Interstellar - Part 6

[Donut]

If this was not a Christopher Nolan movie. You guys would be treating this like a regular Sci-Fi movie

 

[Tim_Riggins]

If you really think that, it's a shame. Really special movies can change your life, or the way you look at the world, a movie is not just made to be just entertainment, unless we're talking about Transformers.

Movies can make you feel so much, I know there are certain emotions I only feel through movies.

So, you're wrong.

 

[BatLobster]

I think the intention of getting people excited about science and space exploration has been pretty crystal clear from the start.

Whether it actually works or not is anyone's guess, but when you have an astrophysicist writing a book about the science of the movie and online classes designed to teach the science of the movie to kids, that's something pretty special. And even if you just want to call that marketing (which it also is), it's a wonderful way to market. Science is a great thing to be 'selling' to people.

The next generation of astrophysicists and astronauts will remember when they saw this movie.

If you really think that, it's a shame. Really special movies can change your life, or the way you look at the world, a movie is not just made to be just entertainment, unless we're talking about Transformers.

Movies can make you feel so much, I know there are certain emotions I only feel through movies.

So, you're wrong.

Pretty much. If you think the only purpose movies can serve is entertainment, then that's a pretty narrow way to look at it.

If this was not a Christopher Nolan movie. You guys would be treating this like a regular Sci-Fi movie

Not true really, the reason I'm saying this stuff is because it's becoming more and more clear how closely Kip Thorne worked with Nolan on the movie and the emphasis on actual theories. When you have one of the world's leading astrophysicists coming with actual equations to justify the science of the movie, that off the bat makes it something different than a run of the mill sci-fi.

 

[The Shape]

I thought movies are made for

A) As a job

B) For entertainment

This is a movie & nothing more

If this was not a Christopher Nolan movie. You guys would be treating this like a regular Sci-Fi movie

And your point is...?

This is a film by one of the most popular living filmmakers, a director that many consider to be extremely talented. Is it wrong to get excited for his upcoming film or to be interested in the science behind the film which is being heavily promoted?

Instead of being so concerned with what this film is NOT, you should try to allow yourself to see it for what it IS. I do feel sorry for narrow-minded folks such as yourself.

 

[DeadPresident]

Yeah, things like Schindler's List and and Hotel Rwanda were hugely entertaining.

 

[The Shape]

Yeah, things like Schindler's List and and Hotel Rwanda were hugely entertaining.

They were also jobs.

 

[DeadPresident]

If I was working in the industry I'd be very disappointed if my job was just to translate genocides onto film...

It's a pity movies can't communicate grander ideas or concepts to moviegoers.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

Guessing Donut has never seen Kurosawa's Ikiru.

 

[DarkKnight88]

They were also jobs.

Not really.

Spielberg forewent a salary for Schindler's List, calling it "blood money", and believed the film would flop.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schindler's_List

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

If this was not a Christopher Nolan movie. You guys would be treating this like a regular Sci-Fi movie

I think cinema can be deeper than you do and I look forward to the film but yeah this place routinely has me rolling my eyes. It's just super OTT.

 

[Schlosser85]

A special movie can be more than a job or entertainment if you possess the intelligence to recognize that.

 

[Deserana]

I think cinema can be deeper than you do and I look forward to the film but yeah this place routinely has me rolling my eyes. It's just super OTT.

Why though? The film is clearly a big event sci-fi film that is seems like it could be very relevant to today's world. What is so eye rolling about people wanting it to be like that?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Nolan fans treat all of his films as if they are life changing and I find that to be humorous. If one has that mindset of course they wouldn't understand my reaction.

 

[Faora]

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[BatLobster]

This really isn't a Nolan thing. It's a being passionate about space exploration thing.

I think Cosmos was very important and I think this movie is in keeping with that same spirit.

It's about making science cool on a mainstream level.

