If you laughed at the crying then you probably....

[FNSpidey]

I guess I'm just an evil person then.

"How's your pie?" - Waitress

"Sooo Goood..." - Carnage-Cometh

Nah, you just lack a proper sense of humour.

That's why people laughed at the bridge. If they laughed at Harry dying, don't know, can't really excuse that, probably emotionally insecure.

Yet that's exactly what happened at my (and others' as I've heard) theater.

 

[terry78]

We laugh to hide our own issues. And when we're with other people, we don't want to get emotional.

 

[FNSpidey]

We laugh to hide our own issues. And when we're with other people, we don't want to get emotional.

Too true...

 

[timopictures]

Tony Stark… Could you be any more pretentious? Do you really think there are any people going through life without having to experience pain or loss or love? To suggest that some people weren’t mature enough to handle the scenes is just ridiculous. What about Lifetime movies? Are people just not mature enough to handle those either? You’re an idiot for making this thread.

 

[CARNAGE-COMETH]

We laugh to hide our own issues. And when we're with other people, we don't want to get emotional.

I agree with you completely on that but too me honestly I find just the face absolutely funny and Im not hiding anything.

He just looks crappy and weird there I want to slap him lol and say man up.

He also looks like he is taking a dump.

 

[Carnotaur3]

I don't get why people find this funny either. I've seen people cry over death and whatnot. People do make faces like Tobey does. That's real emotion. That's real crying. It's not a stupid tear down the face... it's the face itself. And actors have to go to a deep part of themselves to pull off that crying and it's obvious Tobey did it.

Some people need to grow up.

 

[Tony Stark]

Tony Stark… Could you be any more pretentious? Do you really think there are any people going through life without having to experience pain or loss or love? To suggest that some people weren’t mature enough to handle the scenes is just ridiculous. What about Lifetime movies? Are people just not mature enough to handle those either? You’re an idiot for making this thread.

I think there are some people especially younger people who haven't experienced true love or experienced death first hand. Not all but some. I think alot of them were the type of people who laugh at this stuff.

As someone said before, it's a maturity issue. I guess the mistake Rami made was assuming his audience was mature enough, to understand and sympathize with the characters.

 

[FNSpidey]

I think there are some people especially younger people who haven't experienced true love or experienced death first hand. Not all but some. I think alot of them were the type of people who laugh at this stuff.

As someone said before, it's a maturity issue. I guess the mistake Rami made was assuming his audience was mature enough, to understand and sympathize with the characters.

Well, at least in my theater, that's exactly the kind of people that laughed during those scenes. Annoying, immature, laughing-at-everything-because-we're-cool 18-year-olds...

I don't get why people find this funny either. I've seen people cry over death and whatnot. People do make faces like Tobey does. That's real emotion. That's real crying. It's not a stupid tear down the face... it's the face itself. And actors have to go to a deep part of themselves to pull off that crying and it's obvious Tobey did it.

Some people need to grow up.

That's what I'm saying. Since when is crying required to look composed and dignified? It usually looks ugly. And even if you find the expression weird, it's just a face! I thought people stop laughing at weird faces at the age of 5.

 

[Grinder]

The problem with the emotional parts in this movie were that they were badly forced without the necessary build up to make them meaningful!
The break-up and the dying scenes were just thrown in to give the overblown action a moment to rest. Why do you think alot of us feel that the characters were badly handled this time? It was way too crowded to connect with any character and sideplot before they died or "turned". That's why Peter's hit against MJ got applause, too. You can't pull of strong emotional moments in a cheesefest of a movie.

The other two movies had a lot of crying too (too much for my taste, btw) but -the reason why- worked better and resonated with the viewer.

 

[CARNAGE-COMETH]

The problem with the emotional parts in this movie were that they were badly forced without the necessary build up to make them meaningful!
The break-up and the dying scenes were just thrown in to give the overblown action a moment to rest. Why do you think alot of us feel that the characters were badly handled this time? It was way too crowded to connect with any character and sideplot before they died or "turned". That's why Peter's hit against MJ got applause, too. You can't pull of strong emotional moments in a cheesefest of a movie.

