"I am DOOM! What MODS Dare Stand Against Me! - Part 2

[Spiderine]

I would say the best time to introduce Doom assuming rights changed hands by then would be immediately following the events of Infinity War. Somehow being a major benefactor beginning his manipulations in a changing world in which his influence is is spreading beyond that of just a powerful ruler of Latveria.

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

If and when they ever get Doom Im sure they will knock it out the park with his casting. Im sure MCU Doom is already lurking unlike that internet FOX blogger Doom.

I'm fairly certain that when Marvel gets the FF rights back, doing Doom absolutely perfect would be one of their top priorities after 3 failed attempts by Fox to adapt him to the big screen.

 

[Drz]

Will Doom join the ranks of quipping like Ultron or will he die after 5 minutes like Baron Strucker? :P

Personally i'm just waiting for the dance off with Iron Man. Now jokes aside, I just don't see the anticipation for MCU Doom when we've seen what they have done with the other villains, I mean there is a topic here "does Marvel have trouble with its villains" and it shows good discussion on both sides regarding MCU's villains.

 

[Eddie]

If Marvel took Loki and Iron Man (two characters they've done very well), threw Strange into the mix (their take on Strange is looking very promising), and used those as inspiration for MCU Doom they'd have a pretty solid foundation. The characters they've done that are most reminiscent of Doom have been done well.

Also, you are using a behind the scenes gag to try and prove your ridiculous point.

 

[Zarex]

Will Doom join the ranks of quipping like Ultron or will he die after 5 minutes like Baron Strucker? :P

Personally i'm just waiting for the dance off with Iron Man. Now jokes aside, I just don't see the anticipation for MCU Doom when we've seen what they have done with the other villains, I mean there is a topic here "does Marvel have trouble with its villains" and it shows good discussion on both sides regarding MCU's villains.

Marvel has a villain problem. So does FOX, which currently has a lineup of mutant supremacists and anti-mutant government agents. As does DC, which has the Joker.

Though Marvel has some misses, they also have a number of hits in their cinematic villain lineup - Loki, Stane, Zola, Schmidt, Pierce, Nebula, Bucky. And I'd include Ultron in the hit category as well. And Marvel simply couldn't screw up the character nearly as bad as FOX has in their multiple attempts.

 

[Val_Zod]

Will Doom join the ranks of quipping like Ultron or will he die after 5 minutes like DDINO? :P

Personally i'm just waiting for the dance off with Iron Man. Now jokes aside, I just don't see the anticipation for MCU Doom when we've seen what they have done with the other villains, I mean there is a topic here "does Marvel have trouble with its villains" and it shows good discussion on both sides regarding MCU's villains.

Fixed that for you.

 

[Drz]

Marvel has a villain problem. So does FOX, which currently has a lineup of mutant supremacists and anti-mutant government agents.

Kevin Bacon, Magneto and William Stryker are memorable villains in my opinion, does the archtype matter when the performance is so good from the likes of Fassbender, etc?

Though Marvel has some misses, they also have a number of hits in their cinematic villain lineup

I think they have mostly misses in their villains, still I for example liked Yellowjacket simply because he was the best Ultron we'll ever get for Hank Pym.

 

[Zarex]

Kevin Bacon, Magneto and William Stryker are memorable villains in my opinion, does the archtype matter when the performance is so good from the likes of Fassbender, etc?

I liked all three, but I simply can't give FOX kudos for solving the villain problem when they keep trotting out the same guy(s). Villains are a tough nut to crack, but an armored mystically-enhanced beloved tyrant with genius level intellect offers something new in a grouping filled with corrupt government officials, power hungry businessmen, mass murderers and world destroyers. Doom has a chance to be a breath of fresh air and I am cautiously optimistic Feige and company won't screw him up.

 

[TeeKay]

EVERY MCU villain is better than Doom in the FFINO. That isn't even up for debate.

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Wait... people are still taking Drz's posts seriously?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

EVERY MCU villain is better than Doom in the FFINO. That isn't even up for debate.

Arnold's Mr. Freeze is a better villain than the two versions of Doom Fox has given us.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Wait... people are still taking Drz's posts seriously?

My brain just shows me tv static as I scroll past them these days.

 

[Snow Queen]

Arnold's Mr. Freeze is a better villain than the two versions of Doom Fox has given us.