 

[Deserana]

Nolan fans treat all of his films as if they are life changing and I find that to be humorous. If one has that mindset of course they wouldn't understand my reaction.

But why are you just saying everyone's excitement is because of Nolan? Myself and many other posters on here are very fascinated on the subject the film explores and it just looks like a great movie.

You dont think it looks great, fine but there's no need to **** on everyone who is. Why is it so hard of a stretch to think Nolan could pull off a big film that maybe touches the zeitgeist?

 

[DeadPresident]

I think cinema can be deeper than you do and I look forward to the film but yeah this place routinely has me rolling my eyes. It's just super OTT.

The Nolan thing on this board is annoying. The guy is an above average film maker with a unique style. But because of his involvement with TDKT and people canonizing his Batman entries people feel the need to over-criticize him to "compensate" for the significant love for his films some people communicate.

Both sets of commentators are highly irritating, Nolan might not be the greatest film maker ever but it would be asinine to suggest he doesn't have a style or create movies that are almost exclusively executed correctly by him. If that weren't the case then every single space exploration movie would have the same discussion surrounding it as Interstellar does. Perhaps this movie actually deserves the excitement precisely because Nolan tends to know how to execute normal ideas or concepts in an interesting way.

The mobs that decry him and his fans should just come out and say they think The Prestige is identical to Now You See Me and TDKT isn't much better than Hulk or Daredevil and that Interstellar = Oblivion.

But why are you just saying everyone's excitement is because of Nolan? Myself and many other posters on here are very fascinated on the subject the film explores and it just looks like a great movie.

You dont think it looks great, fine but there's no need to **** on everyone who is. Why is it so hard of a stretch to think Nolan could pull off a big film that maybe touches the zeitgeist?

Because some people are aping the popular misconception that because Nolan's films use extensive SFX they can't have anything more than superficial appeal and that any sophisticated commentary or contemplative message is secondary to the shiny shiny boom boom flash. My view at least.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

You haven't caught me dude, I'm not a Nolan hater and The Prestige is my favorite Nolan flick after Inception. I am a fan of Nolan, I just think a lot of his fans are over the top. And I don't like it. His haters are such a tiny minority that it's silly to pretend that they are on the same level as the over the top fans.

I'm not saying Interstellar isn't a life changing once in a lifetime perfect experience. Maybe it will be all that but I'm not going to automatically assume that it is because he directed it.

EDIT: Seriously on what planet is Nolan some sort of underdog? Honestly that's why I can't take 30% of his fanbase seriously.

 

[BatLobster]

I agree, both extremes can be annoying. And if his haters are a minority, they're a REALLY loud minority because I see it every day on these boards and elsewhere throughout the internet. Then there's also the "I like Nolan but **** you Nolanites" people who are constantly scolding the more passionate side of the fanbase, and that's gotten old too.

But, hey, I love Nolan, he's probably my favorite filmmaker working today and I'm not ashamed of that regardless of all the hyperbole (of both sides) that gets thrown around. It's not only about me thinking he's a great filmmaker, he also seems to consistently explore topics with his movies that are already of great interest to me. It always just feels like a win/win to me with him.

I can promise you though, if it were Spielberg or Cameron or Cauron who was making Interstellar and the same attention to detail was being shown to the science, and Kip Thorne was involved, etc...I would be just excited and I'd be ready to embrace this movie as an important cultural event.

Nolan has just become the "it" director now, so it is what it is I guess.

I sincerely hope the conversation around this movie is more about the science and less about the same ol' "Nolan is great"! "No he's just good!" "No he sucks!" "No he's GOD!!"

 

[redfirebird2008]

And if his haters are a minority, they're a REALLY loud minority because I see it every day on these boards and elsewhere throughout the internet. Then there's also the "I like Nolan but **** you Nolanites" people who are constantly scolding the more passionate side of the fanbase, and that's gotten old too.