The other two movies had a lot of crying too (too much for my taste, btw) but -the reason why- worked better and resonated with the viewer.

I agree completely with this.

 

[FNSpidey]

The problem with the emotional parts in this movie were that they were badly forced without the necessary build up to make them meaningful!
The break-up and the dying scenes were just thrown in to give the overblown action a moment to rest. Why do you think alot of us feel that the characters were badly handled this time? It was way too crowded to connect with any character and sideplot before they died or "turned". That's why Peter's hit against MJ got applause, too. You can't pull of strong emotional moments in a cheesefest of a movie.

The other two movies had a lot of crying too (too much for my taste, btw) but -the reason why- worked better and resonated with the viewer.

I give you the break-up scene, although I don't find it too far-fetched or in need of a special explanation that somebody could choke up if the woman he loves leaves him.
But do you really think Harry was under-developed? Even in SM3 alone, his development was great (and Franco was excellent), not to mention the two previous films. Why is it so hard to connect with his character?

 

[jrd550]

A lot of people were laughing at the crying scene in the theatre, but I was choked up...

 

[Naite22]

It wasn't that the acting was bad, it was the idea of Peter crying over MJ was too melodramatic. She was with another guy for the duration of SM2 and all Peter did was look forlorn (a much better response to that kind of situation as well, imho). Not to mention he was in full self-centered dick mode by that time in the movie that the bridge scene takes place. So it comes as a completely out of character shock. Crying over Uncle Ben? Sweet. Crying over Harry? Totally sweet. Crying because MJ's breaking up with you? Get yourself together man, what have you been dating her for 5 seconds?!!

That's why people laughed at the bridge. If they laughed at Harry dying, don't know, can't really excuse that, probably emotionally insecure.

First of all, his response to MJ having a boyfriend in Spidey 2 was different, because they WEREN'T together at that point to begin with. It hurts Peter of course to see her with another guy. But seeing how they never really were together to begin with, and that it was Peter's own choice, WHY oh why should he then cry, nor react in the same way that he does in SM3?

Secondly, you might wanna pay closer attention next time you watch the movie, pal!... When Peter comes to meet MJ at the park, he's NOT wearing the symbiote, and is by no means a "self-centered dick", as you call him. He's also in a very wounarable state in that scene! He ****ed up, and MJ is all that keeps him going. He comes with flowers, thinking he's gonna kiss and make up. And then, out of the blue, she ditches him! He's devastated, and is taken completely off guard! He brakes up in a total desperate Peter Parker way! This sad little geek whom out of nowhere looses the one thing that truely keeps him afloat! It ****ing works!!! You really feel (or SHOULD feel) for him in that scene. If you truely understand what's happening in that scene, and really connect (as corny as it sounds!) to what Peter's feeling, I could never understand why one would see that as a melodramatic scene. It was a true desperate reflecs-reaction to what he thought he should never hear MJ say!

I dont care what you all think, it worked for me in an exstremely affective way.

 

[Cyrusbales]

I just found the portrayal of the sadness as unconvincing, not funny, just plain bad. Yes he should cry, but I wasn't convinced he was sad by maguire

 

[Naite22]

^ well, to each its own... I bought it though...

 

[Sloth7d]

But I think most people here laughs at the crying because of Tobey's face :S

D!

Pretty much.

 

[Cyrusbales]

^ well, to each its own... I bought it though...

Quite often in films, crying comes off badly, i think the most convincing one lately that has stuck in my mind was in the fountain. Then again, that film was miles above everything else recently and past even, so you gotta expect it really.

 

[BHD]

I didn't laugh because they cried. Believe me I understand what it's like to lose someone and what it's like to cry and get emotional. I laughed because I don't think Tobey did a good job acting in those scenes.

 

[Grinder]

I give you the break-up scene, although I don't find it too far-fetched or in need of a special explanation that somebody could choke up if the woman he loves leaves him.

