Interstellar - Part 4

[E.NormusJohnson]

The only thing I'm hoping (having not read the earlier script) is that they don't make the leap of knowing how to manipulate a WH into where/when they want go. From my very basic understanding of Thorne's work the fundamental theory about WH's is that their end product is neither predictable or consistent.

...that is unless John Crichton makes a cameo.

 

[titansupes]

Nice trailer, I'm sold.
Question : I get that Earth is slowly dieing for whatever reason ( becoming a desert, resources dried ? ) but what are they exactly looking for in space ? A new planet to settle ?

I imagine so -

"We aren't mean to save the world. We're meant to leave it."

 

[Green Goblin]

I really like Nolan but I thought this trailer sucked.

 

[Donut]

Movies like Avatar did the same thing. Eh first two trailers. But the third trailer wowed. So lets see what happens here

 

[Jaspertian1105]

The trailer was pretty meh for me, im not a fan of Nolan. Memento and Prestige were his best movies, the rest of it wasn't bad movies but i don't like his sensibilities.

The whole theme of the movie seems pretty bleak, just run away instead of fixing our mistakes and be better. I don't know how a wormhole and the lack of crops are related, time travel probably, I don't see Nolan truly going Sci Fi and introducing aliens, the whole thing seems shot with the same ugly filter every time, its probably his style but i don't particularly care for it.

maybe more trailers will offer more clues but so far i don't like were this is going

 

[E.NormusJohnson]

The trailer was pretty meh for me, im not a fan of Nolan. Memento and Prestige were his best movies, the rest of it wasn't bad movies but i don't like his sensibilities.

The whole theme of the movie seems pretty bleak, just run away instead of fixing our mistakes and be better. I don't know how a wormhole and the lack of crops are related, time travel probably, I don't see Nolan truly going Sci Fi and introducing aliens, the whole thing seems shot with the same ugly filter every time, its probably his style but i don't particularly care for it.

maybe more trailers will offer more clues but so far i don't like were this is going

How do you fix a dying planet? The whole premise is a sense of desperation/exploration/adventure. That's the whole idea of the bleakness of the early shots of earth in the trailer... that we're "forced" to leave.

 

[Tequilla]

The trailer was pretty meh for me, im not a fan of Nolan. Memento and Prestige were his best movies, the rest of it wasn't bad movies but i don't like his sensibilities.

The whole theme of the movie seems pretty bleak, just run away instead of fixing our mistakes and be better. I don't know how a wormhole and the lack of crops are related, time travel probably, I don't see Nolan truly going Sci Fi and introducing aliens, the whole thing seems shot with the same ugly filter every time, its probably his style but i don't particularly care for it.

maybe more trailers will offer more clues but so far i don't like were this is going

Ugly filter ?

You do know how he (and his dp) photographs the films , right ?

 

[Jaspertian1105]

By ugly filter i mean his pictures look very sterile, almost no color, saturation is super low. Its not something only Nolan does, i think many blockbusters do the same , Man of steel for example shots the same way.You cant even see the blue in superman suits or the yellow in the emblem. I see that they want to make thing gritty and more realistic and all that stuff, but reality is much more saturated, is an artistic choice that i don't approve but well that is just my view.

And fixing a dying planet i mean that its just so little faith in the power of humanity and do change the odds, that we have to run away instead of fixing the issues that we have. I mean "we are meant to leave the world?" , i don't like that pessimistic way of looking into the future and humanity, the premise of Nolan is just humanity failed and will run for a miracle reset button. I personally don't like that premise if that's what it is, if everyone else enjoys it good for them

 

[slumcat]

People have been saying this will be the most realistic sci-fi movie ever made. But isn't this about worm holes? Those are obviously just theoretical?

 

[Black Narcissus]

People have been saying this will be the most realistic sci-fi movie ever made. But isn't this about worm holes? Those are obviously just theoretical?

Not theoretical.

 

[slumcat]

They obviously are hypothetical! You think they are real?

 

[BatLobster]

I think when people say "realistic" they just mean in the sense that real theories are the basis of the plot to the point that a physicist is an executive producer on the movie.

"Realistic" is a word that gets both misused and misinterpreted a lot of the time in relation to movies.

