I'm Reading Your Stuff: General News and Discussion Thread

[TheSmoothKnight]

With that kind of answer , Matt Reeves is being Bane for the Battinson DCU merger fans lol People are going to continue to speculate until Gunn cast the DCU Batman.

 

[donuts]

Truth be told I'm having a hard time reading Matt here. Can't tell if he's just giving a PC, non-committal answer, or if there is genuine heat to these rumors.

I don't know. When asked about Pattinson possibly joining the DCU he kinda gave off an "I'd rather not" vibe, while trying to stay polite and professional.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I need a Catwoman show

As if DC will ever let that happen

 

[Pennywise]

 

[Boom]

 

[Erik Lensherr]

But Pattinson is too young for the DCU Batman.

 

[donuts]

How do we think a Matt Reeves Mr. Freeze might look like?

But Pattinson is too young for the DCU Batman.

If they decide to have Pattinson be the DCU Batman, I'd rather have them scrap the "Brave and the Bold" idea for now, and have his story progress organically by introducing Dick as his first Robin, etc .

 

[Boom]

How do we think a Matt Reeves Mr. Freeze might look like?

-Cryonics researcher.
-Suit protects him from deep cold instead of keeping him cold. Disfigured from long exposure to deep cold.
-Liquid nitrogen gun, more for self defense.
-I really like Gotham's take on Freeze, where his victims are people he experiments on in order to find a cure and save Nora. But the traditional revenge angle where Nora is already frozen works just as well for me.

While cryonics is squarely a pseudoscience, it is very much a real thing and there are people out there that have actually frozen their bodies. If reimagined through this real-world application, Freeze could be genuinely unnerving.

 

[solidsnake86]

How do we think a Matt Reeves Mr. Freeze might look like?


If they decide to have Pattinson be the DCU Batman, I'd rather have them scrap the "Brave and the Bold" idea for now, and have his story progress organically by introducing Dick as his first Robin, etc .

To me this would make the most sense. Actually use Dick Grayson instead and build up front there.

Pattinson is actually the perfect age for this and you're probably not going to get a better actor than him right now as Batman.

 

[TheGDBatman]

I love Matt and James but I really need both of them to just says specifically that Battison either will or won’t be in the DCU. Cause this kinda stuff is just gonna cause more speculation and stuff

Who cares? Let people speculate. Gives us stuff to talk about during dry spells for news. It really doesn't harm anyone.

 

[solidsnake86]

The speculation is half the fun on here.

Which, theoretically, if they do merge, I wonder if he makes an appearance in clayface or clayface makes an appearance in the Batman Part II. We know there have been rumours regarding clayface in the sequel. It's also possible if this was actually a development that happened recently (merging) then did Reeves decide to switch out clayface for a different villain (i.e. Mr. freeze).

I just have a tough time believing they are making a clayface movie without attaching it somehow to batman, which Batman is up for debate, but I also don't think it makes sense to introduce your DCU batman in a d-list villain movie. Because we all full well know the talk surrounding the movie is going to be about batman, whether he appears or not, which actor plays him etc.

 

[NotToday]

I just have a tough time believing they are making a clayface movie without attaching it somehow to batman,

That's interesting; because I find it very easy to believe the Clayface movie will not be attached to (any) Batman; exactly because he's a D-lister. Also from the little info about it, it seems like it's being approached as a horror movie first, DC property second (... or third). Somewhat similar the the Joker films.

 

[Gothamsknight]

-Cryonics researcher.
-Suit protects him from deep cold instead of keeping him cold. Disfigured from long exposure to deep cold.
-Liquid nitrogen gun, more for self defense.
-I really like Gotham's take on Freeze, where his victims are people he experiments on in order to find a cure and save Nora. But the traditional revenge angle where Nora is already frozen works just as well for me.

While cryonics is squarely a pseudoscience, it is very much a real thing and there are people out there that have actually frozen their bodies. If reimagined through this real-world application, Freeze could be genuinely unnerving.

This alone gets me so excited. It could make for some really terrifying stuff.

 

[donuts]

That's interesting; because I find it very easy to believe the Clayface movie will not be attached to (any) Batman; exactly because he's a D-lister. Also from the little info about it, it seems like it's being approached as a horror movie first, DC property second (... or third). Somewhat similar the the Joker films.

The can keep it vague.

Have Batman be a presence in Gotham City, without actually showing (if the movie's set in Gotham).

Anyway, I think that we can put all doubts to rest as soon as we have more news and a first look at Clayface.

The Batman Saga's visual style is so specific that you either commit to it or you don't.

And , to be honest, I think that there simply is a separate DCU Batman who isn't Battinson, and they're keeping things close to the chest for now to avoid overwhelming discourse and speculation about the two different Batmen for now.

Once more puzzle pieces come into place, the plans will make more sense to naysayers.

This is uncharted territory, and they're being careful and methodical on how to roll out the confirmations and announcements.

 

[Erik Lensherr]

-Cryonics researcher.
-Suit protects him from deep cold instead of keeping him cold. Disfigured from long exposure to deep cold.
-Liquid nitrogen gun, more for self defense.
-I really like Gotham's take on Freeze, where his victims are people he experiments on in order to find a cure and save Nora. But the traditional revenge angle where Nora is already frozen works just as well for me.

