I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[Boom]

"We are working away right now!"
- Matt Reeves, 2024 - 2027

 

[emielaen]

I see Reeves responding to a lot of tweets about tonight’s showing.

Gonna need that man to slip up and post a casting announcement gif.

He accidently hits gif then just-so-happens to type in Jesse Plemons, what a mishap

 

[Boom]

He accidently hits gif then just-so-happens to type in Jesse Plemons, what a mishap

Manifest.

 

[Sawyer]

It’s kind of wild looking back on the pre-production phase of The Batman, because I genuinely didn’t know what we were in for.

As pumped as I am for the sequel, a tone has been set and, even while knowing no actual details, you can sort of make a vague estimation of what’s possible (and who would be a good fit with the casting we already have, looking at you Plemons). But before casting started rolling out on the first film, everything was unknown. I wasn’t keeping up that much with the Batman shortlists, so the Pattinson news took me completely by surprise. I had seen rumors that the film would feature multiple rogues and kind of thought to myself “Yeah, sure, I’ll bet,” but then those Catwoman/Riddler/Penguin castings dropped and I was just like…

Then that FanDome trailer hit and still managed to completely blind-side me with its vibes. What a time.

 

[OnLeatherWings]

I bought the AMC Batmobile cup, but on my way out I picked up the Bat-Signal popcorn bucket.

Not in my nature to buy such a thing, but it's a fun little item! It goes surprisingly well on a minimalist shelf with something else Batman related and the actual light function is way better than it should be.

Also, this may have been my favourite viewing of the film. I felt a lot more for it than I ever have before.

 

[Gothamsknight]

The fact that Pattinson was my fan cast months before it was even announced he got the part still boggles my mind. That's never happened to me before.

 

[Kane52630]

I was thinking about getting the Bat-Signal popcorn bucket but I'm good with The Batman bucket I already got.

 

[OnLeatherWings]

This is my first popcorn bucket - might be my last. But I love it. I'm tempted to paint it so it looks a worn gunmetal silver, but.

It fits in on my geek shelf in my office.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I remember when I was a kid my mom got me a Batman flashlight that was the bat signal, and that blew my mind. This is on a different level.

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Rick190293]

Sad I miss those tie-in games, even thought 99% of them were bad. Great memories of Begins one!

 

[J.Drangal]

Gunn certainly lives up to his name, shooting down rumors as fast as possible.

 

[OnLeatherWings]

My first thought when this got reported earlier is "there ain't no way."

It's not just that film tie-in games are dead; game development is super expensive and takes years and studios are really picky about what they put out. Tying a game series to an iteration that could lose favorability is a big risk. Not saying Reeves' Batman will lose favorability - but a game would come out in 2027 at the earliest and a lot can happen between now and then.

Much safer to do another Arkham-verse game where the developer is in full control of the iteration, characters, plot, style, etc. You'll get the Reeves Batman fans anyway with either approach - but you'll also get people who prefer less grounded versions of the characters, too.

Sad I miss those tie-in games, even thought 99% of them were bad. Great memories of Begins one!

Batman Begins (PS2/XB/GC) laid the groundwork for the Arkham series, and people need to acknowledge how important that game was. Laying the groundwork for a series that went on to influence nearly every 3rd person game going forward with combat mechanics alone is a big deal.

And the game is rock solid. The visuals were really cool and full of atmosphere. One of the best-looking tie-in games I can think of.

 

[Sawyer]

Oh…

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

If The Batman (and everything associated with it) is really truly its own thing independent of the DCU, why the Hell is Gunn continuing to speak for Matt Reeves? Especially since he's been actively back on Social Media?

Let him "debunk" Belloni's intel.

 

[Kane52630]

Continuity it's independent from the DCU but it's still funded and produced under the DC Studios company which Gunn and Safran are the co-CEOs. The new label for all the off shoot DC projects is "DC Elseworlds"

 

[Sawyer]

When you started writing the show, the Batman WGA arbitration happened. Now you’re back co-writing The Batman Part II. Clearly Matt Reeves loves working with you. Did being invited back mend any hurt feelings you had?

Yeah, I’ll be honest about it. It was a painful thing to have happen. I put a lot of time and a lot of heart in. I had a really, really great time working with Matt on that first movie. And when I got brought in, it was kind of said, “Look, we’re so late in this process that you’re probably not going to get credit.” So nobody did anything to me. I wasn’t screwed over. We ended up doing so much, not just on the third act, but then heightening things in the mystery, and the first two acts — that then there was kind of a moment of, “Oh, wait, maybe there’s a chance [I’ll get credit].” But that’s all that it was. And then my name got out there in public, which is always kind of a bad idea. So, then I’m associated with this thing.



