I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[solidsnake86]

Black Mask would have been fun to see. Even some other villains that wouldn't have made it into the sequel. From the sounds of it, they tried to keep this pretty contained.

Although, if they decide to do a Catwoman series. Maybe he could show up there.

 

[C Prometheus]

Black Mask would have been fun to see. Even some other villains that wouldn't have made it into the sequel. From the sounds of it, they tried to keep this pretty contained.

Although, if they decide to do a Catwoman series. Maybe he could show up there.

Yeah, I've generally had the opinion that if Black Mask ever showed up in the BatVerse, the best place to utilize him would be as the lead antagonist in a Catwoman spinoff project.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

They've already used Black Mask as the villain for a female lead spinoff.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

I have to give props to The Batman ( Penguin ) official Twitter account, they’re doing a great job interacting with the fans recently. 106K likes, 4M views on this tweet.

 

[BobJM]

Yeah, I've generally had the opinion that if Black Mask ever showed up in the BatVerse, the best place to utilize him would be as the lead antagonist in a Catwoman spinoff project.

 

[PepS]

Hopefully, Sofia makes it through the series and shows up in The Batman: Part II. Really want to see her interacting with Batman and Catwoman.

 

[blueharvest]

 

[TheGDBatman]

This feels like such a nothing burger of an update from the “InSneider”.

“Greedy David Zaslav wants most profitable DC hero to appear soon. He’s also planning the cancelation of more movies from his ultra yacht for tax purposes. Believes P Diddy is just misunderstood”.

OK, the last couple of things weren’t in there, but still. Obviously he would want Batman on the horizon sooner rather than later. I also highly doubt Pattinson gets roped into the DCU. If anything, I could see Reeves sticking around in some capacity since he’s becoming the godfather of Batman stuff. And the latest Dynamic Duo film being produced by his company is an interesting thing to note.

 

[Boom]

Pattinson is not happening in the DCU. It can make all the business sense in the world, but it won't make a lick of difference. People need to let that **** go.

 

[TheScarecrow]

For Freeze to work in the Reevesverse you'd only have to remove the element of him being actually frozen, and the idea that you can unfreeze his victims.

Give him a severe frost burn or something, the suit is protective and once he freezes you you're frozen and likely losing whatever he froze.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

For Freeze to work in the Reevesverse you'd only have to remove the element of him being actually frozen, and the idea that you can unfreeze his victims.

Give him a severe frost burn or something, the suit is protective and once he freezes you you're frozen and likely losing whatever he froze.

This is why I don't want Freeze anywhere near the Reevesverse.

 

[J.Drangal]

And here we are, back in the infernal loop.

 

[BatLobster]

I do think that the more successful The Batman universe is, the bigger of a collective eyeroll from the general audience there will be if they introduce a new Batman into the DCU while that is still ongoing. It's still a bit catch 22.

There's also the fact that WB is in really bad financial shape at the moment. I'm not sure how sustainable this all is. Can't help but feel like Zaslav mainly wants the illusion of a successful DC Universe to pump up the price for another sale and that's what this is actually all about.

 

[Iceman]

I do think that the more successful The Batman universe is, the bigger of a collective eyeroll from the general audience there will be if they introduce a new Batman into the DCU while that is still ongoing. It's still a bit catch 22.

There's also the fact that WB is in really bad financial shape at the moment. I'm not sure how sustainable this all is. Can't help but feel like Zaslav mainly wants the illusion of a successful DC Universe to pump up the price for another sale and that's what this is actually all about.

I think it would depend on how high quality and how differentiated (hopefully fantastical and comic booky) a DCU Batman would be. Imagine after Batman Returns coming out we got TDK. People might think WTF's going on and have little interest, but they would slow their eyerolls pretty soon when they see the quality and significantly differing style of the new Batman film.

 

[Lautox]

For Freeze to work in the Reevesverse you'd only have to remove the element of him being actually frozen, and the idea that you can unfreeze his victims.

Give him a severe frost burn or something, the suit is protective and once he freezes you you're frozen and likely losing whatever he froze.

That's just the superficial stuff if they can get right the core traits of his character and motivations it doesn't matter if he needs a cold suit and an ice gun.

 

[solidsnake86]

I think it would depend on how high quality and how differentiated (hopefully fantastical and comic booky) a DCU Batman would be. Imagine after Batman Returns coming out we got TDK. People might think WTF's going on and have little interest, but they would slow their eyerolls pretty soon when they see the quality and significantly differing style of the new Batman film.

To some extent I agree, but the interesting thing about batman is that the take the general audience seems to be resonating with is the grounded version. There have been so many iterations of the character now, I do think people will roll there eyes if they announce another batman like another user had mentioned.

I saw that from my own family members that don't care about this stuff when Pattinson was announced. So you have to invest a lot to establish this new batman and it actually needs to be good which is easier said then done. The flash was supposed to be amazing and to me it was ok, but I found the batman stuff the worst part of the movie.

