Infinity War "I Will Bathe The Starways In Your Blood!" The Thanos / Josh Brolin Thread - Part 1

[P Supreme]

if I was living under a rock for the past 20 years and woke up to a magazine cover like that I would assume we have accepted aliens into our cultural HOLY ****

he looks like he truly exist BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[ernesth100]

Thanos sounds perfect. ya'll needa chillax. He's still the Mad Titan, that change is barely a drift from his comic portrayal. And simply because his background and motivations are a little altered to fit the MCU plotline does not mean he won't still be the Thanos we all know and love to hate.

 

[Leo Zelinsky]

They changed things about basically every villain since Age of Ultron idky anyone thought iw would be different. Publishing is a guide not the end all be all for them.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

Yeah its not like any of the previous MCU films have been faithful to the comics either. From what I have heard TWS and CW were nothing like there comic book counterparts, but still turned out to be great movies IMO. If you are expecting the same Thanos from IG you are definitely going to be dissapointed. I'm honestly fine with the changes though.

 

[ernesth100]

Yeah its not like any of the previous MCU films have been faithful to the comics either. From what I have heard TWS and CW were nothing like there comic book counterparts, but still turned out to be great movies IMO. If you are expecting the same Thanos from IG you are definitely going to be dissapointed. I'm honestly fine with the changes though.

This. x100

 

[jaqua99]

His 'motive' of balancing the universe ans saving it is still the same. He just had backstory.

That's fine. They can do that and still have a Starlin-esq Thanos.

 

[Thanos]

He doesn't sound anything remotely like the character from the comics. It seems like we should stop expecting a faithful adaptation and get ready for a largely re-imagined Thanos.

I believe it was in the Silver Surfer issue 34 where Thanos comes back and explains to the Surfer that the universe is imbalanced and that he needs to return that balance by killing off half the universe. It's a great issue, one of my favorite Thanos comics. If they are using that story as the basis behind his motive in Infinity War, then I'm fine with it.

 

[Levsky]

New information regarding Thanos revealed by Josh Brolin. He confirms flashbacks to Thanos' childhood and that he's depicted (similarly to his comic counterpart) as an outcast of his race, deformed and different from the rest of his family. He goes as far as to compare Thanos to the likes of Quasimodo or the main character of "Perfume". This sounds very convincing.

"When you see the relationship with Gamora and you see that evolves, God I wish I could tell you. I can’t! When [directors Joe and Anthony Russo] came up to me after we had done maybe three quarters of the film, they said, “It wasn’t necessarily intended that you feel for this guy as much as you do.” Obviously he has a grand plan, like somebody who’s pulling in kids for their own selfish bloodshed. But he has a capacity to love very much and very deeply. You need that for a character like this because if he’s just a cackling madman bent on destroying everything, it’s less interesting.

"He’s different from his family. They’re all Titans and they all look similar, but he was born deformed. You see how he grew up, you see he was like the Quasimodo of this time, or if you’ve ever read Perfume [Patrick Süskind ‘s 1985 novel about a serial killer who craves beautiful scenes but is disgusted by the smell of humanity], it’s a great parallel to Thanos. He stuck out. He was an anomaly. He was a freak. And that lent to this apparent insanity."

"You want to write him off as insane, and yet what he’s doing makes sense, if you break it down. You think of overpopulation and killing half the universe in order to save the other half and all this kind of stuff. You have this struggle watching him. It’s this love-hate thing, you know? So I don’t know … Who in our society do we love and hate? You see this lughead and this guy who you pigeonhole right from the first cosmetic reaction to him. And what I see is this in this guy’s eyes. This super, super, super intelligence. There’s this constant contrasting thing about this Neanderthalic lughead who’s way more intelligent than anybody else in the movie, by far."
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[Spider-Fan]

He couldn't care less about his people in the comics. He experimented on them as a child and then murdered them all as an adult. He only wanted to wipe out half the universe to gain the affections of Death. He would have done anything to achieve that, including dooming the universe too if need be. He didn't have a benevolent bone in his body.

You say that, and then I am reminded of a comic (was a Christmas tie-in issue) where Thanos remembers when Gamora was young and he gives her a doll.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I believe it was in the Silver Surfer issue 34 where Thanos comes back and explains to the Surfer that the universe is imbalanced and that he needs to return that balance by killing off half the universe. It's a great issue, one of my favorite Thanos comics. If they are using that story as the basis behind his motive in Infinity War, then I'm fine with it.

You are indeed thinking of when Thanos was resurrected by Death in the Silver Surfer, which led to Thanos Quest, which led to Infinity Gauntlet

 

[KINGTHANOS]

New information regarding Thanos revealed by Josh Brolin. He confirms flashbacks to Thanos' childhood and that he's depicted (similarly to his comic counterpart) as an outcast of his race, deformed and different from the rest of his family. He goes as far as to compare Thanos to the likes of Quasimodo or the main character of "Perfume". This sounds very convincing.

And there we have it, people were jumping to conclusions just like I thought. He's still a deviant and depicted as a monster from his race. He's still Starlin Thanos, they just tweaked a couple things to make him a bit more relatable in his quest.

 

[jaqua99]

And there we have it, people were jumping to conclusions just like I thought. He's still a deviant and depicted as a monster from his race. He's still Starlin Thanos, they just tweaked a couple things to make him a bit more relatable in his quest.

Yup. Blows my mind that people want Thanos to be cold and badass. Thanos cares for something? BS!!

