See I wouldn't be debating so much on here if things like this weren't going on. I know Doom was not entirely faithful enough. But you see when the people who don't like movie Doom start to ignore and bash EVERYTHING about him and say he has NO faithful or redeeming qualities then they are just being a little too pissed off and refuse to believe that anything good can come from a character that differs from the original.
Exactly. I get that there were changes to Doom. Most of them weren't neccessarily improvements on his comic book persona, although some of the changes were darn cool, period. But again, the same holds true for MANY comic book villains. Changes happen in order to fit them into stories. They happen in order to make characters more interesting in the eyes of the public, more relevant to the given story, and in order to just fit characters into film in a way that allows them not to just "show up". It seems like everything is either amazing or crap now. There's no in-between for anyone on SHH anymore.
Doom hated the Fantastic Four, he is in a battle of smarts with Reed, he wanted to gain a lot of power, he donned the mask because if the state of his face, he has the mask and cloak, he has super strength, he is Latverian, he is a graduate of MIT, he is vain, and he kills many people in the movie. YOU CANNOT DEBATE THESE! Quit trying to say they are not faithful to the character just because there are other things they changed about it him.
Exactly.
At least hate him for the right reason. Go ahead and hate the electricity, organic metal, the love triangle, etc. but quit trying to make it look like they changed everything completely.
Even the love triangle has elements of the comic book situation. And its really not a love triangle, since Sue clearly doesn't return Doom's feelings here.
I've already explained why all of this was unfaithful, how he hated Reed for all the wrong reasons, could shoot lighting for the wrong reasons, etc. Read my post above. I'm not throwing garbage here, I usually hate a character when there's good reasons to hate him.
Ok...we'll play this game.
For example:
In BATMAN BEGINS, Ra's Al Ghul hates Bruce Wayne because he burned his home and betrayed him, depriving him of his method to destroy Gotham. Know why he hates Bruce Wayne in the comics? Because he seeks to stop his quest (which ISN'T the quest he has in the movie) and because Bruce shuns his daughter and Ra's outlook on the world. Therefore, Ra's Al Ghul and Bruce Wayne hate each other for the wrong reasons.
In BATMAN BEGINS, Bruce Wayne becomes Batman because he sees a ****load of bats in the cave, as a sort of omen. But in the comics, he sees a lone bat fly/smash through his window. He also decided to be a bat because he's, get this, scared of them. Since the movie changed things up, Bruce Wayne has now chosen to become Batman for the wrong reasons, since what is in BEGINS doesn't EXACTLY coincide with what is in the comics. Nevermind that the idea that a bat led him to adopt the image is the point, it's not ENTIRELY FAITHFUL! BOO! Crappy ****ty adaption!
Don't get me started on why The Scarecrow is now "**** on", given that he's basically handed Fear Gas and has been "reduced to a thug" (I'm being sarcastic, for the most part I liked Scarecrow, but the poi nt should start to become obvious. It has something to do with realistically fitting beloved characters into, as this one is, and as BATMAN BEGINS was in many ways, an ensemble film).
I can do this with nearly every single comic book film. Once again, the ESSENCE of a character and relationship is what is important when it comes to something that is being adapted from MULTIPLE SOURCES, not neccessarily the exact details.
So Dr. Doom is a cosmic freak now, with powers. Ok, big misstep in terms of faithfulness, although storywise, it works well enough for any one who isn't obsessed with being completely faithful to the comics. Much like Ra's worked without Talia, the Pit, all things that pretty much MAKE him Ra's Al Ghul in the comics.
But in terms of the essence of Doom? He's an intelligent man who, due to his ego and sense of self, has become an evil freak with armor, who shoots electricity from his hands, who hates the Four, who is an egomanic with obvious power and world aspirations, who had feelings for Sue Storm, hated Richards, and blames Richards for his condition.