The Dark Knight Rises Ideas For Incorporating Characters Into the Nolanverse

An idea I just had. Figure I throw it out there.

The Riddler: A conspiracy nut trying to out Dent as Two-Face. Maybe not enough meat for a whole movie though
 
If you have watched the dark knight enough it is possible for twoface not to be dead. Seriously, it would be very easy to have him not be dead. I've watched tdk since it came out, saw it 4 times in theaters, and watch it every time it's on hbo, starz, or any other non cable channel. They never specify that he is dead, they just hint at it.

The reason i think they left Harvey fate so ambiguous is because they were not sure if they wanted to continue using the character for batman 3.
 
Jason Bard. I'm obsessed, I know.

Have something that needs investigating, but Batman can't afford to look into it by himself, too recognizable out of costume (and in costume) to do so, so he hires Bard to do it for him.

While I am for this idea, I would prefer to see Bruce as Matches Malone to do his investigating.
 
If you have watched the dark knight enough it is possible for twoface not to be dead. Seriously, it would be very easy to have him not be dead. I've watched tdk since it came out, saw it 4 times in theaters, and watch it every time it's on hbo, starz, or any other non cable channel. They never specify that he is dead, they just hint at it.

The reason i think they left Harvey fate so ambiguous is because they were not sure if they wanted to continue using the character for batman 3.

He's dead. Eckhart said hes dead. They had a memorial. His body sat their lifeless. People kept saying it was ambiguous, but it really wasnt. I mean how much did we really need to see? Dent on an operating table with his chest open from an autopsy? An open casket funeral and then the same casket being lowered into the grave? Even then people are still going to rationalize Dent being alive. I would really hate to see the amazing character arc of TDK to end up being a weaker version of the Punisher.
 
Actually eckhart recently said that he and Nolan had been in talks, and he is not even sure at this moment. He would love to reprise the role.
It is very possible for him to be alive.

Look up Aaron Eckhart conan o brien interview on YouTube.

P.s. I am for the recast of joker, lots of people have died while filming movies, usually they recast him, Nolan can take it, after doing inception he should be able to make a clear decision.

what stories would you guys like to be used as a basis(knightfall, hush, longhalloween, and so on,these are just examples).
 
Nolan could feasibly bring Two-Face back but if he did it would be going against what he already setup, not to mention be a very contrived and cliched move. I respect Nolan too much to think he would really do that.

While I am for this idea, I would prefer to see Bruce as Matches Malone to do his investigating.
I'd like to see that as well. There were a few short scenes in Begins that had Bruce in disguise doing detective work before he announced his return, Malone would be an extension of that.
 
No he means batman, in every interpretation of batman he still has his humanity, and since nolans version is really long halloweeny, I think it would be fitting if he became a little bit more calm and collected, he needs to be shown as extremely smart(I believe nolans batman is, but his emotions cloud his judgment).

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To be honest: Burton's Batman is closer to The Long Halloween than Nolan's.
 
The whole Gothic design, Bruce/Selina relationship and ... Batman and Bruce Wayne's behaviour is a lot like the Burton version. Almost shy, reserved, outsider-like as Bruce Wayne and violent as Batman.

Bale's Batman is way more extroverted and his Batman is not nearly as violent.
 
Batman certainly did not kill people in TLH, and I wouldn't necessarily call the style Gothic either. The similarities you gave for Bruce Wayne are a stretch as well, since Bruce was barely in the comic enough to read him as an outsider. And besides, Bales's Bruce is just as reserved, it's his public Bruce Wayne persona that is the extrovert.
 
TLH didn't show the outspoken playboy in the public Bruce. Nor did it have an aggressive, talkative, and loud Batman.
 
SIMILAR. Not exactly alike.

TLH is more like the Burton movies. IMO. You know. I know that they claimed that BB was based on TLH, but I just cannot see it.
 
TLH is more like the Burton movies. IMO. You know. I know that they claimed that BB was based on TLH, but I just cannot see it.
They claimed that TDK was inspired (in part) by TLH. Begins was based (in part) on Year One.
 
TLH is NOTHING like Batman 1989...AT ALL.

I've already given you some examples (also counting Batman Returns)

In fact, TLH is nothing like TDK/BB. It's all different. I'm not talking about the story. I'm talking about the characterizations, mood and so on.
 
Watching TDK you can see scenes that are basically ripped straight from The Long Halloween and Dark Victory.
 
Draft Two - Part One

Over the course of the next few weeks I'm going to update my story ideas.

Roman Sionis - Black Mask

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In the comics, Roman Sionis was born into one of Gotham’s wealthiest families, the owners of Janus Cosmetics. After the death of his parents Sionis inherited his family’s business and then proceeded to run it into the ground. He was eventually bailed out when Bruce Wayne bought his company, but feeling disgraced, Sionis became Black Mask and attempted to murder several Wayne Enterprises employees.

Combining a mob boss and a "freak" would create the escalation we need for the third chapter in Chris Nolan's crime epic storyline.

After the "accidental" death of his parents, Sionis inherits everything and decides to use his resources to take total control of the two things he desires most, Wayne Enterprises and Gotham City. Set one year after the events in The Dark Knight, Sionis would serve as the film's central villain. Using a dual identity much the way Bruce Wayne does, Sionis appears to be the squeaky clean industrialist who rivals Lucius Fox for Wayne Enterprises, only secretly to be known as Black Mask, a murdering sadist who controls the largest gang of organized crime in the history of Gotham, The False Face Society.

My casting choice is Matthew Goode (The Lookout, Watchmen). In Watchmen, Goode was handsome and charismatic on the surface, while secretly counseling his true nature... sound like someone else you've heard of?
 
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I don't think Black Mask would work, only because the first two movies dealt heavily with the mob and after TDK, the mob is almost non existent. The third movie will deal more with Batman vs. the GPD, rather than him against criminals. A third, independent villain could appear, say someone like Firefly or Deadshot, but it most likely won't be a simple mob style criminal.
 
I don't think Black Mask would work, only because the first two movies dealt heavily with the mob and after TDK, the mob is almost non existent. The third movie will deal more with Batman vs. the GPD, rather than him against criminals. A third, independent villain could appear, say someone like Firefly or Deadshot, but it most likely won't be a simple mob style criminal.

God, I hope not that would make for one terrible Batman film. Besides making Batman the main villian won't sell well.

I think black mask would be prefect in Nolan batman movie

Thank you. :cwink:
 
I personally think it would deal with batman and gordons complex relationship, with batman on the run, gordan continues to feed him tips.

I wish they would bring back the joker, but it probably wont happen.
 
I hope they bring back Joker as well. In an ideal world, Ledger would still be alive and well and able to reprise the role. However, he is not. So I think they should recast the role. So long as who ever takes on the role is as good as Ledger, I don't see there being a problem.
 
The problem I see is acceptance from the audience (the whole audience not comic book fans) with the idea that this is the new Joker. As well as, does it serve a part in the story? Will the Joker be vital to the story or just in there to be in there. A problem with including him is that it could be interpreted as trying to top The Dark Knight by bringing back its main attraction. I feel that this would not go well with general audiences as they will see it as striving to beat their box office standings and ultimately just be a bad decision.
 

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