I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[The Lazarus Pit]

I believe Sneider. Gunn already showed DCU Batman and he totally had the collar.

I think it’s very likely Gunn is pushing for Pattinson to be DCU Batman and Reeves is resistant. Reeves is taking too damn long for this sequel. I don’t want to have to wait so long to see Batman in live action. I want Pattinson in the solo films and in the DCU.

Just wait to do Damian, start slow with Grayson and build the Bat family organically. I never liked the idea of jumping straight into an existent Batfamily without developing the characters and showing their origins. My favorite episodes of BTAS are the ones that show the origins of the Batfamily like Grayson, Barbara and Tim.

 

[Gandhi]

If it was to happen, I can’t see any possibility of Reeves directing. It seems a massive leap to go from Cobb instead of Cobblepot because it’s more like a real name to suddenly existing in a fantasy universe with metahumans etc.

 

[Arachnerd]

I don’t care if Reeves gets mad, he can ****ing get over it, just make Pattinson the Batman in the DCU.

My guy, let's not act entitled now. At the end of the day he doesn't owe fans anything more than he already has.

 

[WayneMB]

I would refrain from acting borderline entitled considering it's been now 3 to 4 times Sneider and other sources said there's a "private and personal" reason for the script taking so long, not only strikes.

 

[solidsnake86]

I do hope that whatever personal and private reason it is, he or his family is ok.

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

If we have to wait 5+ years every time we get a Batman on film then I want a different director. The Batman was good and so was Penguin but I’m not convinced Reeves is the only one that can make something of that quality. I think there are other directors that could make something just as good. Hell, I prefer Nolan’s films and he took way less time to make his trilogy and he made movies in between each Bat film. The Nolan films had better stories but the portrayal of Batman himself was stronger in Reeves film.

If Pattinson wants to be part of Gunn’s universe and Reeves doesn’t want that, then I hope Pattinson becomes DCU Batman anyway. If Pattinson wants to do it, Batman fans shouldn’t be deprived of more Battinson because Reeves thinks his Batman cannot interact with other heroes. I think it’ll be hard to find a better Batman actor right now and having multiple versions of the character is going to be horrible for the brand.

People said they couldn’t picture Iron Man interacting with the greater MCU before the other solo films came out and look how great that turned out for them. Nothing about Pattinson’s Batman indicates he can’t exist with other heroes. Batman always started off very grounded- just look at Year One. I want each hero to have a totally unique tone and vibe. The sameness of the MCU isn’t the only way to build a universe.

You can have serious gritty Pattinson Batman in his solo films and under different directors, his Batman can feel slightly different or more fantastical in say a JL movie.

Whatever happens I’ll try to keep an open mind but right now 1. it feels like this movie is taking too damn long and 2. Having multiple Batman iterations is going to be a hard sell

If the rumors are true that there is a personal and private reason for the movie taking too long, then I feel bad for Reeves and hope whatever the issue is, that it gets better for him. I just don’t want Batman on film to be held hostage by one director.

We’ve only got a few more years til Batman becomes public domain, I wonder how that will go down… does anyone know if WB has any way to keep that from happening?

 

[SwordOfMorning]

Batman being ‘held hostage’ by one director is right and good. There are enough Batman movies. They should only be made if there’s a passionate, specific vision. Otherwise it’s just content. These characters exist as archetypes to be reinvented by creatives, their value isn’t really in themselves.

I’m not opposed to Batman in a shared universe. I even think Battinson would be insanely well suited to it. I just at this point am only interested in seeing these characters in unique, finite stories. Stories which are totally liberated from the shackles of status quo.

The personal and private reason talk comes from irrelevant randos. It’s worth paying attention to Sneider even though he’s a dingus, but those rumours are Nothing.

 

[solidsnake86]

^not sure about that. I think Bobatalks mentioned it and he's not really a scooper but sometimes does get info. Also doesn't strike me as someone to make up that kind of stuff because it's not really part of the content he makes.

As for Sneider, people can hate him all they want but he does have sources.

In any event, what we do know is that he is almost done with the script and they are starting to lock down production starts.

 

[SwordOfMorning]

^not sure about that. I think Bobatalks mentioned it and he's not really a scooper but sometimes does get info. Also doesn't strike me as someone to make up that kind of stuff because it's not really part of the content he makes.