Thanos is VERY emotional and is very deep. He is nihhilistic, and saddistic but he is still very emotional.

He isn't a cold blooded killer. He's a sad, existential killer

 

[KINGTHANOS]

Yup. Blows my mind that people want Thanos to be cold and badass. Thanos cares for something? BS!!

Thanos is VERY emotional and is very deep. He is nihhilistic, and saddistic but he is still very emotional.

He isn't a cold blooded killer. He's a sad, existential killer

Absolutely. He's 100% shaped by his upbringing and became a nihilist and philosophical wonderer of sorts from that. Yes, at times he kills and seems to enjoy it, but it's more because he's beyond seeing the taking of lives as a sin, because the greater sin would be leaving the universe as a whole unchecked.

 

[jaqua99]

Absolutely. He's 100% shaped by his upbringing and became a nihilist and philosophical wonderer of sorts from that. Yes, at times he kills and seems to enjoy it, but it's more because he's beyond seeing the taking of lives as a sin, because the greater sin would be leaving the universe as a whole unchecked.

Yup, and at the end of the day, it's all about him and his existential flaws. Even his love for Death, it's all about him, and finding something that gives him purpose in a justified concept. Be it romance with death, destruction, battle for the hell of it, his brotherhood and love for Warlock, or just simply doong something because he can. It's all for a psychotically, yet vulnerable personal purpose.

Which is what some people don't seem to get about his relationship with death and why it is tricky to make it work on screen. It isn't about romance, it isn't about love for a woman. That's not what his infatuation with Death his about. Both conceptually, narratively, and even symbolically, it is so much more but it is still about Thanos. Everything Thanos does is about Thanos and FOR Thanos, even him doing things for "death". When people really dive into the character, I think they can finally understand why some of us object to using death in the movie as a motive if the motive is purely romantic.

Especially with all that is coming out about Thanos now.

 

[Sawyer]

It's just nice to see Bruce Willis putting some effort back into his work again...

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Yup. Blows my mind that people want Thanos to be cold and badass. Thanos cares for something? BS!!

Thanos is VERY emotional and is very deep. He is nihhilistic, and saddistic but he is still very emotional.

He isn't a cold blooded killer. He's a sad, existential killer

Being sensitive and caring about something is seen as weak in the geek community. They want their heroes and villains to be emotionally closed off.

 

[Aximili86]

Yup. Blows my mind that people want Thanos to be cold and badass. Thanos cares for something? BS!!

Wow, talk about an oversimplification.

He can be both complex and evil at the same time. The concern here was that they'd lean too far in the other direction and have him relatable but play down his beyond-the-pale vicious insanity. Like he's doing it for a good reason, objectively, rather than being bat**** insane by any reasonable person's standards but he himself thinking he has a point.

The Brolin comments quash a lot of those fears (he's still going to be bananaballs looney insane wackadoodles), but they came out after people were complaining/concerned.

Chill, champ.

Nobody wants Thanos to just be some blunt-force-trauma thug alone, sans intelligence.

 

[jaqua99]

Wow, talk about an oversimplification.

He can be both complex and evil at the same time. The concern here was that they'd lean too far in the other direction and have him relatable but play down his beyond-the-pale vicious insanity. Like he's doing it for a good reason, objectively, rather than being bat**** insane by any reasonable person's standards but he himself thinking he has a point.

The Brolin comments quash a lot of those fears (he's still going to be bananaballs looney insane wackadoodles), but they came out after people were complaining/concerned.

Chill, champ.

Nobody wants Thanos to just be some blunt-force-trauma thug alone, sans intelligence.

Of course it is an over simplification, that was the point of that comment lol. Tongue in cheek, if you will.

I get it. He is my favorite character in all of comics, so that's just how I sort of feel about him, and I love talking about him

 

[Marvel united]

Yup, and at the end of the day, it's all about him and his existential flaws. Even his love for Death, it's all about him, and finding something that gives him purpose in a justified concept. Be it romance with death, destruction, battle for the hell of it, his brotherhood and love for Warlock, or just simply doong something because he can. It's all for a psychotically, yet vulnerable personal purpose.

Which is what some people don't seem to get about his relationship with death and why it is tricky to make it work on screen. It isn't about romance, it isn't about love for a woman. That's not what his infatuation with Death his about. Both conceptually, narratively, and even symbolically, it is so much more but it is still about Thanos. Everything Thanos does is about Thanos and FOR Thanos, even him doing things for "death". When people really dive into the character, I think they can finally understand why some of us object to using death in the movie as a motive if the motive is purely romantic.

Especially with all that is coming out about Thanos now.

Good point. The Russos understand the core of Thanos better than most modern writers.

 

[Wildcard]

I can't get over how utterly amazing Thanos looks. Some people have their complaints but honestly, I think he looks just fine as is and can't wait to see him fully in action.

 

[HammerDown]

 

[Aximili86]

Any theories on which world those shots are supposed to be? The soldiers look pretty sweet.

Does look like the armored-up look for Thanos is probably going to be purely flashback stuff, too.

 

[ctsketch]

Any theories on which world those shots are supposed to be? The soldiers look pretty sweet.

Does look like the armored-up look for Thanos is probably going to be purely flashback stuff, too.

Thanos taking Gamora from her homeworld and killing all her people?

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

I take it this is when Thanos destory's Gamora's world and 'adopts' her?

 

[HammerDown]