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DorkyFresh said:there've been many many documented accounts of afterlife experiences. one man was dead for 2 days and came back on the autopsy table with very vivid memories of his afterlife experience...
...if that doesn't prove that God exists then i don't know what does.
bluejake01 said:Yahweh is the Alpha and Omega...he KNOWS everything before it happens, according to popular Christian and Jewish mythology. If you have knowledge of the outcome of an action, and continue that action, you must therefore be responsible for that outcome. The only logic in such an action must be that there is some purpose served that makes what would appear to be an undesireable outcome, "worth" it.
Danalys said:your saying god can't predict creatures with free will or can't just see the future. couldn't he exist in all time frames and therefore know the future despite freewill.
Kessel Day said:i'm not saying that God can't foreknow matters. the Bible has prophesies in it which show that God can do so. what i'm saying is, that when it would be unjust or unloving to know something in advance, He can choose not to.
for example, just because one of those huge weightlifters can lift very heavy rocks, doesn't mean that he must lift every rock he sees. he has a choice. so does God.
the Bible says that humans are made in God's image. we obviously are not spirit creatures like He is, but we have some of His characteristics like the ability to love, to create things (symphonies & such), and to be able to choose.
God can choose to not know something if He desires.
GarudA said:I do not know whats more hilarious, the creationists or scientologists.
Kessel Day said:i'm devastated.
Danalys said:still not making sense to me. it's a god right so it could know the future without it effecting it's judgement of what to do. and if things did have to be changed knowing the future then it'd be remise not to. the only get out is that god doesn't do whats right for someother benefit like allowing humans to learn how to live themselves. and in that case we shouldn't ask god for guidance. we should learn from ours and others experiences.
DV8 said:I am the God of pu$$y!!!
Spider-X said:i thought something smelled fishy in here...how about you talk to the God of Hygene...
DV8 said:Coincidentally, I also manage the duties of the *****e God . . . .
wolfsfang said:For every arguement to prove God exists there is a counter arguement to prove he doesn't.
This is an unwinnable arguement and therefor totally pointless
Genesis 1.0 said:Totally Pointless.
You Don't Care.
Well damn, 10 pages when everyone else said just agree to disagree and you're still plugging away. I don't know about you, but when I don't really care about something, I don't invest this much time in it. Seems you're obsessed with having the last word on an issue you profess not to care about. You want proof for the existence of something you don't care about and people of faith, by it's very root is belief without need of proof. Again, what are you looking to gain from this?
You've got to be bored or just enjoy pushing people's buttons.
Thread # 1,020,345,6590 about the subject and not a damn thing's changed.