As for Sneider, people can hate him all they want but he does have sources.

In any event, what we do know is that he is almost done with the script and they are starting to lock down production starts.

BobaTalks is a complete nobody. What has he ever gotten that was meaningful or substantive? There is absolutely no reason to think he's a legit source. The personal issues stuff is salacious, inappropriate rumour mill filth. Tbh, he should be ashamed for even alluding to it - even moreso if it turned out to be true.

Yeah, that's why I said Sneider is worth taking into consider. I don't blame people for talking about Sneider scoops.

 

[Karelia]

If Gunn wants it, and Robert Pattinson wants to be the DCU Batman, I think it will happen. Gunn is probably being as respectful with Reeves as he can while also teying to convince him. Or maybe they're making sure Superman is a hit before confirming he's the DCU Batman. If Superman flops (which I'm doubting it will come close to a flop) they still have a universe they may can try to build off of.

Idk, I could be way off. I'm just a guy on the internet lol.

 

[Arachnerd]

^not sure about that. I think Bobatalks mentioned it and he's not really a scooper but sometimes does get info. Also doesn't strike me as someone to make up that kind of stuff because it's not really part of the content he makes.

To clarify, as someone who follows Boba, he has mentioned Sneider's 'scoop' but moreso in a disparaging way because he doesn't really believe the rumor.

If Gunn wants it, and Robert Pattinson wants to be the DCU Batman, I think it will happen. Gunn is probably being as respectful with Reeves as he can while also teying to convince him. Or maybe they're making sure Superman is a hit before confirming he's the DCU Batman. If Superman flops (which I'm doubting it will come close to a flop) they still have a universe they may can try to build off of.

Idk, I could be way off. I'm just a guy on the internet lol.

I'm sorry, but if that were ever to be the case, it would be very underhanded and disrespectful on Gunn's part.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

Sneider might be public enemy number one after he reported what he heard about Superman’s test screening reaction and the VFX stuff. I don’t know what kind of sources he got , but he has gotten stuff right in the past.

 

[Frodo]

If the rumors and scoops are true , then I would be against Gunn's preference .

I'm against putting Reeve's version and Reeves The Batman world into the Gunn-verse, and I haven't seen an argument in fandom, that's persuaded me it'd be a good idea.


Now, If Reeves were to finish his story, and Pattinson were to play a totally different version of Batman in the Gunn-verse , with a totally different backstory and continuity, that's fine with me.

That's what they're doing with Jackman's Wolverine now, so , I'd be fine if they did that with Pattinson.


I still think it would be a better idea to cast a different actor for Brave And The Bold , but if Pattinson's on board to play a totally different version of Batman ,after Reeves's saga has concluded ,
I could see that.


But otherwise, I don't want Oz Cobb to live in the same world as Mr. Terrific, Kaiju Monsters ,and Krypto .


I get there are fans who do want that , but I don't , and I agree with Matt Reeves.

 

[TheGDBatman]

I think if you put Pattinson into the DCU, it would undermine the characters in his universe.

In a grounded, gritty world, the Penguin is a legitimate threat. In the DCU he’d be a joke, quite frankly.

The fantastical elements need to be cranked up a notch in order for it to be less jarring.

I’d rather see a new actor in the role, with the character being designed for this world. Otherwise you’re retrofitting two things that weren’t meant to go together as they currently exist.

 

[Rick190293]

I think it's too late. Reevesverse was already established two years ago, it should've been something planned from the very beginning. Would it make sense to join the universes? Absolutely. We'd already have a well done Batman, so a World's Finest movie might not be that far away. But now I don't think it'll be the right decision.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I don't think WB is gonna try to sell movies on a DCU Batman, but they will want a DCU Batman appearing in minor roles soon, be it appearing in Teen Titans, Waller, a Nightwing project, etc.

And since I just don't imagine Pattinson will want to be Bats so long (he already talked about retiring after Batman pt 3), they'll cast someone else.

But I do think it's possible that the Pattinson stuff will treated as like a soft canon early-years prequel to the Bat-dad (Reeves is a producer on all these other Bat projects after all), with some cast members and interpretations continuing on after Pattinson leaves.

