The Dark Knight Rises Ideas For Incorporating Characters Into the Nolanverse

[Hole Shot]

I don't want to attempt myself but rather suggest a character let the creativity minds here run with it.

So first suggestion - Maxie Zeus.

 

[CaptainClown]

simple, make him basically a mix of Obadiah Stane and Lucius Fox.

 

[sabetoonth]

they could go with a similar route to the batman, a multimillionaire obsessed with greek culture and myth.and give him a messiahmplex

 

[sabetoonth]

any body lis.. i mean reading this, post something!
and anither idea for maxie zeus is a former olympian(olymoic games) who did more than just when in greece yada yada and is trying his own version of the mob

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

That last post made no sense. I wouldn't mind to see Maxie Zeus, but he's definitely not my first choice for a villain in the Nolan-verse. Personally, I like Mad Hatter, Black Mask, Anarky, Dr. Destiny, Clayface, etc.
Just villains we haven't seen much of...I mean look at what begins did for Scarecrow and Ras. Neither was huge in the public eye, but now they seem to be more well known. That's what the lesser known villains need to become as iconic as some of the better knowns.

 

[Melkay]

Personally, I like Mad Hatter, Black Mask, Anarky, Dr. Destiny, Clayface, etc.
Just villains we haven't seen much of...I mean look at what begins did for Scarecrow and Ras. Neither was huge in the public eye, but now they seem to be more well known...

Deja vu. And here we go again Do you know the thing that went like "if a lie is big ebough and repeated enough times, people will buy it"? Well, you remind me of Hitler sometimes.

Just a reminder. I still love you.

 

[CaptainClown]

Rahs, Scarecrow and clay face are kind of big characters so naturally they would be introduced before a character like Anarky or Dr. Destiny...


I do want to see matches malone though haha.

 

[Melkay]

If I were doing The Penguin and he were a main villain, I would want him exciting but still more realistic then Burton's. He would be a sicko still but also one who loved his rich tastes. Kind of a high bred between the 2 interpretations.

I would make him short, fat, greasy, extremely ugly and constantly eating those little herrings out of the can giving him a fish smell. He keeps tons of birds, (and if you want to get real freakish he even feeds some of them like a mother bird to a baby bird). He does have a few trick umbrellas, none that can fly or anything but maybe one with a machine gun or flame thrower.

Despite all the weirdness of this guy, he would be surrounded by beautiful women, drink bloody mary's and smoke expensive cigars. Basically the theme would be the true power of money. The character is so rich, that despite being extremely grotesque he can still live the high life and no one can tell him a thing. This would be my model.

Without the grotesquerie (I'm a more subtle guy) I find that hitting the nail with the Penguin. If his character is used, he must be set as an example of vast riches and intense greed and how he can be still and member of the elite.

A character like that makes me wonder why would we ever need Blackmask.

 

[sabetoonth]

i have an idea for batzarro, it would be really different from a moron without eye holes in the cowl.

a member of the league of shadows goes rogue and takes up batman's job while bruce is off somehere on business and he goes farther than bruce ever would , even torture of the citezens that could help just to get any information, visually any of the nolan batsuits or a new one with either no logo or a regular and a thin fabric so it looks like empty eye sockets or something and he goes sans cape.


to clarify my earlier post is a guy who is obsessed with greek culture and myth and starts to truy and rebuild the mob under the alias zeus.

 

[Ibn]

That last post made no sense. I wouldn't mind to see Maxie Zeus, but he's definitely not my first choice for a villain in the Nolan-verse. Personally, I like Mad Hatter, Black Mask, Anarky, Dr. Destiny, Clayface, etc.
Just villains we haven't seen much of...I mean look at what begins did for Scarecrow and Ras. Neither was huge in the public eye, but now they seem to be more well known. That's what the lesser known villains need to become as iconic as some of the better knowns.

You won't get them without Nolan completely changing what makes them them. No way in hell we'll ever get Clayface in a Nolan movie.

 

[sabetoonth]

you may have to change somethings from their modern interpretations like clayface's shapeshiftering but in his first appearance he's snaps when he finds out there is going to be a remake of one of his movies, the terror, he puts on a mask that is used by the films killer, Clayface, and kills the cast and crew of the remake. i think that would work very well in the nolanverse.
so waht about my idea for batzarro?

 

[ScarecrowMan666]

Deja vu. And here we go again Do you know the thing that went like "if a lie is big ebough and repeated enough times, people will buy it"? Well, you remind me of Hitler sometimes.

Just a reminder. I still love you.

Hitler was a tactical genius, so I'll take that as a compliment. t:

But it's ok, cuz you're Melkay, and you can say things like that.

 

[Melkay]

Hitler was a tactical genius, so I'll take that as a compliment. t:

But it's ok, cuz you're Melkay, and you can say things like that.

