Interstellar - Part 4

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I think most of the problems comes from Kurtzman/Orci. It's amazing that they have worked on more than a handful of big movies, and have yet to deliver a good script. I really don't get why people continue to hire them. Yeah those strong scripts in Into Darkness, Transformers 2 and Cowboys and Aliens really shines.

On a more Nolan-related topic, I am so excited for this movie. I think it has the potential to be one of his best movies yet.
 
I can't believe they did something that hadn't been done before yet still managed to make an extremely by-the-numbers sequel. I adore ST09 but Into Darkness was such a major disappointment.
 
Yeah, Kurtzman/Orci have done considerable damage to big franchise films two summers in a row as far as I'm concerned (STID and ASM2). I'm glad they're no longer a writing team.

I'd like to see Abrams and Jonah Nolan collaborate on a feature some day, given that they're already in business together on Person of Interest and now Westworld.
 
I think in a BTS featurette for TDKR he mentioned that they had something like 500 effects shots in the film, which was comparatively much lower to most modern blockbusters. I don't recall him saying that was a self-imposed limit though, I think it's just as a result of his mandate to shoot as much in camera as possible.
 
Yes , it's even less than the Dark Knight which has around 700 VFX shots. Which collides with what Marvolo wrote about some sort of limits he imposed to himself. When he has already surpassed them .
 
^ Not to mention he's said that the post schedule on Interstellar is much longer than usual for him because of all the visual effects. Also, about ILM/Disney not using models anymore (a few pages back)... Kennedy mentioned they have a record number of models being built for Episode VII.
 
Eh I disagree. And I assume we are talking of STID. I will agree the Marcus family was terribly done. But Spock/Kirk had a strong arc and it was I think very good. As a Trek fan myself I will agree the plot was a hodgepodge of all the other great films crammed together. But even though the story had some problems, they mainly are seen only by Trek fans. I have many film buffs like myself that enjoyed the hell out of the film because they were not Trek fans so they were not bothered by the things pulled from lore and mixed together in the plot. As a film on it's own, it has some weak points, but it was still the only blockbuster of last year that I actually enjoyed.

As for Interstellar, it is perfect for Nolan because it's more "pure sci-fi" It may be harder for him to do something like SW that reaches into the realm of "fantasy" much more often.

Even as an else-worlds "What would Kirk and Spock do if they had traded places?" is the answer to that question really "Spock would act just like William Shatner?" Also they did such a poor job establishing Kahn that they literally had to have Old Spock show up and explain to the characters and to the audience why they should even care who he is. The film has pretty much zero consequences or stakes, killing off a character and bringing him back 5 minutes later. True they brought Spock back to life in the old films, not that that was the best idea to begin with, but even then it took major sacrifices to do so. Its less a matter of being hung up as a fan and more to do with the fact that the film had absolutely dreadful story telling, relying upon appropriating beats from an iconic film to draw out an emotional response. There are similar problems in Super 8, a movie I actually enjoy very much, but it tries its damnedest to have an E.T. ending without having the kind of story to back that up. Its unearned and unsupported. JJ is good at getting at the texture of things but fumbles the content.
 
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Even as an else-worlds "What would Kirk and Spock do if they had traded places?" is the answer to that question really "Spock would act just like William Shatner?" Also they did such a poor job establishing Kahn that they literally had to have Old Spock show up and explain to the characters and to the audience why they should even care who he is. The film has pretty much zero consequences or stakes, killing off a character and bringing him back 5 minutes later. True they brought Spock back to life in the old films, not that that was the best idea to begin with, but even then it took major sacrifices to do so. Its less a matter of being hung up as a fan and more to do with the fact that the film had absolutely dreadful story telling, relying upon appropriating beats from an iconic film to draw out an emotional response. There are similar problems in Super 8, a movie I actually enjoy very much, but it tries its damnedest to have an E.T. ending without having the kind of story to back that up. Its unearned and unsupported. JJ is good at getting at the texture of things but fumbles the content.

I still think STID's story works enough. Yes I don't deny the hodgepodge of all the stories together, and the explanation etc, but it still works as an entertaining adventure. To me still better then a lot of most the TNG films, and V/III. But I think the story telling still worked enough. Even with "picky" critics, the films still was received well. I think the characterization still worked enough to pull the film through. And I think giving Spock the reversal actually worked to see that half human side. And cement a relationship between the two.

I agree that Super 8 the third act with the Alien, he fumbled with that. Really Super 8 was a film that was about kids and coming to age by making a film together. Later the "alien" story was put in. Which the first 2 acts did great with, but the alien story in the third act fizzled. As with you I enjoy the film a lot.

However ST09 was brilliant. Ya it was Trek light but as a story it earned everything in it. And I think STID was more of the script problem then anything else. Which is why I fear for the third one because of Robert circling around the director's chair.

But I think with each film JJ seems to learn. He admitted the faults with STID, and poked fun at himself with lens flare etc.

But when it comes to SW, I think he is the one to have. I think it's one thing he is extremely passionate about. I think (which is rare) dark b is right on that. JJ unlike Trek cares about SW, and I know will do great with it. I think it's one thing he truly gets.

As for Nolan, the more I think about it, I don't know if he could do a SW film. I think a film like CEOT3K he could. Which this seems to be pulling from.
 
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According to Nolanfaps, which itself got the info from someone in IMBD, Caine doesn't say [BLACKOUT]"You aren't meant to save the world, you are meant to lead it", [/BLACKOUT]that was a mistake, he says [BLACKOUT]"We aren't meant to save the world, we are meant to leave it". [/BLACKOUT]

Which sounds much better. Corresponding to the poster better.
 
According to @lbmovieguide, the trailer will debut online this Friday at 10 AM PST. And we might see a bootleg of this the day before that. Of course, we're not allow to post bootlegs here.
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Totally unexpected but this will be attached to Godzilla when I see it on Wednesday (not in the US), very excited, playing the teaser & Zimmer music in a loop :D
 
I'm seeing Godzilla tonight but I highly doubt I'll see the trailer. Early screenings rarely have them in my experience. If by some chance there is, however, I'll be happy to report everything I can on it.
 
They're definitely aiming at the heart. :awesome:
 
According to @lbmovieguide, the trailer will debut online this Friday at 10 AM PST. And we might see a bootleg of this the day before that. Of course, we're not allow to post bootlegs here.
https://***********/lbmovieguide
My heart rate just increased.
 
Was Anne featured?

One quick shot of her in astronaut gear and that's it.

I have a feeling her character is going to steal the show, so they're saving her for as long as possible.
 
One quick shot of her in astronaut gear and that's it.

I have a feeling her character is going to steal the show, so they're saving her for as long as possible.
Even still, my heart rate has increased further. Can't wait to see it!
 
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