very smart.But his movies aren't some detective story so we don't see that intelligence on action much. It's hinted on words or fast scenes like he finds Joker's henchmen from finger print on a bullet.

 

[Gianakin_]

Nolan's Batman is pretty smart, he's just not "kid playing with his action figures and making everyone super powerful and smart and strong and, and, and super cool" smart, like he is in the comics.

 

[American_Idiot]

...smarter than he appears on Super Friends...

 

[November Rain]

In pictoral terms

dcau bats smart to the left, nolan smarts to the right

and there's nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't put nolans bruce any smarter than an adult terry.

but as amanda waller said, he still has heart and compasion for his fellow human kind. so that's good enough for the nolanverse.

except terry owned the joker on their last encounter

 

[American_Idiot]

In pictoral terms

dcau bats smart to the left, nolan smarts to the right

and there's nothing wrong with that. I wouldn't put nolans bruce any smarter than an adult terry.

but as amanda waller said, he still has heart and compasion for his fellow human kind. so that's good enough for the nolanverse.

except terry owned the joker on their last encounter

Heyyy, isn't that... Clint Eastwood and Wes Bentley?

 

[miggizle85]

Bruce is a genuis. He got rid of annoying Rachel Dawes and made it all look like an accident. He really knows how to hold a grudge.

"Slap me in the face twice will ya?"

 

[noonelovesrobin]

Bruce is a genuis. He got rid of annoying Rachel Dawes and made it all look like an accident. He really knows how to hold a grudge.

"Slap me in the face twice will ya?"

hahahaha t: i'm glad she is dead.

 

[November Rain]

Heyyy, isn't that... Clint Eastwood and Wes Bentley?

wes always gave me the spiderman feel, i thought he would have made a great peter parker/spiderman over tobey back in the day

 

[Marvin]

In BB, if he had formulated the antidote without Fox's help, Rachel would have died at the hands of Crane in the Asylum long before TDK. Remember, he got gassed himself, and only regained consciousness with Fox's antidote. Right after that, Rachel runs off to confront Crane and he had to follow her, only hours later. I don't see the timeframe where he could have worked on an antidote. I don't even see how he would have recovered in the first place.

And if he took the time to invent the sonar tech in TDK, the Joker most likely would have killed ten times the amount of people he did, he was intent on killing people every night. It's not like these things were happening while Bruce was on vacation, he was running around the city, down in the trenches trying to thwart numerous attempts by the mob & then the Joker to murder & cause destruction city-wide, while Fox has the time, and resources, to develop these devices. I don't see what the problem is?

Essentially what your saying is that the plot didn't allow Bruce the time to go off and be inventive for he was too busy dealing with the terrorists?

 

[Doc Samson]

Essentially what your saying is that the plot didn't allow Bruce the time to go off and be inventive for he was too busy dealing with the terrorists?

Essentially, yes.

In BB, without Fox coming up with the antidote, Bruce may have been comatose much longer than he already was. If that was the case, Dawes would have died at the Asylum, Ras' plot would have continued without a hitch, and Gotham would have been destroyed. After Bruce regained consciousness from the fear toxin, the rest of the movie took place in one day. Where was the time to come up with an antidote?

And as far as TDK goes, yes, he was quite busy running around Gotham (and Hong Kong) He was waging war against the mob, it's not like he needed alot of technological advancements. It wasn't until the Joker starting upping the ante that he even needed to worry about the Sonar on a city-wide scale, and once he did, he developed it further. Alone.

 

[TheBatman072]

I'd say he's pretty smart and only getting smarter.

It's still his early years. Hell, in Year One he could barely even take on some punk kids stealing a tv.

Nowhere to go but up.

 

[swapnilgyani]

Nolan's Bruce learns from his mistakes, and outght to be pretty knowledgable by now...

 

[mpwjr]

Nolan's Batman makes mistakes, as everyone does, it makes for compelling story telling. But he's clearly very intelligent. To assert otherwise would be kind of ridiculous.

 

[moviedoors]

Couldn't you have just quoted that article from Cracked? haha

Yeah, I read that article, but I've felt that way about Holmes the literary character for awhile now. Ritchie's version was kind of just a goofball and the BBC version, as the character himself puts it, is a "high functioning sociopath." The old school Rathbone portrayals and what not were more gentlemanly. Really, I can't think of a take on the character that doesn't bear more than just a general surface similarity to Batman.

 

[AnneFan]

hahahaha t: i'm glad she is dead.

Me too. Katie was alright, and Maggie was better in TDK, but c'mon, Anne Hathway and Marion Cotillard are a massive step up. It's the last film for Nolan and it feels like we're just beginning with the female cast.

 

[The_Joker_hahah]

Bruce Wayne is very intellegent in the Nolan films. Way more than any of the previous incarnations in the other flicks.

I'll give us a couple of examples.

While Fox gives Bruce the Armor, he pretty much modifies it and makes it his own. He designs the weapons, which not only work, but they are effective aswell. He makes the gauntlets from scratch, which resemble the ones Ninjas would wear in the LOS. He was Ducard's finest student, not only because he was gifted physically..but due to the fact that he was extremely intellegent and quick learner.

Fear is what Bruce went for in BB. He wanted the Criminals to fear him more than anything else. It was his idea to have ultrasonic signaling device capable of calling live bats to it as a form of protection and cover for Batman during a getaway. Granted that Fox made the Antidote, but if it wasnt for Bruce's detective work, Fox would be dead before he even knew what he was dealing with.

And he did all this in the infancy age of being Batman. A time when one wouldnt know much, and would no doubt make alot of mistakes.

I could go on as to how much smarter he gets in TDK. But i'll leave that for another time. Suffice to say that Bruce is growing and learning with time. It wont be long before he designs all his weapons, vehicles and gadgets from scratch, and is completely independant.

TDKR has yet to reveal how much more Bruce has grown. But im pretty sure we'll get a true sense of that when the movie comes out. t:

 

[Fake Hero]

Bruce Wayne is very intellegent in the Nolan films. Way more than any of the previous incarnations in the other flicks.

I disagree, Keaton discovering the Joker's plan in Batman '89 was far more ingenious than anything Bale has done.

Not only did he discover how the Joker was poisoning people, but he was able to figure out what combinations of products were lethal, and he developed a cure.

That was classic Batman. I haven't seen Bale do anything on that level in the last 2 films.

 

[Godzilla2014]

To me, Nolan's Batman is very intelligent, but has much to learn from experience. And to me, that's how I think an early-career Batman should be.

 

[The_Joker_hahah]

I disagree, Keaton discovering the Joker's plan in Batman '89 was far more ingenious than anything Bale has done.

Not only did he discover how the Joker was poisoning people, but he was able to figure out what combinations of products were lethal, and he developed a cure.

That was classic Batman. I haven't seen Bale do anything on that level in the last 2 films.

Really? And you think that Bruce taking Fox's Sonar device to a whole different level, and creating a huge computer that mapped all of Gotham, to find the Joker was anything short of Genius?

I disagree.

 

[Cú Chulainn]

What was with Bruce not finishing his college education???

One of the things about Batman which made him such a great hero/detective was that he studied - A LOT. He studied science (physics, chemistry and biology), philosophy, psychology, law etc etc etc.