Infinity War "I Will Bathe The Starways In Your Blood!" The Thanos / Josh Brolin Thread - Part 1

[Chief275]

Also to add to something I posted earlier - Thanos is what Apocalypse should have been.

 

[Filmfan93]

Also to add to something I posted earlier - Thanos is what Apocalypse should have been.

More or less, yeah.

For me, Thanos is what Ultron from the AoU trailers should have been.

 

[Mjölnir]

Magneto is an excellent villain in the way that Thanos tries to be - we can empathize with Magneto and understand his motivations for what he does. It's easy to see why he feels the way he feels and because of that his actions are justified. With Thanos, they tried to create that same level of motivation/determination in the history of Titan and what happened. however, with all the powers of the universe, couldnt he just as easily create new planets, new resources, new technology to allow populations to thrive without genocide? For Magneto, he didnt think humans would ever understand him or accept him, because he had seen first hand what being an outcast looked like.

They aren't quite the same.

Spoiler

Magneto has become much of that which he hated, while Thanos actually tries to make sure that the horror that befell his planet won't happen all over the universe. Where Magneto is blind to the good aspects of humanity Thanos has seen how life in the universe just continues on the same path as on Titan, so he chooses what he thinks is the greater good, and while he struggles with the choice his determination to do what he thinks is right ultimately prevails.

As for his power, I don't think he has that much power. When he snaps his fingers the Gauntlet gets severely damaged. We don't know to what extent but it looked to be in bad shape from that power output. I think that's a very clear indication of that the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't make you omnipotent like in the comics, which I think is a good thing as it makes it easier for the story to make sense.

 

[kguillou]

I'm in awe of Thanos. I think he could be an easy contender against Heath for bext CBM villain of all time. He looked incredible, had menacing presence and Josh Brolin played him impeccably. Every time he was onscreen I was like "omg, whats gonna happen now..?" which is the feeling a good movie villain should give you.

My only complaint, and this is a nitpick, I wish that Silvestri gave him his own Darth Vader-esque recurring theme.

 

[Chief275]

They aren't quite the same.

Spoiler

Magneto has become much of that which he hated, while Thanos actually tries to make sure that the horror that befell his planet won't happen all over the universe. Where Magneto is blind to the good aspects of humanity Thanos has seen how life in the universe just continues on the same path as on Titan, so he chooses what he thinks is the greater good, and while he struggles with the choice his determination to do what he thinks is right ultimately prevails.

As for his power, I don't think he has that much power. When he snaps his fingers the Gauntlet gets severely damaged. We don't know to what extent but it looked to be in bad shape from that power output. I think that's a very clear indication of that the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't make you omnipotent like in the comics, which I think is a good thing as it makes it easier for the story to make sense.

Great points.

Spoiler

I think the ending with him sitting on the porch, watching the sunrise showed that he is not as inherently evil as he seems, he accomplished his goal and was ready to retire, so to speak.

 

[thewoo]

I'm in awe of Thanos. I think he could be an easy contender against Heath for bext CBM villain of all time. He looked incredible, had menacing presence and Josh Brolin played him impeccably. Every time he was onscreen I was like "omg, whats gonna happen now..?" which is the feeling a good movie villain should give you.

My only complaint, and this is a nitpick, I wish that Silvestri gave him his own Darth Vader-esque recurring theme.

For some reason I just imagined Thanos coming out of his portal to classical music

 

[hitmanyr2k]

Magneto is an excellent villain in the way that Thanos tries to be - we can empathize with Magneto and understand his motivations for what he does. It's easy to see why he feels the way he feels and because of that his actions are justified. With Thanos, they tried to create that same level of motivation/determination in the history of Titan and what happened. however, with all the powers of the universe, couldnt he just as easily create new planets, new resources, new technology to allow populations to thrive without genocide? For Magneto, he didnt think humans would ever understand him or accept him, because he had seen first hand what being an outcast looked like.

Not everyone is wired the same way. Thanos clearly had the "addition by subtraction" philosophy that got him booted out of Titan in the first place.

 

[Iceman]

I like both young and old iterations of Magneto and theyre played almost equally well as each other so id consider them the same (and the fact they are meant to be the same person anyway).

But right now, Joker Magneto and Thanos make up my trinity as the best movie comic book supervillains by a distance.

Yeah sounds right.

 

[terry78]

Thanos is probably one of the most complex villains ever, thanks to Starlin's writing. You seriously do get why he does what he does via inner monologue and his own conversations. And they captured it here, as did Brolin's delivery.

 

[mustapantteri]

Not everyone is wired the same way. Thanos clearly had the "addition by subtraction" philosophy that got him booted out of Titan in the first place.

Exactly. They called him the Mad Titan because of his unique philosophy. Also, even if he decided to create more resources for the universe, how much more is considered enough? Everyone has different needs and greediness knows no bounds; there will never be enough resources for the ever-growing population.

 

[Travesty]

I'm in awe of Thanos. I think he could be an easy contender against Heath for bext CBM villain of all time. He looked incredible, had menacing presence and Josh Brolin played him impeccably. Every time he was onscreen I was like "omg, whats gonna happen now..?" which is the feeling a good movie villain should give you.

