I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[Boom]

Ah my mistake, that video was from last year. Whoops.

Wow Kane.

 

[Kane52630]

Wow Kane.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

pls god let it be real

 

[Boom]

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

Looks like it’s set in The Batman universe. I see Matt Reeves’s production company.

 

[J.Drangal]

pls god let it be real

Interesting... Very intersting!

Looks like it’s set in The Batman universe. I see Matt Reeves’s production company.

Yeah, and frankly, I can't see this kind of series appearing outside this universe anyway.
I mean, it would be really weird to start the Batman corner of the DCU there (if that ever happens) and I don't buy Reeves and co. developping Batman related stuff for the DCU like rumored at one point with the Arkham show.

Now the question is: is this an indicator of Freeze's presence in The Batman Part II, with that show being a The Penguin-style spin-off?
Or does Reeves have enough juice to eventually count a Batman adventure or two outside his “Crime Saga”, in a TV format?
Perhaps Part III won't take place immediately after its predecessor, which would leave some space...

 

[Mindreaper21]

Looks like it’s set in The Batman universe. I see Matt Reeves’s production company.

Not necessarily. Christopher Nolan produced the Dark Knight trilogy as well as Man of Steel and they aren’t connected.

 

[Sawyer]

 

[Gothamsknight]

pls god let it be real

Have my prayers been answered?!! Is it happening?!

 

[Sawyer]

I don’t particularly trust Everything_DCU, but we’ll see.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

I mean if Production Weekly is throwing it up there, that lends a bit more legitimacy, though I’m sure the details might be different

 

[solidsnake86]

I know the tweet says series/movie but does production weekly indicate which one it would be, i.e. a tv show or movie. I'm with Sawyer on the above regarding the source, but if it comes from production weekly it's not really anything to do with that particular user.

I know we've had this discussion before because clayface was mentioned there as well, but is production weekly accurate in the sense that the studio provides the information (whether it happens or not is a different story)?

If true, the then next question is, does it belong to the DCU or does it belong to the batverse? Gunn seemed to indicate that Reeves would also develop stuff for the DCU so time will tell I guess.

Personally, HBO said they only want the marquee characters. When I think of who would be marquee, I think of characters that the general audience knows thanks to the 66 series and other movies so to me it boils down to Joker, Catwoman, riddler, Harley Quinn and penguin with a maybe going to Mr. Freeze and two-face. So those are the characters I could see as a limited series versus a film. Just from a marketing perspective it's probably an easier sell than say, a clayface series.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Gunn also said Ben Affleck was eager to direct for them (which seems to have been an outright lie) so I wouldn’t put too much stock in that statement. Doesn’t mean he has a bad relationship with Reeves, just that ‘Oh yeah we’ll work together’ seems to be a Thing He Says to indicate there’s no hard feelings.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

 

[AndyTrevino]

I'm one of those people who's quite wary of a Freeze spinoff project. I'm not crazy about a bunch of Batman villains having their own spinoffs, but at least Penguin and Catwoman have precedence for carrying their own titles and have proven to be capable of doing as such.

I hate to be thinking like an exec, but yeah.

 

[Johnny Frost]

Is it just me or does it feel like they're building up to a rivalry between Harvey Dent and Penguin? Kind of like Dent has with Carmine in TLH or with Thorne in BTAS, the crime boss that Harvey will be obsessed with taking down.

 

[Mindreaper21]

Is it just me or does it feel like they're building up to a rivalry between Harvey Dent and Penguin? Kind of like Dent has with Carmine in TLH or with Thorne in BTAS, the crime boss that Harvey will be obsessed with taking down.

 

[AndyTrevino]

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God I hate that Penguin.

 

[AndyTrevino]

If Freeze indeed exists in the Reevesverse, could we count on Reeves to try to see if he can fudge the ice gun, especially during a winter setting, or is he more likely to just make it a normal gun and leave his victims to freeze from the elements?