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

Every bit of news that comes out about The Batman part II, I’m just waiting on Gunn to yell “Fake News!” Lol

 

[solidsnake86]

Well when these things start happening there is a good chance pre production is starting so chances are the script is more or less done. It's exciting to know we will be getting casting soon.

 

[WayneMB]

Her previous work doesn't bode well lol. I'm surprised Jonathan Olley isn't coming back.
But, a silver lining is that this basically confirms pre-production has started. When January 1st hits it will probably be in full gear.

 

[donuts]

If the idea is for the DCU to have a universal canon, then I remain adamant in not wanting Reeves' stuff anywhere near it. Nothing about the world Reeves created leads one to believe that metahumans, kaiju, robots and aliens exist in it. I don't want to break the internal logic of Reeves' world to placate a shared universe it wasn't conceived to be a part of.

Did Batman: Year One lead you to believe that there was such stuff?

That said, I'd prefer for The Batman to remain its own Bat-centric saga, and to have a different Batman in the DCU.

 

[ENCK]

If we have to wait 5+ years every time we get a Batman on film then I want a different director. The Batman was good and so was Penguin but I’m not convinced Reeves is the only one that can make something of that quality. I think there are other directors that could make something just as good. Hell, I prefer Nolan’s films and he took way less time to make his trilogy and he made movies in between each Bat film. The Nolan films had better stories but the portrayal of Batman himself was stronger in Reeves film.

If Pattinson wants to be part of Gunn’s universe and Reeves doesn’t want that, then I hope Pattinson becomes DCU Batman anyway. If Pattinson wants to do it, Batman fans shouldn’t be deprived of more Battinson because Reeves thinks his Batman cannot interact with other heroes. I think it’ll be hard to find a better Batman actor right now and having multiple versions of the character is going to be horrible for the brand.

People said they couldn’t picture Iron Man interacting with the greater MCU before the other solo films came out and look how great that turned out for them. Nothing about Pattinson’s Batman indicates he can’t exist with other heroes. Batman always started off very grounded- just look at Year One. I want each hero to have a totally unique tone and vibe. The sameness of the MCU isn’t the only way to build a universe.

You can have serious gritty Pattinson Batman in his solo films and under different directors, his Batman can feel slightly different or more fantastical in say a JL movie.

Whatever happens I’ll try to keep an open mind but right now 1. it feels like this movie is taking too damn long and 2. Having multiple Batman iterations is going to be a hard sell

If the rumors are true that there is a personal and private reason for the movie taking too long, then I feel bad for Reeves and hope whatever the issue is, that it gets better for him. I just don’t want Batman on film to be held hostage by one director.

We’ve only got a few more years til Batman becomes public domain, I wonder how that will go down… does anyone know if WB has any way to keep that from happening?

Iron man was already in the same universe. Dragging Reeve's Batman from his realistic world which has nothing to do with Gunns over to that world would be convoluted and ridiculous. We are supposed to believe in this grounded thing and now Battison is interacting with creatures from other worlds and fantastical villains? It would be horrible. Keep both separate like what was intended.

 

[ENCK]

I personally don’t believe Pattinson wants to be DCU Batman. From the way he picked his projects after Twilight and mostly lives his life out of the spotlight, I don’t think he’d be interested in the shared universe, cameos etc. Could obviously be wrong of course but Reeves working slow is also actually an advantage in some ways as it gives him more time to do other projects in between.

agreed

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

The Batman: Part 2's Matt Reeves teases sequel plot

"It's a lot more like our world is now."

www.digitalspy.com

Batman will be returning to the big screen in 2026 as Robert Pattinson suits-up once more for the sequel to Matt Reeves’ hit Gotham thriller.

The Batman Part 2 will follow on from the events of the first film which saw the Riddler take explosive revenge on the city, bringing forth a biblical-like flood.

Speaking exclusively to Digital Spy, Reeves detailed how the upcoming sequel will see the Dark Knight struggle in the wake of Riddler’s destruction.

 

[Sawyer]

I don’t know if putting Pattinson in the blue and grey is worth the risk, but it’s an interesting thought…

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

Andy Muschietti said The Brave and The Bold project has been postponed for a little bit. He states that he might do another film.

I guess Gunn is allowing Matt Reeves sequel to breathe a little before they do introduce the DCU Batman.

It’s in Spanish.

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