At least I could tell who he was supposed to be, unlike the crash test dummy with teddy bear eyes.

 

[Flint Marko]

Every MCU villain is better than the majority of Fox's, especially every incarnation of Doom. There is no debate.

 

[Spiderine]

They had three shots at Doom. The most iconic villain in Marvel stable. You don't screw him up 3 times as a main featured villain.


And lol at bringing up Baron von Strucker. He would have never been a main featured villain worthy as a primary threat like Doom. And I doubt anybody truly misses him. Hydra has plenty of front men to use. You will see one in Civil war.

The only one they truly **** the bed with was Mandarin and even Marvel apologized for that one with the one shot. Fox owes us three apologies.

 

[Willie Lumpkin]

Every MCU villain is better than the majority of Fox's, especially every incarnation of Doom. There is no debate.

It would be impossible to do Doom worse than Fox has done. At this point, I would be looking forward to my local community theater's interpretation and certain they could do better than Fox.

With the low bar Fox has set, there's no question Marvel would do better.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

Fox and Frank should have kept him named Domashev and there should have been another villain in the movie. If Victor was introduced he shouldn't have become the villain so fast and so soon and be defeated immediately. I would have preferred they kept him as a character whose villainy grows slowly over the course of a few movies.
Plus I'm guessing Latvaria is a fake country based in Eastern Europe, could you try and find an actor with that back ground and maybe a little of an accent. This guy just reminded me of some recovering stoner whose mad at the world because he bailed on the Facebook development.

 

[Quasar]

It would be impossible to do Doom worse than Fox has done.

I don't know. I would never bet against Fox's ability to top itself in the terrible adaptation category.

 

[Tony Stark]

Kevin Bacon, Magneto and William Stryker are memorable villains in my opinion, does the archtype matter when the performance is so good from the likes of Fassbender, etc?

Kevin Bacon and William Stryker? Are you serious?

 

[Tony Stark]

Wait... people are still taking Drz's posts seriously?

I don't take his posts seriously. I just wonder if he is completely delusional, or if he's just trolling us. Could be both.

 

[Farren]

Actually I'm with Drz: I think Stryker (X2) and Shaw were pretty good villains.

Marvel's problem with their villains is that they don't give them enough character development. If villains like Ronan or Malekith or Yellowjacket had just had an extra couple scenes of development it would have made a world of difference.

 

[Tony Stark]

There have been three interpretations of Stryker, only one of them was noteworthy. Shaw might have been a good villain for that film but he's nothing special, nothing memorable.

Loki and Ultron, are Marvel's biggest villains in terms of visibility from the comics to the mainstream. Loki is going down easily as one of the greatest film bad guys of all time, thanks to a masterful performance by Hiddleston. Ultron isn't up to Magento either in the comics nor on film. He's a far better villain and will be more remembered than Shaw or Stryker.

 

[Spiderine]

Stryker was a great villain but I wouldn't call him "memorable". He was a part of a memorable film. One which is regarded as the best X flick. Just like Doc Ock. He was part of the best Spidey flick.

Some actors/villains just have memorable performances that stand out like Loki and Magneto. Obadiah Stane is a great villain but I wouldn't use the word memorable. That applies to only a few.

 

[Flint Marko]

Stryker was best in X2, but the only time I ever hear people hold that character in high regard is when they're naming the Fox antagonist's who haven't sucked. They're correct in that he didn't suck, but he certainly wasn't noteworthy.
And I actually really liked Kevin Bacon in FC. I'd say he's the second best villain the X series has ever had. Granted the competition isn't that fierce at all, but I was impressed by his performance.

It would be impossible to do Doom worse than Fox has done. At this point, I would be looking forward to my local community theater's interpretation and certain they could do better than Fox.

With the low bar Fox has set, there's no question Marvel would do better.

The only people who could set the bar lower are Fox.

 

[MydnightPhoenix]

Kevin Bacon and William Stryker? Are you serious?

Stryker was one of the best and creepiest comic book movie villains ever. The idea of him doing what he did to his own son....
I would agree that Stryker and both Magneto's are better than anything Marvel has come up with. Their only memorable villain is Loki. The only other movie I think that had a dangerous antagonist was TWS, both the title character and Pierce.
Most if not all others are lackluster or just downright forgettable: Chitari, Dark Elves, Red Skull, Mickey Rourke, whatever that thing was Loki sent to kill Thor in the first movie...