Of course, but the problem here is the believeability of it. It's very similar to a recent "Smallville" plot were Lionel forced Lana into marrying Lex. But that made sense cause Lionel can actually kill Clark whenever he wants and protect himself from him with a little green K in his pocket.
But this here was just plain stupid. MJ could've just told Pete what was going on and he could've smacked Harry out of his shoes in a sec! MJ had nothing to fear from once she was with him. I just didn't buy into that scene and Tobey's sudden burst into tears seemed forced although I understand why one would react like that. It's more the problem of the build up to the whole scene that made it seem weird, like I explained.

But do you really think Harry was under-developed? Even in SM3 alone, his development was great (and Franco was excellent), not to mention the two previous films. Why is it so hard to connect with his character?

Not really, if anything, Harry is the only charatcer who really is build up good, but only to the moment the butler talks to him. That alone was just weird and the whole battle was way too short to "get into". He just suddenly jumps into the way, sacraficing himself (although he has his battle suit on and some pumpkin bombs or whatever gadget on him) and then it's all over!?

The second part of the movie just goes too fast to get into the drama mood. And again, Tobey's reaction maybe real when he cries but it's still meaningless if the whole build up and therefor the scene itself doesn't work for the viewer. Bad direction would be the fault for that.

 

[echostation]

Wow, some people are presumptous jack asses on this topic and you know who each of you are.

So what if people laughed? Don't be a fecktard and assume that every person who laughed hasn't dealt with hardshipped. I laughed my ass off at the bridge scene, why? because there was nothing to cry about and he was acting like such a baby there and it was truly ****tily and terribly acted. When it came to Harry's death then that was well done, the problem is the drama was inconsistent and there was honestly TOO much soap opera melodramatic acting (EXCEPT for harry's death where it actually meant something and was well acted on everyone's parts, especially Franco).

To me what became even far more emotional and complex and dynamically important was the initial subtlety the film had with Flint coming home to see his daughter... the look in his eyes, those moments of dead silence as he watches over her wanting to protect her alongside the final scene of Harry's death her had much greater impact to me than virtually every other bull**** acted sequence in the film.

Oh and for *****'s sakes... dont' be such high handed 2 cm cock-heads and presume that everyone who doesn't feel the drama hasn't dealt with hardship... when well done on film, it can be felt. if not, it's going to get laughed at... are you the type who feels so overly emotional and cries at every bloody romantic sad/comedy love story crap that Hollywood churns out all the time? Say you've cried or felt sad at EVERY SINGLE dramatic moment you've ever seen represented on film or on TV, go ahead... cuz i know if you claim it then you're even more full of *****.

Dealt with hardships? Son, go through even a quarter of what I've gone through and I'll call you a half-man... there's a reason for why I sometimes post such ridiculous things on the boards, it's cuz to have fun cuz i try to have as much fun given all that's happened. Try running away from a war leaving everything behind, family, friends, home, everything including your most treasured posessions... and of course, see your cousin who happens to be like a blood brother to you and your other cousin who is his sister get gunned in front of you in a zone of conflict when you all had plans to leave... See them fall, crack, break their bodies on Asian rock...

Don't even get me started on half of this ****... to those who have gone through hardships, my apologies to you all and bless those who you've loved and lost... but do not under any circumstance come on here and be bastard *******s to the Nth extreme and presume no one has dealt with stuff just because they didn't react how you wanted them to react to a film... if anything it makes you even more bloody immature and there's no two fecking ways about it? understand? good.

 

[FNSpidey]

Grinder,

First of all, let me congratulate you for intelligently criticizing the film and not going to the extremes most people here love to practise.

Of course, but the problem here is the believeability of it. It's very similar to a recent "Smallville" plot were Lionel forced Lana into marrying Lex. But that made sense cause Lionel can actually kill Clark whenever he wants and protect himself from him with a little green K in his pocket.
But this here was just plain stupid. MJ could've just told Pete what was going on and he could've smacked Harry out of his shoes in a sec! MJ had nothing to fear from once she was with him. I just didn't buy into that scene and Tobey's sudden burst into tears seemed forced although I understand why one would react like that. It's more the problem of the build up to the whole scene that made it seem weird, like I explained.

But Peter is not all-powerful and Harry seemed to have totally gone over the edge at that point. I mean, he grabbed MJ, one of his best friends, and smashed her against the wall. Maybe she thought letting the guys duke it out may not be the best idea. After all, MJ is still quite new in this super-hero everyday life. I find it worked.

