Interstellar - Part 8

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These are the most beautiful visusls we've had in a space opera in decades.

James Gunn and JJ Abrams should take notes. We saw a massive black hole with an accretion disk, coherent alien worlds, coherent spaceship designs, an awesome robot, etc.

I disagree but each of us has different tastes. Coherence is not equal to entertainment or appealing visuals, and how coherent was this whole thing is extremely debatable. And the robots were giant Deep Blues with sassy personality, not very appealing or interesting for me, not too mention just a not very subtle homage to Kubrick. 30 years later and that sequence at the end still blows away anything i saw in interstellar
 
These are the most beautiful visusls we've had in a space opera in decades.

James Gunn and JJ Abrams should take notes. We saw a massive black hole with an accretion disk, coherent alien worlds, coherent spaceship designs, an awesome robot, etc.

What on earth are you talking about?

Guardians and Intersteller are completely different entities. Enough of this nonsense.
 
These are the most beautiful visusls we've had in a space opera in decades.

James Gunn and JJ Abrams should take notes. We saw a massive black hole with an accretion disk, coherent alien worlds, coherent spaceship designs, an awesome robot, etc.

This is nothing but pure trolling and you know it. Seriously why are you trying to bring up those movies other than to start a fan fight? You are better than that, think about what you post next time.

moving on.....
 
The costs were split among three studios and the film reportedly came $10M under budget. Nobody will be hurting.

Agreed. While there's probably disappointment that it didn't make Inception numbers, I think Inception was a summer release and I personally felt there was more buzz about that film than this one, although I think Interstellar is the better film of the two.

Going up against Big Hero 6, I think did hurt it a bit. Yes they are different demographics, but I think alot of parents who would have gotten a baby sitter for the kids to go see Interstellar, perhaps just decided to go to a family movie weekend with the kids and wait on Interstellar.

This movie will have very good word of mouth, and great legs. I'm expecting a 3x or better multiplier, FWIW.
 
I don't really consider it that much of a defeat since BH6 was a pretty good flick. If it had to lose to something....
 
This is nothing but pure trolling and you know it. Seriously why are you trying to bring up those movies other than to start a fan fight? You are better than that, think about what you post next time.

moving on.....

Believe it or not, not every comparison is trolling.

I was thinking long before interstellar that I really wanted Hollywood to show us new worlds. The worlds in most space operas are not visually appealing or original for the most part, we're largely just seeing different interpretations of Coruscant and Naboo over and over again.

Science fiction, unlike other forms of stories, is not only about feelings. It's about exploring new places, new ideas, new societies, et cetera, it's about imagination, which unfortunately most scifi doesn't have.

So after much disappointment from other movies, seeing that water planet with the tidal wave was a huge goddamn thrill. We got to see something NEW, and to top it off it made sense in context and thus it was EARNED.

So yes, other filmmakers should take note, and I'm sure they will.
 
You may not have liked the movie, but are you telling me that STID didn't have some f***ing fantastic visuals?
 
Believe it or not, not every comparison is trolling.

I was thinking long before interstellar that I really wanted Hollywood to show us new worlds. The worlds in most space operas are not visually appealing or original for the most part, we're largely just seeing different interpretations of Coruscant and Naboo over and over again.

Science fiction, unlike other forms of stories, is not only about feelings. It's about exploring new places, new ideas, new societies, et cetera, it's about imagination, which unfortunately most scifi doesn't have.

So after much disappointment from other movies, seeing that water planet with the tidal wave was a huge goddamn thrill. We got to see something NEW, and to top it off it made sense in context and thus it was EARNED.

So yes, other filmmakers should take note, and I'm sure they will.

You are trolling, quit trying to pretend you're not with comments like that. The only comparable movies to this one off the top of my head are 2001 and Gravity, and yes I will admit it has better visuals than Gravity, I said as much.

Comparing GOTG, or ST/SW to Interstellar is stupid and if Nolan were here he would tell you it was stupid.

Quit trolling, you can talk about the film without trying to throw in digs at movies that have a totally different purpose.
 
You are trolling, quit trying to pretend you're not with comments like that. The only comparable movies to this one off the top of my head are 2001 and Gravity, and yes I will admit it has better visuals than Gravity, I said as much.