 

[Tequilla]

By ugly filter i mean his pictures look very sterile, almost no color, saturation is super low. Its not something only Nolan does, i think many blockbusters do the same , Man of steel for example shots the same way.You cant even see the blue in superman suits or the yellow in the emblem. I see that they want to make thing gritty and more realistic and all that stuff, but reality is much more saturated, is an artistic choice that i don't approve but well that is just my view.

Snyder crush colors. He does that often.

Nolan actually doesn't do any of that. Most of his photographic colors are very pristine . His color timings are very balanced. What you see actually , most of it is really how the lens captures it.

What he also doesn't do is heightening the contrasts with filters , which is something you see in a lot of movies .

 

[Black Narcissus]

They obviously are hypothetical! You think they are real?

In the movie they are.

 

[Tequilla]

They obviously are hypothetical! You think they are real?

They are actually solutions for Einstein equations.

 

[slumcat]

Snyder crush colors. He does that often.

Nolan actually doesn't do any of that. Most of his photographic colors are very pristine . His color timings are very balanced. What you see actually , most of it is really how the lens captures it.

What he also doesn't do is heightening the contrasts , with filters which is something you see in a lot of movies .

No, I distinctly remember watching some features for TDK where it showed that a heavy blue pall was digitally added in post production to almost the entire movie. Even the contrast in TDK is very over-heated, so there is definitely digital manipulation there.

 

[slumcat]

They are actually solutions for Einstein equations.

They are a theory. No scientist would say they are factual or even realistic.

There are all sorts of solutions to Einstein's equation. They remain hypothetical (like gravitons) untill proven otherwise.

 

[Tequilla]

What digitally post production ? Nolan dips film for color timing....

The man never did a digital intermediate for color.

 

[slumcat]

In the movie they are.

Then I wouldn't call the movie or its premise "realistic".

 

[Tequilla]

They are a theory. No scientist would say they are factual or even realistic.

There are all sorts of solutions to Einstein's equation. They remain hypothetical (like gravitons) untill proven otherwise.

I was just saying what they really are t:

 

[slumcat]

What digitally post production ? Nolan dips film for color timing....

The man never did a digital intermediate for color.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7VOA4RANM8

See this. Every shot had a blue tint added. I dunno whether he did it through dyes or digitally, but the film you see is not how it was shot without manipulation. There obviously was some manipulation, as there always is.

 

[Black Narcissus]

Then I wouldn't call the movie or its premise "realistic".

Who did? I think this will be Nolan's most heart-warm movie. Them feelings, mang.

 

[BatLobster]

Yeah, Nolan is famous for never using a DI for color. One of the few directors left in Hollywood that does all his color-timing the old fashioned way, etc.

And there is a huge difference between the way Nolan uses color and the way Snyder uses color. Snyder's images are crushed, high-contrast, ultra-stylized. Nolan is much more naturalistic.

 

[Tequilla]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7VOA4RANM8

See this. Every shot had a blue tint added. I dunno whether he did it through dyes or digitally, but the film you see is not how it was shot without manipulation. There obviously was some manipulation, as there always is.

This is conforming with the rest of the film. After the film is timed colored , the vfx shots need to look the same. And they are probably working with plates already colored.

Nolan color times the negatives. I know it sounds crazy in this era...but he does it. The blueish effect in some scenes is obtained by exposing the film. Off course there's manipulations. It starts with the lights , the lenses , the gels , etc. But he's very pristine in most of his work.

 

[E.NormusJohnson]

And fixing a dying planet i mean that its just so little faith in the power of humanity and do change the odds, that we have to run away instead of fixing the issues that we have. I mean "we are meant to leave the world?" , i don't like that pessimistic way of looking into the future and humanity, the premise of Nolan is just humanity failed and will run for a miracle reset button. I personally don't like that premise if that's what it is, if everyone else enjoys it good for them

How is exploring new options pessimistic? Nothing lasts forever and the planet certainly won't no matter how much the "power of humanity" has to do with it. I don't look at the planet no longer able to sustain our population with food as a "failure". It's just run it's course and now is the time to find a new horizon/future elsewhere.