Not really, if anything, Harry is the only charatcer who really is build up good, but only to the moment the butler talks to him. That alone was just weird and the whole battle was way too short to "get into". He just suddenly jumps into the way, sacraficing himself (although he has his battle suit on and some pumpkin bombs or whatever gadget on him) and then it's all over!?

The second part of the movie just goes too fast to get into the drama mood. And again, Tobey's reaction maybe real when he cries but it's still meaningless if the whole build up and therefor the scene itself doesn't work for the viewer. Bad direction would be the fault for that.

I think that's where the "buddy talk" that some people hate comes into play. To show that Pete's and Harry's feelings for each other are finally clear. To once again remind us of the relationship they had during the school years (standing up for each other) and end it on this note. Plus, the adrenaline had already died at that moment, with the previous scene of Pete forgiving Marko, so I didn't find it hard to get into the proper mood.

My humble opinion, of course.

 

[KappeiJin]

It's funny how die-hard fans try to make good an evidently failed scene.

Face it: the audience laughed!!!!

That means:

BAD

ACTING

It's a sin how opinions ruins facts.

 

[Tony Stark]

Wow, some people are presumptous jack asses on this topic and you know who each of you are.

So what if people laughed? Don't be a fecktard and assume that every person who laughed hasn't dealt with hardshipped. I laughed my ass off at the bridge scene, why? because there was nothing to cry about and he was acting like such a baby there and it was truly ****tily and terribly acted. When it came to Harry's death then that was well done, the problem is the drama was inconsistent and there was honestly TOO much soap opera melodramatic acting (EXCEPT for harry's death where it actually meant something and was well acted on everyone's parts, especially Franco).

To me what became even far more emotional and complex and dynamically important was the initial subtlety the film had with Flint coming home to see his daughter... the look in his eyes, those moments of dead silence as he watches over her wanting to protect her alongside the final scene of Harry's death her had much greater impact to me than virtually every other bull**** acted sequence in the film.

Oh and for *****'s sakes... dont' be such high handed 2 cm cock-heads and presume that everyone who doesn't feel the drama hasn't dealt with hardship... when well done on film, it can be felt. if not, it's going to get laughed at... are you the type who feels so overly emotional and cries at every bloody romantic sad/comedy love story crap that Hollywood churns out all the time? Say you've cried or felt sad at EVERY SINGLE dramatic moment you've ever seen represented on film or on TV, go ahead... cuz i know if you claim it then you're even more full of *****.

Dealt with hardships? Son, go through even a quarter of what I've gone through and I'll call you a half-man... there's a reason for why I sometimes post such ridiculous things on the boards, it's cuz to have fun cuz i try to have as much fun given all that's happened. Try running away from a war leaving everything behind, family, friends, home, everything including your most treasured posessions... and of course, see your cousin who happens to be like a blood brother to you and your other cousin who is his sister get gunned in front of you in a zone of conflict when you all had plans to leave... See them fall, crack, break their bodies on Asian rock...

Don't even get me started on half of this ****... to those who have gone through hardships, my apologies to you all and bless those who you've loved and lost... but do not under any circumstance come on here and be bastard *******s to the Nth extreme and presume no one has dealt with stuff just because they didn't react how you wanted them to react to a film... if anything it makes you even more bloody immature and there's no two fecking ways about it? understand? good.

I'm not referring to people such as yourself. I'm referring to the people using terms like "emo" and stuff like that, which is nothing but immature babble.

Neither am I suggesting that the portrayal of grief is anything like the real thing.

There are no absolutes in life and nothing is ever 100%, but the majority of people who laugh at this stuff are people who lack emotional maturity.

 

[Tony Stark]

It's funny how die-hard fans try to make good an evidently failed scene.

Face it: the audience laughed!!!!

That means:

BAD

ACTING

It's a sin how opinions ruins facts.

No the audience didn't laugh. Select immature dolts laughed. In my theater there were only a handfull of people who laughed.

 

[Cyrusbales]

people just looked uncomfortable in my theatre, liek....ohhhh, this should be better, it's a rather crappy piece of acting...