Comparing GOTG, or ST/SW to Interstellar is stupid and if Nolan were here he would tell you it was stupid.

Quit trolling, you can talk about the film without trying to throw in digs at movies that have a totally different purpose.

I made an honest effort to explain my point.

With thay said I guarantee you that some of the visuals used in this movie will now show up in other movies. We've seen a lot of black holes in movies, it's the first time we see a rotating one. Expect them to show up a lot.
 
Added spoiler tags, so you might want to edit too. :oldrazz: I think common courtesy is to wait until the movie's been out in wide release for a week.

I think the technology vastly improving in that time has to be the answer. I mean, to go from the dust bowl where the most important job is farmer, to [BLACKOUT]most/all of humanity living on a space station that they were JUST building 50 years before,[/BLACKOUT] is a pretty big jump! I think it's perfectly possible. I mean, look at the insane technological advances between 1920 and 2000.

The way that Chris shot it, it's ambiguous as to [BLACKOUT]whether the wormhole is gone[/BLACKOUT]. It seems that the [BLACKOUT]future humans purposely placed Cooper[/BLACKOUT] where he should be, at the end, and when it's done, either just the entrance or the whole thing is disassembled. The astronauts also refer to Gargantua as a [BLACKOUT]black hole, not the other end of a wormhole.[/BLACKOUT] So I'll have to watch it again and see how they keep that straight. But it would make more sense that it's gone, I think.

The time dilation near Gargantua and corresponding timeline mismatches may explain why most of earth is still on Cooper Station and not with Brand. Maybe she's literally just started, when Murph is already an elderly woman. Just because they don't show it, doesn't mean that Cooper hasn't reported on the mission. It's the easiest way to explain why elderly Murph knows that Brand is on a new planet, colonizing by herself.

And maybe Cooper is the only person who can pilot a large colonizing ship through a wormhole, but that doesn't explain why they'd coop him up (har har har) in a replica of his old farm, instead of going out and helping her if it were possible.

I think it's most likely that the wormhole is gone, and nobody knows how to get to this other planet. Maybe Cooper is actually going to see her personally, maybe he just needs to get out and do what he was born to do, which is explore.
I feel like the part about Brand at the end was more for thematic reasons than actual plot point reasons. Wouldn't be the first time Nolan's pulled something like that. :oldrazz:

Just thought of a part 2 to my question....

[BLACKOUT]So, are we just to assume then that Brand's colony at the end was spawned from the embryos? She looks like she hasn't aged, so that's what's throwing me.[/BLACKOUT]
 
I was looking through the Star Wars boards and remembered that nobody wanted Nolan because he wouldn't be able to do space visuals.
 
Just thought of a part 2 to my question....

[BLACKOUT]So, are we just to assume then that Brand's colony at the end was spawned from the embryos? She looks like she hasn't aged, so that's what's throwing me.[/BLACKOUT]
Well, as a scientist, that made sense to me. You have to prepare for things before you just let them loose or run the experiment, you know. :cwink:
 
I was looking through the Star Wars boards and remembered that nobody wanted Nolan because he wouldn't be able to do space visuals.
I still wouldn't want Nolan for Star Wars. Interstellar is nothing like Star War's aesthetic. I just don't think he's a good choice for that franchise.
 
8/10 maybe 9/10. i need to watch it again. there is no galaxy and no time where this would be a 10/10 or a masterpiece. its a good executed movie with a good story. there was no reason for this movie to be dumbed down for the 8-80 crowd. after TDK trilogy and Inception he had the power to make this for people with a functional brain. so for this alone it can not be 10/10.

i noticed something with the side characters. if you are a female character you need to cry. young and old Murph and Brand. but the male side characters didnt cry. interesting. is there something that Nolan wants to say to us. if you are a girl you need to cry when its tense? woow.

if this script was not written for Spielberg and then picked and directed by Nolan i would hated the ''Sunshine'' moment in the third act. but its nice it works. but its still a ''Sunshine'' moment.

if this was my first Nolan movie i would have been shocked with the little amount of footage of the alien planets and space. but its Nolan. he is obsessed with realism and practical effects. which means that the wire work for the zero gravity scenes had to be as simple and obvious ( yes obvious wire rigs) as possible.

i will pay two tickets and i liked the movie. so you Nolan fanatics can go back to the batman section. :oldrazz:
 
Just thought of a part 2 to my question....