While cryonics is squarely a pseudoscience, it is very much a real thing and there are people out there that have actually frozen their bodies. If reimagined through this real-world application, Freeze could be genuinely unnerving.

Or we make a comic accurate representation

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Definitely sounds like they’re staying mum on the DCU topic because they’re in full “wait and see” mode before Superman

It would’ve been very easy to double down and give a flat out denial to that, but he left the door open… Which means it’s very much in play I’d say

 

[C Prometheus]

Definitely sounds like they’re staying mum on the DCU topic because they’re in full “wait and see” mode before Superman

It would’ve been very easy to double down and give a flat out denial to that, but he left the door open… Which means it’s very much in play I’d say

Agreed. I suspect that Gunn's come to realize that way too many people just are not onboard with the idea of there being two separate live action Batmen out there at the same time.

But Pattinson is too young for the DCU Batman.

Pattinson is actually getting close to 40 years old IRL at this point, though he's still looking quite youthful. My guess is that if the Reeves Crime Saga merges into the DCU, the idea will be that there's a notable time gap between the Crime Saga and later DCU Batman-related projects.

 

[king666]

His response has a real "I don't really want to but depending on how Superman does we might do it" energy.

 

[donuts]

Agreed. I suspect that Gunn's come to realize that way too many people just are not onboard with the idea of there being two separate live action Batmen out there at the same time.

I think he's simply waiting to have more on his plate, such as cameras rolling on Clayface and further progression on any project where the DCU Batman will make his debut, in order to properly present the idea of two parallel Batmen instead of just talking about it without much to show.

Also, should they decide to bring Pattinson into the DCU, then they should respect that character's natural progression in the movies and let him grow and branch out to other cities and meeting other heroes "in real time." Having a critical time-skip where he's still "Battinson," but suddenly completely different, ten years more experienced and with an entire Bat-Family made of Nightwing, Robin, Batgirl and now Damian under his wing would be the worst thing they could do IMO.

 

[Frodo]

Definitely sounds like they’re staying mum on the DCU topic because they’re in full “wait and see” mode before Superman

It would’ve been very easy to double down and give a flat out denial to that, but he left the door open… Which means it’s very much in play I’d say

I agree.

Until now, I thought it was pretty much off the table as far as Reeves was concerned, but this recent statement certainly gives me the impression that the option is a possibility after all.

It may be that Reeves isn't willing to fight Gunn , if Gunn wants to incorporate Battinson into the DCU in the future.

At this point , it may be that he's more concerned about completing his Batman story , than throwing down gauntlets about what he does, or doesn't want to happen ,after he's completed the saga .

 

[The Lazarus Pit]

I think it will end up happening.

I also agree they need to scrap the Brave and the Bold idea. Build up the Batfamily slowly, starting with Grayson as Robin.

Starting with Nightwing and Damian skips over so much interesting character development- I was never down with that idea. Grayson becoming Robin and then Nightwing is such an interesting story that in my opinion shouldn’t be relegated to flashbacks or references. They can get to Damian eventually but they should take their time.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

The Brave And The Bold idea doesn't need to be scrapped because it never had a release date to begin with, or a firm production timeline. Its a movie in development. So there is nothing stopping Gunn from having solo Batman movies set before Damian as Robin is introduced, or introducing other Robins before Damian shows up. If anything, it might be the best thing for the movie to get the audience to invest in Batman's other relationships with his other BatFamily members (and possibly his relationship with Talia) before adding Damian to the mix.

 

[donuts]

I think it will end up happening.

I don't think it will.

We'll get a separate DCU Batman.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

If it does happen, I think they should stick with eventually doing Brave and The Bold, but part ways with Andy.

Maybe get someone who has worked with Reeves a lot before to write/direct like Drew Goddard, I feel like that guy has been waiting for his true big break for years

 

[BatLobster]

I think it’s worth trying to consider something things from Reeves’ perspective for a moment.

You are trying to tell a complete story and make your mark on this franchise, but ultimately you know you’re just leasing out the character from the studio. You don’t own it, and you know they’re going to do whatever they want with the character when you’re done…maybe even before you’re done. But you also know that right now, you’re basically the one proven success they’ve got going. And they would LOVE to have a proven success in this new DCU they’re trying to build from scratch, while avoiding the brand confusion/dilution of having two simultaneous Batman franchises. So you’re holding some cards. Finishing your story without having to be beholden to anything other than your own creative vision is a non-negotiable and they’re willing to give you that. But then it begs the question, what’s on the other side of that for you?

One possibility is you get to continue to be involved with this character that you love (and collect fat paychecks) in a producing/overseeing capacity, no longer carrying the full responsibility of writing/directing these things but being a creative shepherd just like for all these spinoffs and shows. Now it’s possible he could do all of that and be involved with DCU Batman, sort of how Nolan was “involved” with the Snyderverse (but not really post-MoS). But I think as long as WB is looking to keep Reeves involved with developing Batman projects at the studio in some capacity, the possibility of a big crossover is always going to be looming. Even if they have to pull some sort of multiverse stunt to make it happen.