So I found out the day that the Fandome trailer came out [in August 2020]. On the one hand, it was like, “Wow, there it is!” And on the other hand, it’s like, “…and I don’t have anything to do with this anymore.” And that was a little bit of a heartbreak, and there was a level of, dare I say, having to grow up and having to go, “You know what? They paid me. I’m a professional, so be a professional and try not to take that too hard.”

The day that the movie came out, [Matt Reeves] and I talked on the phone for an hour or two, and he was just talking about the process of making the movie, and I think just kind of processing the experience that he had had. And I had an impulse to go like, “OK, but are you going to ask me to do the sequel?” And I didn’t go there. Instead, it became very clear to me, he just wants to talk about what he’s just been through. So just be a good dude, be a good friend, celebrate that he still treating me like it’s something that I was a part of, because I was. And so just enjoy that. And it was about six weeks later that he called me and said, “So, sequel time. You want to do this all the way this time?”

There was such a tremendous emotional catharsis for me, because Batman means a ton to me. And I think that when you’re a writer, a director, a creator, you’re trying to do things that matter to you, but also that matter to audiences. And all the scary thoughts came. The imposter syndrome came, and the thoughts of, “Oh, am I going to be the footnote in a Wikipedia article of, ‘Oh yeah, he had something to do with that one, and that was his career?’” All that dark, scary stuff happened. And it’s still there, by the way, but it was kind of this moment of, “OK — it’s not even a redemption arc. It’s more like, now I get to prove myself. Now I get the big boy job.” And so, all of that is to say, I am I forever, forever in debt to Matt Reeves. He’s changed my life three times over now.

 

[Eddie Dean]

I wish Invader Joker was here so I could confront him with the proof of Lilly Tomlin’s son working on the entire script

 

[Sawyer]

I wish Invader Joker was here

Did Hell just freeze over?

 

[Kane52630]

Did Hell just freeze over?

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

I'm afraid to ask what happened to Invader Joker...

 

[emielaen]

DCU or not, Reeves’ work falls under Gunn’s purview.

They’re also just different people. Reeves isn’t gonna make it a habit to answer questions like that anyway. I really don’t get the frustration around that. It’s harmless.

 

[Sawyer]

I also think some of these things are best nipped in the bud.

Squashing that rumor now vs. letting it fester for months on end, only for the fans to eventually catch on to the fact that it isn’t actually happening, jumping to the conclusion that it was cancelled and panicking that way??

I’ll take door number one.

 

[solidsnake86]

I also think some of these things are best nipped in the bud.

Squashing that rumor now vs. letting it fester for months on end, only for the fans to eventually catch on to the fact that it isn’t actually happening, jumping to the conclusion that it was cancelled and panicking that way??

I’ll take door number one.

Agreed. It's just funny that Gunn is so quick to debunk rumors when it comes to Matt Reeves batman universe that is its own thing. Especially when it comes to a video game rumor. Games take so long to develop everyone would have forgotten about this or at least wouldn't be surprised if it got canned.

Without a doubt, I'm sure this idea was floated around at some point. They have been looking at tv shows to expand the universe, we have heard reports about him taking pitches for villian centric movies, and he was the one by all accounts that encouraged Paul Dano to write a prequel comic.

 

[TheGDBatman]

Agreed. It's just funny that Gunn is so quick to debunk rumors when it comes to Matt Reeves batman universe that is its own thing. Especially when it comes to a video game rumor. Games take so long to develop everyone would have forgotten about this or at least wouldn't be surprised if it got canned.

Without a doubt, I'm sure this idea was floated around at some point. They have been looking at tv shows to expand the universe, we have heard reports about him taking pitches for villian centric movies, and he was the one by all accounts that encouraged Paul Dano to write a prequel comic.

As others have mentioned, it’s still part of DC Studios. Makes sense why Gunn would debunk it.

It’s funny how just a few months ago there was fear mongering that Gunn cancelled The Batman Part II. Now people are like “why is he answering questions about it, it’s part of the DCU” as if Gunn has zero power lol. Which is it? (And I’m not directing this specifically at you solidsnake, just pointing out the discrepancies in the thought process I’m generally seeing online).