Say that to the german generals who kept saying to him they shouldn't stay so long in the Russian front and sieging Stalingrad.

Say that to Rommel and the aid he never got to repel the british in North Africa.

Hitler was a fanatical ack who happened to demand extreme loyalty from his officers.... and happened to lead an invasion into Europe that the French and the British had no intention to stop at the beginning... as long as he tried to bring Stalin down, whatever.
It reminds me of: "one man or the entire mob? he can wait.".

My point is... to keep doing the same thing over and over again in the same way with the same poor results...
...... awful tactics.

But you're right about something. I can say things like that. t:

 

[Texas Zombie]

I watch A clockwork Orange and bam every time I think Riddler(Alex Delarge).

 

[sabetoonth]

somebody give me feedback i feel rejected again. batzarro any one seriously i could think of some ways for him to work.

 

[CaptainClown]

batzarro?

Just do an extreme Brian Douglas of an actually pretty decent Batman who is going around the city killing people feeling that he is capable of doing so. Make him an Arkham patient who was warped because of Crane and thinks he is the true Batman despite the fact he is killing people and to note the WRONG people.

 

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Batzarro

 

[CaptainClown]

You could also use him to frame the two-face murders on if you do make him a main character. He could also make the GCPD hate Batman more because of the reports of the batman dropping people off buildings and so forth.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I want to see Bane in the next movie. He's the one character I think would really fit into the thematic progression of the trilogy.
1. Fear
2. Madness
3. Power

I would like to see an almost Noman's Land-style division of Gotham between crime familes and freaks. Bane rises from hired help to become one of these leaders. Batman is wrestling with ideas like the sonar machine from TDK to help him control the city and becomes a conflict between protecting Gotham and ruling Gotham.

I think a manipulative Riddler, while a good idea, is too much like the Joker's role in TDK.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Yea I like Bane for the next movie aswell. He could be a truly great villain, as long as they don't make him like some brain dead lump like in BnR

 

[Ronny Shade]

Exactly.

 

[Ronny Shade]

I was thinking Dalip Signh with Olmos's voice.

 

[DarkReflections]

1. Black Mask: Along with Rachel, Bruce knew Roman Sionis when he was a kid. Roman is introduced when he attends Rachel's funeral. The False Face Society could have already started, making it so that Black Mask was recruiting thugs during the time that that Gotham Tonight special on wierd criminal forces, that referenced joker, came out making him one of the thugs AMH's character was talking about. Janus Cosmetics could have been one of the shares that Bruce bought in BB, so that in BB3 we see either a flashback about Bruce buying it from Roman or whatever. Either that or a sub plot in the movie is that Bruce helps out Roman when he hears that Janus Cosmetics is going bankrupt being more faithful to the comics.

2. The Riddler: Give a Zodiac edge to him. That can make him seem realistic and yet still make him narcissistic when he taunts the police with his messages. Dont make his real last name, "Nygma", make his real last name "Nashton", and he changes it to Nygma when he starts making money when he goes on game shows. Eventually he's on one of the special edition shows where its both him and Bruce Wayne, so that the money either goes with Edward "Nygma" the undefeated champion or Bruce so that it goes to the charity's Bruce supports. Edward Nygma is found out by Bruce to have cheated and is disqualified. Nashton wants revenge against Bruce so he sends threatening messages to him anonymously under a false name like E. Nygma, or Mr. Riddle or some other name so that eventually in the newspapers he is finally called: The Riddler. Eventually he somehow manages to find out that Bruce is Bats and holds it over his head so that the crime wave of The Riddler can go up, and the strange riddles he either sends to the police or leaves at a crime scene which at the end by piecing them all up says that Batman is Bruce Wayne.

 

[cerealkiller182]

Everyone seems concerned with making Riddler threatening but I dont want to see him made into a serial killer a la zodiac. Gotham has a closet full of skeletons. The Riddler should be a blackmailer and identity thief. Its a different kind of terrorism and a different kind of paranoia than the Joker presented. Batman having his own secrets would also be a target. After outwitting him so many times the Riddler would set his sights on Batman. This would fix the fact that Batman hasnt really been presented as the smartest guy in the room yet (smarter than most, but not the factoid spouting detective type seen in Riddler stories) that way Riddler would have a motivation to outsmart Bats. I think that this is kinda thin but an appropriate way to present the Riddler as well as create a threat that could rival the Joker. Because its so thin i think the much talked about FBI angle can be associated with this giving Riddler access to government databases and what-not.

 

[sabetoonth]

see he cwork it just took enough effort to say so

but what do you think of my idea a rogue league of shadows member who tries helping bats but goes so far as to torture innocent people to find out anyhting on a criminal.