[BLACKOUT]So, are we just to assume then that Brand's colony at the end was spawned from the embryos? She looks like she hasn't aged, so that's what's throwing me.[/BLACKOUT]
I think that's left unresolved?
 
i noticed something with the side characters. if you are a female character you need to cry. young and old Murph and Brand. but the male side characters didnt cry. interesting. is there something that Nolan wants to say to us. if you are a girl you need to cry when its tense? woow.

Nah... The male lead just already used up all the crying quota for the male characters. :oldrazz:
 
what an absolutely astounding film.

i'm still trying to digest how the film handled its characters, themes, plot, story...i've come away from it feeling like it was mostly successful in those areas, and there's some stuff in this film that is just absolutely heartwrenching, but then again i have a daughter so that might tie me to the main drama of the film in the way that it doesn't for others. thematically, there are some incredibly pointed questions that this film wants to ask in a way that is fairly simple and yet intricate and complex in their implications, visual and otherwise. in order to do that in the context of a blockbuster Hollywood film that wants most everyone to have some sort of idea of what's going on and also because Nolan is kind of the filmmaker who likes to be fairly clear about the questions he is posing, there is a lot of exposition and characters talking about ideas and whatnot. and i get that that is a bother for some people...but, ultimately, what Nolan is trying to do here is worth the bother.

then, just on a technical level...i mean, some questionable sound mixing aside, this movie is as complete a technical beauty as i've seen in a very long time. everything is clicking on all cylinders, the score is magnificent, and as a director Nolan managed to surprise even me, a fan. there is a level of giddy cinematic poetry to many of the sequences in this film that i quite simply was not prepared for. Nolan goes for sheer overwhelming POWER with the sound and image working together and it was as striking a visceral experience in the theater as i've had. he deserves a director nom, Zimmer deserves to win for score, and this film should be nominated in every technical category out there except for, again, maybe sound mixing.
 
oh, and aside from a couple moments where Nolan was probably just trying to move the story along, McConaughey totally brought it.

the transmissions scene, my goodness.
 
I was looking through the Star Wars boards and remembered that nobody wanted Nolan because he wouldn't be able to do space visuals.

To be perfectly fair as good as Interstellar looks I think Nolan is too grounded in his mentality to fully embrace a sci-fi film that doesn't adhere to real world laws. The word that best describes Nolan is 'plausible', it's about making things look like they could actually happen, the only time I think that's gotten the better of him was in Inception, there was no real reason for the final act of that film to not fully embrace the fact it was 4 levels of dreaming where literally anything is possible, there were elements of manipulation of dreams throughout the film but he never pushed it as far as it could have gone in that last act.
 
I still wouldn't want Nolan for Star Wars. Interstellar is nothing like Star War's aesthetic. I just don't think he's a good choice for that franchise.

Agreed. I love Nolan, I love Star Wars...but I would fear for both of them the day they ever combined.

Well, as a scientist, that made sense to me. You have to prepare for things before you just let them loose or run the experiment, you know. :cwink:

Sorry to be so dense...but could you please elaborate on that?
 
I still wouldn't want Nolan for Star Wars. Interstellar is nothing like Star War's aesthetic. I just don't think he's a good choice for that franchise.

Believe me, I don't either. I'm just focusing on assumed notions of Nolan as a visualist.
 
The sound mixing was so contradictory. Why stuff your film with exposition then make it hard to hear? Is this another challenge Nolan? Huh?
 
Sorry to be so dense...but could you please elaborate on that?
She has to set up the stuff for the embryos to grow in. They don't show it at all (and they gloss over the "surrogacy" talk very quickly), but I presume there's stuff on Endurance that's made to do it.

So she has to get the tents all set up for that happen, which is what we see at the end. Doesn't mean that the colony has been there all that long, or that there are scores of human children/teenagers waiting there for her. :funny:
 
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