The Dark Knight In Heath We Trust: A Ledgerbration: The TDK Joker Appreciation Thread - Part 1

[Indy Flash]

That's a great poster, though it seems kind of wrong Alfred and Lucius have bigger face pics than everyone else lol.

Thanks, your right didn't think of that till now.

 

[Indy Flash]

Joker Batman Poster The Dark Knight.

 

[The Joker]

Nice collage.

 

[Indy Flash]

Nice collage.

Thank you.

 

[The Joker]

We all knew this, but nice to see it confirmed by family; http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/04/24/heath-ledger-the-joker-batman-dark-knight-death/

 

[Brother Jack]

We all knew this, but nice to see it confirmed by family; http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/04/24/heath-ledger-the-joker-batman-dark-knight-death/

The myth about him "going too far" with the role and it contributing to his death has always bothered me. I've even had friends who have bought into it fully and I've tried to correct them. It's obscene to sensationalize a person's death, as often as it happens. At the end of the day it's none of our damn business.

 

[Boom]

He was so proud of what he had done in Batman. And I know he had plans for another Batman.

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...d/news-story/cdf49c4037f87b43e606e03f09374d1e

And my day is officially ruined.

 

[The Joker]

Oh man.....

 

[Ryan]

http://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...d/news-story/cdf49c4037f87b43e606e03f09374d1e

And my day is officially ruined.

Definitely bittersweet for me. It confirms what I suspected all along but makes me continue to wonder as to what could have been. Great post.

 

[shauner111]

What she said was very vague. He probably had some ideas on how to approach things differently IF he was called back for a third film or whatever. It doesn't confirm that him and Chris talked about situations for Joker to return or anything like that.

Once again, i still don't think he would have been in the film for more than a few scenes.

 

[Ryan]

Well she does say that he was to return for a third film. In what capacity we don't know yet, but hopefully more light can be shed some day. Just great to have this confirmation though.

 

[shauner111]

Of course he was. Bale and the rest were set for 3 films too. Of course they were down for him to return. That's a no brainer for both parties. But it doesn't guarantee that Nolan was going to return. Or that it would have been a big role.

 

[The Joker]

So much for the claims Joker was done after TDK. Nice to have that officially debunked. Heath wouldn't be making plans for another movie unless he and Nolan had discussed him coming back for another.

 

[Ryan]

So much for the claims Joker was done after TDK. Nice to have that officially debunked. Heath wouldn't be making plans for another movie unless he and Nolan had discussed him coming back for another.

Exactly my thinking.

 

[BaelaTargaryen]

 

[Rodrigo90]

"Check it out, Lisa. I'm Batman!"
"I don't think the real Batman would have his face painted, or have a wonky symbol with his name written across it to remind everybody of who he was."
"He would on Halloween!"

 

[StormC]

So much for the claims Joker was done after TDK. Nice to have that officially debunked. Heath wouldn't be making plans for another movie unless he and Nolan had discussed him coming back for another.

From a producer standpoint, too, after the smash success of TDK/Heath's Joker, there'd be little incentive to not include him in the third movie. It's hard to say what it would look like though, since I doubt Nolan was giving the story a lot of serious thought until after TDK came out. (Maybe something like his Dark Knight Returns role since that was a big part of the third film's inspiration.)

 

[Rorschach2012]

What she said was very vague. He probably had some ideas on how to approach things differently IF he was called back for a third film or whatever. It doesn't confirm that him and Chris talked about situations for Joker to return or anything like that.

Once again, i still don't think he would have been in the film for more than a few scenes.

I think it would've been a fairly significant role.

In the end, the League of Shadows were sort of the main villain of TDKT. I bet if Ledger came back, Joker would've been seen as the overarching villain of the whole thing.

I bet the ending of TDKR would've changed. Something along the lines of Joker's death in TDKReturns or the final scene of TKJ.

 

[BatLobster]

In the end, the League of Shadows were sort of the main villain of TDKT. I bet if Ledger came back, Joker would've been seen as the overarching villain of the whole thing.

Joker being an overarching villain for the whole trilogy doesn't quite work, as Joker didn't have anything to do with the plot of BB (you can't really count the Joker card tease in the epilogue). He'd only be an overarching villain of the second two movies this way.

My guess is the LoS would've returned in some capacity to bookend the trilogy regardless, but Joker still could've been integrated into the storyline somehow. More of a fusion of BB and TDK than simply a TDK 2.0. Which is basically what we got anyhow, as Harvey Dent's legacy and the events of TDK still had a big impact on the state we find Gotham and the main characters in. Joker may not be mentioned by name in TDKR, but you can still feel the weight of his impact.

 

[shauner111]

So i watched the documentary. I enjoyed it (and felt quite sad by the end of it). But it was way too short. Maybe there's an extended version waiting to be released? Everything was so quick and on the surface. Every project including the time spent on the Joker role was handled like a race to the finish line. Wasted opportunity even though there were some funny or interesting bits.

 

[JackWhite]

I just watched the documentary today and I'd have to agree with Shauner, it did feel fairly brief. The part where one of Heath's friends quoted him saying he had to stay busy, because he didn't think he had much time left was very prophetic.

Heath really was an amazing talent, who was just beginning to tap into his true potential before his untimely passing.

 

[BatLobster]

I'm pretty sure that the version that aired on Spike is a cut-down version and the one that had the brief theatrical run and is now available for purchase on iTunes is closer to 90 minutes.

Haven't watched it yet myself.

 

[shauner111]

Hmm. The one I watched came to an hour, cut commercials.

 

[JackWhite]

I'm pretty sure I saw the full version. It's definitely a good watch. Batlobster, you should definitely check it out.

 

[shauner111]

So I didn't see the full version.