 

[emielaen]

Do a Anton Chigurh-esque situation with some sort of air-ice-gun thing. Less of a projectile "gun" that literally shoots beams of ice and more of a pressurized ice-bullet route. Plenty cool **** they could do w Freeze.

 

[Babillygunn]

If Freeze indeed exists in the Reevesverse, could we count on Reeves to try to see if he can fudge the ice gun, especially during a winter setting, or is he more likely to just make it a normal gun and leave his victims to freeze from the elements?

I sincerely hope they don’t water (or ice) down the comics elements of Freeze. And I wouldn’t think that they would.

I remember before TDKR came out, there were people hoping for a Mr Freeze who was a serial killer who kept victims in a refrigerated truck. I’m glad those people aren’t working in these scripts.

Given the fact that The Batman actually had a Riddler who left clues and riddles (something that Batman Forever barely touched on), I think that Reeves will keep the core of the character even if the aesthetics are different.

 

[WatchProtect]

I think Freeze works if you keep his Wife, and the disease, maybe she isn't Frozen but just comatose and Freeze in the film is on a 60 minutes style mission to save her.

I don't think he personally needs the living in below zero condition for himself, he can still wear the suit because he's in cold temperatures Regardless

 

[C Prometheus]

I think Freeze works if you keep his Wife, and the disease, maybe she isn't Frozen but just comatose and Freeze in the film is on a 60 minutes style mission to save her.

I don't think he personally needs the living in below zero condition for himself, he can still wear the suit because he's in cold temperatures Regardless

Yeah, IMO, the most important thing at this point to keep about adapting Mr Freeze is far and away the backstory and motivation that Victor has with his wife Nora. That's why people love the character and why we love Heart of Ice.

 

[J.Drangal]

I still think that simply trying to find “realistic” ways to translate what are ultimately just Freeze gimmicks, like the ice cannon, is the wrong direction to go.
Every time I read attempts, I find that the character's identity is completely lost: a serial killer who puts people in refrigerators? Nah...
This is kind of going the Arthur Fleck direction, and I say that appreciating Joker... You get the point, it's just a way too lose/superficial of an adaptation, especially to work within a larger universe.

I'd already suggested it in an old post, but I think presenting the Fries as a couple of scientists who have contracted a rare disease would be an interesting direction.
All it takes is a bit of pseudo-scientific talk to explain that the process can only be slowed down by experimental body-cooling techniques, and we could have Victor Fries fighting against the clock to try to save/avenge his wife, who's more affected and comatose/cryogenized.
This would retain the character's dramatic core, something for the audience to truly grasp on, while allowing the more cosmetic element of cold to be integrated organically and in a “plausible” way.

Also, I maintain that Reeves' universe, independently of his declaration, possesses a visual stylization that can only facilitate the incursion of a bit of fantastic and strong iconisation.
Like cited above, I believe a steampunk-ish Anton Chigurh, but with a touching mission, kind of tie to all of this and could work...

Actually, I think the whole thing might even have worked with Nolan.
It's just a classic sci-fi approach : taking existing things, and allowing a few liberties and theoretical blurbs to smoothly take things to the next level.

EDIT : Oops, I'm just repeating what's been said in the last few posts... Sorry, I hadn't updated the page...

 

[solidsnake86]

I'm surprised Gunn hasn't debunked these rumours yet. He is usually pretty quick to say it's false.

I still am curious to see if they decide to go with the spin-off film option they had mentioned years ago for certain villains.

For HBO stuff I do believe they would probably want a Catwoman tv show (unfairly, a movie will have to get over the 2004 debacle), joker or two-face. With Catwoman and joker being the biggest "brand" characters. Two-faced would be dependant on the actor and reception if he shows up in a sequel.

If Joker is not featuring as a prominent character in the movies, there is so much that could be done with a tv show. Plus it would be a few years removed from the Phillips movies that the appetite might be there from the general audience. It would also likely have massive ratings. I don't see them passing up that opportunity.