My only complaint, and this is a nitpick, I wish that Silvestri gave him his own Darth Vader-esque recurring theme.

I think Thanos is easily more scary and brutal than Heath's Joker. Just a more fleshed out, and all around better interpretation of the villain to screen, IMO. I was saying last night, that I think Thanos is already one of the best villains in cinematic history. His presence alone builds tension, unlike what you see with something like Heath's Joker, or even Darth Vader, where a lot of it was due to the score. And not to say that's a bad thing, but Thanos alone is just a brutal character. Love what they did with him.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think while we can debate Thanos vs Joker and such for years on end, one thing is clear: Thanos is a villain that will be remembered like Vader and such. Well done Marvel.

 

[Travesty]

For me, Thanos and Vader are pretty much neck and neck.

And Vader has been my #1 for most of my life.

 

[LvtLeeTDK]

I think while we can debate Thanos vs Joker and such for years on end, one thing is clear: Thanos is a villain that will be remembered like Vader and such. Well done Marvel.

I think because they're both the best and lead villians of the most popular franchise at their times.

The Joker will be remembered as much as those 2, but merely based on the performance and character himself.

 

[P Supreme]

I'm in awe of Thanos. I think he could be an easy contender against Heath for bext CBM villain of all time. He looked incredible, had menacing presence and Josh Brolin played him impeccably. Every time he was onscreen I was like "omg, whats gonna happen now..?" which is the feeling a good movie villain should give you.

My only complaint, and this is a nitpick, I wish that Silvestri gave him his own Darth Vader-esque recurring theme.

sad to hear he doesn't one the of things that don't get talked about Heath Ledger's Joker was his accompanying theme everytime you heard that theme you knew movie was about got serious also with Bane in TDKR

 

[parkerpete]

The Russos really nailed the unstoppability of Thanos. His slow march towards Wanda & Vision at the end, just wrecking anyone who came near him, was so intimidating and filled with dread for the characters. He didn't feel like an effect. He felt massive.

 

[Bim]

The Russos really nailed the unstoppability of Thanos. His slow march towards Wanda & Vision at the end, just wrecking anyone who came near him, was so intimidating and filled with dread for the characters. He didn't feel like an effect. He felt massive.

Agreed. This was the sequence where i had my hand over my open mouth and thinking: "Oh no, oh no, Oh NO!"

 

[The Endless]

They nailed him. Truly one of the most imposing and formidable villains put to the screen. And the quieter moments really highlight Brolin's talents.

 

[The Endless]

I liked how he did "retire" so to speak once the job was done. He was true to his word, unlike Killmonger, who ultimately wanted to rule. Thanos had no desire to rule.

 

[chamber-music]

Magneto is an excellent villain in the way that Thanos tries to be - we can empathize with Magneto and understand his motivations for what he does. It's easy to see why he feels the way he feels and because of that his actions are justified. With Thanos, they tried to create that same level of motivation/determination in the history of Titan and what happened. however, with all the powers of the universe, couldnt he just as easily create new planets, new resources, new technology to allow populations to thrive without genocide? For Magneto, he didnt think humans would ever understand him or accept him, because he had seen first hand what being an outcast looked like.

Thanos would have to constantly be creating more and more resources to cater to the ever expanding populace.

Also Thanos whole philosophy is a ying and yang balance type deal. He believes in 'balancing the universe'.

MCU Thanos thinking is similar to the comic version of Batman villain Ra's al Ghul whose ultimate goal is a world in perfect environmental balance. Ra's believes that the best way to achieve this balance is to eliminate most of humanity.

 

[The Big G]

I liked how he did "retire" so to speak once the job was done. He was true to his word, unlike Killmonger, who ultimately wanted to rule. Thanos had no desire to rule.

Spoiler

The Avengers are gunna spend all of the next movie searching for Thanos and when they find him he's just gunna be sitting on his porch sippin lemonade watching his crops grow with a smile on his face

 

[terry78]

I did realize that final scene was an allusion to him [

Spoiler

] becoming a ****ing farmer.

] lol

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Thanos' final shot is straight out of the ending of the [BLACKOUT]Infinity Gauntlet comic.[/BLACKOUT] The context is different though [BLACKOUT](he is defeated there and concedes the stones to Adam Warlock, but here its a mic drop after winning)[/BLACKOUT].

 

[Batmannerism]

Also to add to something I posted earlier - Thanos is what Apocalypse should have been.

Yes ! Apocalypsevillain is a villain with enormous gravitas, but was so underwhelming in XMA.

Thanos is a huge success, the first completely developed villain in any cbm - I think he's a serious challenges for Ledger's Joker's crown - perhaps the difference being that a live action performance is easier to relate to than CGI.

Having said that, Thanos had a lot of depth - even more than Hela, who I think was Marvel's best villain ( Loki's more of a frenemy) so far.

This was totally his film - which I think the directors expressly acknowledge with their

Spoiler

"Thanos will return" at the end of the credits

 

[StormC]

Well, it was a nice two months for Killmonger being the best MCU villain.