As the batverse gets more established the argument grows stronger to hold off on a DCU batman until Reeves decides he is done. I mean, look at the reactions to the penguin, it's like lightning in a bottle to get great reviews and have high ratings. Why throw that away chasing something that doesn't actually exist right now. Creature commandos will be the first dcu product and that's a niche cartoon.

On a personal level, I'm happy the joker is coming out and will be done so they can turn there attention to Matt Reeves batman.

 

[Mindreaper21]

The only thing that will be frozen in TB2 will be a Slush Puppie. It’s time to put this Mr. Freeze idea on ice.

 

[Boom]

I don't think they need to do away with the cryonics aspect of the character. It's a controversial field of study, and many scientists laugh it off as an impossible pseudoscience, but it's a very real thing that is being researched. There are a number of people who have actually had their remains frozen in hopes of a breakthrough in the future. And honestly, if you google some of these facilities it is genuinely creepy stuff that would be right at home in Reeves' universe.

Instead of him having to keep himself as subzero temperature due to an accident, have him severely scarred/disfigured from frostbite and wear a cryosuit to protect him from the cold (his freeze gun and his cryolab).

Given Reeves' recent remarks leading up to The Penguin's premiere, I am all but certain it's not gonna be Freeze. But there is a genuinely cool concept in here for Reeves to explore if he wanted to.

 

[Iceman]

To some extent I agree, but the interesting thing about batman is that the take the general audience seems to be resonating with is the grounded version. There have been so many iterations of the character now, I do think people will roll there eyes if they announce another batman like another user had mentioned.

I saw that from my own family members that don't care about this stuff when Pattinson was announced. So you have to invest a lot to establish this new batman and it actually needs to be good which is easier said then done. The flash was supposed to be amazing and to me it was ok, but I found the batman stuff the worst part of the movie.

As the batverse gets more established the argument grows stronger to hold off on a DCU batman until Reeves decides he is done. I mean, look at the reactions to the penguin, it's like lightning in a bottle to get great reviews and have high ratings. Why throw that away chasing something that doesn't actually exist right now. Creature commandos will be the first dcu product and that's a niche cartoon.

On a personal level, I'm happy the joker is coming out and will be done so they can turn there attention to Matt Reeves batman.

I don’t think you need to throw anything away though. The Penguin being top quality means people will watch it and word of mouth will spread, regardless of if there was another Batman film about to release, even one with a new Penguin. The new film (DCU) is the one that will have the tougher job on its hands convincing the audience that it’s worth their time. I don’t see interests dropping for the existing well respected one. If the new one fails due to not being strong enough to break through audience weariness of too much Bat-content, then it wasn’t good enough - and I don’t see that reducing enthusiasm for Penguin quality projects personally.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

I don't think they need to do away with the cryonics aspect of the character. It's a controversial field of study, and many scientists laugh it off as an impossible pseudoscience, but it's a very real thing that is being researched. There are a number of people who have actually had their remains frozen in hopes of a breakthrough in the future. And honestly, if you google some of these facilities it is genuinely creepy stuff that would be right at home in Reeves' universe.

Instead of him having to keep himself as subzero temperature due to an accident, have him severely scarred/disfigured from frostbite and wear a cryosuit to protect him from the cold (his freeze gun and his cryolab).

Given Reeves' recent remarks leading up to The Penguin's premiere, I am all but certain it's not gonna be Freeze. But there is a genuinely cool concept in here for Reeves to explore if he wanted to.

I am sorry but... if you have to change the character that radically to fit him into the Reeves verse, what is the point of even having the character in that universe in the first place?

At some point, its just not worth it.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

I am sorry but... if you have to change the character that radically to fit him into the Reeves verse, what is the point of even having the character in that universe in the first place?

At some point, its just not worth it.

I don't disagree broadly speaking, but tbh for Mr. Freeze as long as he has some sort of freeze gun and the personality/motives it's all good.

 

[Milkman95]

Sofia is awesome in The Penguin, we need her in The Batman Part II. Keep the Reevesverse well away from the upcoming DCU please.

 

[Boom]

I am sorry but... if you have to change the character that radically to fit him into the Reeves verse, what is the point of even having the character in that universe in the first place?

At some point, its just not worth it.

Creative exercise.

Cold-based tragedy still defines him.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

There's a substantial middle ground between 100% comics accurate Mr. Freeze with every detail intact and him being a mafia hitman who hides bodies in a meat freezer or something stupid. It's not like Man-Bat or mud monster Clayface where the starting place is fundamentally unworkable without ruining the concept.

 

[Mindreaper21]

It’s really puzzling how people can watch this saga and believe that some half dead guy with a severe case of hypothermia is going to show up out of nowhere in a SpaceX suit with an advanced military grade weapon to freeze people even further to death just because he’s mad that no one will fund his research to cure his wife’s lung disease.

It’s just a “villain of the week” plot that goes nowhere. I like Mr. Freeze a lot, though he has no real place in this crime saga. It’s like reading a book and the writer decides that he’s going to move away from the main plot to introduce a new character right in the middle of the story just because he thinks he’s cool.