Yep. The anti-crowd is pretty loud and they sure do spend a lot of time talking about something they dislike. I don't like Michael Bay's version of Transformers and you won't find me in those threads. It is a waste of time to do that.

 

[Deserana]

Being OTT I just ignore, what's frustrating is when people pop up like "you guys are looking forward to this film far too much"

That's not too Spidey_Guy as after his last message I get where they are coming from but people who are like "its just a movie Nolan wont do anything special", that may be true but I can hope it will be something great.

It's not like we are bigging up Taken 3 as some game changer. It's a film that is taking a realistic approach that has said is tackling bold ideas and the cast have said is extremely ambitious. It deals with a whole host of scientific ideas as well as looks to be quite touching with the family story. I dont think it's too far to feel this could be a film everyone will talk about especially after early reviews so I dont see why some are like "calm down, calm down".

I'm not saying this WILL be thee event film I'm just hoping it is. If it isn't so what as long as it's good.

 

[redfirebird2008]

Nolan fans treat all of his films as if they are life changing and I find that to be humorous.

You said you are a Nolan fan yourself, so how can you make that statement about "Nolan fans" in general?

I'm a Nolan fan too but I don't view any of his movies as life-changing. I just enjoy them as entertainment. Nothing more. Nothing less.

 

[James.B]

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[BatLobster]

Being OTT I just ignore, what's frustrating is when people pop up like "you guys are looking forward to this film far too much"

That's not too Spidey_Guy as after his last message I get where they are coming from but people who are like "its just a movie Nolan wont do anything special", that may be true but I can hope it will be something great.

It's not like we are bigging up Taken 3 as some game changer. It's a film that is taking a realistic approach that has said is tackling bold ideas and the cast have said is extremely ambitious. It deals with a whole host of scientific ideas as well as looks to be quite touching with the family story. I dont think it's too far to feel this could be a film everyone will talk about especially after early reviews so I dont see why some are like "calm down, calm down".

I'm not saying this WILL be thee event film I'm just hoping it is. If it isn't so what as long as it's good.

Yeah, I just see this film as potential conversation sparker. Nolan's had a knack for touching on the zeigeist in recent years and again I point to the success of Cosmos, the timing for a movie with these kinds of ideas and messages may be just right to continue rolling that ball up the hill.

A movie of course won't single-handedly change the world, to suggest that would be pretty ludicrous. But if we're ever going to explore more of the universe and start seriously thinking about the distant future of our species, something needs to be the cheerleader for it in a mainstream way. NASA thrives when the average person gets excited about space, that's a simple historical fact. This movie could be just one in a wave of attempts to get people psyched about it again. And again, it's a wonderful aspiration for a movie to have whether or not it can actually accomplish anything.

 

[DeadPresident]

You haven't caught me dude, I'm not a Nolan hater and The Prestige is my favorite Nolan flick after Inception. I am a fan of Nolan, I just think a lot of his fans are over the top. And I don't like it. His haters are such a tiny minority that it's silly to pretend that they are on the same level as the over the top fans.

I'm not saying Interstellar isn't a life changing once in a lifetime perfect experience. Maybe it will be all that but I'm not going to automatically assume that it is because he directed it.

EDIT: Seriously on what planet is Nolan some sort of underdog? Honestly that's why I can't take 30% of his fanbase seriously.

I wasn't trying to catch you, dude. And I wasn't trying to imply that you were a Nolan hater, if that's how it came across.

I don't think Nolan is an underdog, but I could see how people would come to that conclusion. I say that because often he doesn't get quite as much credit as he may deserve. At the risk of being called a Nolan fanboy, I have a hunch if Steven Spielberg was responsible for Inception, or David Fincher came out with The Prestige the fans (i.e popular belief on forums like this) would have been extolling the highest honors on them.

But like a previous user said because of Nolan's popularity I feel like some people need to "even it out" and they give him less credit and emphasize his flaws more than they might for other film makers. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe I'm a closet Nolan-groupie and I don't know it yet.