Iron Fist Iron Fist General Discussion Thread - Part 3

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Iron Fist is Marvel's first real Netflix misfire: http://www.cutprintfilm.com/tv/tv-reviews/iron-fist/

 

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Jessica Henwick has been trained in Wushu martial arts since she was 16 and landed the lead role in CBBC show Spirit Warriors with Benedict Wong.
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If Collen Wing's fight scenes suck they I think it is probably down to the fight/stunt/action choreographer.

Brad Allan was attached to Ant-Man before Edgar left. Marvel TV should of hired Allan for these Netflix shows.

Allan is one of the best action/stunt co-ordinators and choreographers in the business. Various Jackie Chan movies, Edgar Wright films, Hellboy 2, Pacific Rim, Kick Ass, Kingsman: The Secret Service.

 

[MadVillainy]

Didn't watch any of the trailers, but not that surprised.
I just had a feeling when from the jump there were people complaining about the show, albeit for casting reasons

Still looking forward to it. I don't want to dig too deep into the reviews, what are the main complaints?

Also why the hell did they get the guy who ran the last few seasons of Dexter. What brain donor thought that was a good idea?

 

[Dark Raven]

Iron Fist is Marvel's first real Netflix misfire: http://www.cutprintfilm.com/tv/tv-reviews/iron-fist/

Is that spoiler filled or spoiler free?

 

[MadVillainy]

Is that spoiler filled or spoiler free?

A spoiler free Roundup is on The Independent. Can't link because I'm on phone

 

[Dark Raven]

Ok thanks. I looked it up and here are some reviews it quotes:


http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...ix-review-finn-jones-danny-rand-a7618121.html

The embargo dropped for reviews on Marvel and Netflix collab Iron Fist this morning, and it ain’t pretty.

The 13-episode first season (arriving 17 March) stars Finn Jones (Game of Thrones) as Danny Rand / Iron Fist, a presumed dead martial artist who returns to New York City to try and reclaim his family business.

Previous Netflix-distributed Marvel shows Jessica Jones and Luke Cage have gone down well with critics, but Iron Fist appears to be lacking a unique edge.

Here’s some pretty damning lines from early reviews:

Variety:

'Iron Fist is the most frustrating and ferociously boring example of Netflix Drift [pacing problems] in some time.'

'It takes forever for anything to happen on “Iron Fist,” and as it stumbles along, the uninspired production design, unexceptional cinematography, and painful dialogue fail to distract the viewer from the overall lack of depth, detail, or momentum.'

'Good luck, bingers: Getting through two episodes was a challenge.'

Polygon:

'I’m not surprised that Iron Fist isn’t a comedy. I’m surprised that it’s so bad. And it is laughably bad.'


Uproxx:

'If Iron Fist was an otherwise boring series with a hero who kicked butt in exciting ways early and often, I’d forgive the bland expository parts in the same way I do for a lot of action shows and movies. And if Finn Jones couldn’t fight but was otherwise a riveting screen presence blessed with sparkling dialogue and a compelling character arc, I’d get past the alleged living weapon’s lame physical prowess. But when neither part works at all, why would anyone but the most devout, masochistic Marvel completist want to watch?'

The Hollywood Reporter:

'Through six episodes, in addition to failing to introduce a main character I care about at all, Iron Fist hasn't given me any season-long arc/objective that I could describe for you, much less one I'm curious to see resolved.'

The Verge:

'Fans feared the worst when the series was announced, and all their fears came true.'

Look out for our review of the first episode shortly.

This looks like it could be a real snooze fest. I don't see myself binge watching this. It's likely to take weeks or even months to get through. If I even get through at all.

Hopefully this will be a wake-up call to Marvel that they can't just rest on their laurels.

Uproxx really sums it up.

 

[Jason Kane]

Knowing who the showrunner is now, this question comes to mind: The **** were Loeb and co thinking in hiring him?

 

[Rowsdower!]

Shame about the reviews. I'll still give it a chance obviously but this isn't inspiring a lot of confidence.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I can take a lot of crap when it comes to shows so it might be something that I pass the time with while I write or whatever. I mean if I can get through the mostly mediocre Santa Clarita Diet, it's hard to believe that I won't be able to get through Iron Fist.

 

[ImSGirl95]

It’s safe to say that, based on the first six episodes of “Iron Fist”, the series delivers a knock-out punch of chi-powered action, (and music) scoring another hit for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.! – Kung Fu Kingdom

The Marvel Netflix shows have consistently introduced new characters and fleshed out their stories. Each one shares a common trait–they contain hardcore grittiness and action. In the latest one, Iron Fist, we’ll meet Danny Rand. Trained in martial arts, the character and the story continues the high-octane tone and fight scenes we’ve come to expect. Despite being the fifth Marvel Netflix series, it’s not simply more of the same. We are seeing some new ground explored as another comic book character is brought to life. – Gamespot

For anyone who hasn’t read the comics, you may enjoy how the show doesn’t just give Danny’s identity or powers away too quickly. The show really takes its time in pulling the curtain back on Danny’s training with the monks, which I think was a smart choice. Like all the other Defendersverse characters, Danny is a reluctant hero and this primary season shows him wrestling with the decision to wade into the fight and use his gifts to save New York. Oh, and the opening credits are just perfect. A trademark of all the Netflix Marvel shows. – The Marvel Report
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[Web-Head]

Knowing who the showrunner is now, this question comes to mind: The **** were Loeb and co thinking in hiring him?

They gave him Inhumans too...

 

[UltimatePyro9]

Wow! That kinda sucks that Iron Fist is getting mediocre reviews. I'll still watch it, but my expectations will be lowered.

On an odd bright side, though, maybe this will get people to stop claiming that Marvel bribes the critics.

 

[MadVillainy]

They gave him Inhumans too...

The hell?

 

[marcvader]

Looking forward to seeing Loeb and Bucks response to the reviews.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Wow! That kinda sucks that Iron Fist is getting mediocre reviews. I'll still watch it, but my expectations will be lowered.

On an odd bright side, though, maybe this will get people to stop claiming that Marvel bribes the critics.

Nah, some people will continue their silly conspiracy theories.

 

[samsnee]

Not surprised by the reviews. The trailers didn't really do anything for me. It looks too bland and generic. DD had better looking fight scenes. JJ and Luke Cage had more interesting protagonists and villains.

 

[Dark Raven]

It’s safe to say that, based on the first six episodes of “Iron Fist”, the series delivers a knock-out punch of chi-powered action, (and music) scoring another hit for the Marvel Cinematic Universe.! – Kung Fu Kingdom

The Marvel Netflix shows have consistently introduced new characters and fleshed out their stories. Each one shares a common trait–they contain hardcore grittiness and action. In the latest one, Iron Fist, we’ll meet Danny Rand. Trained in martial arts, the character and the story continues the high-octane tone and fight scenes we’ve come to expect. Despite being the fifth Marvel Netflix series, it’s not simply more of the same. We are seeing some new ground explored as another comic book character is brought to life. – Gamespot

For anyone who hasn’t read the comics, you may enjoy how the show doesn’t just give Danny’s identity or powers away too quickly. The show really takes its time in pulling the curtain back on Danny’s training with the monks, which I think was a smart choice. Like all the other Defendersverse characters, Danny is a reluctant hero and this primary season shows him wrestling with the decision to wade into the fight and use his gifts to save New York. Oh, and the opening credits are just perfect. A trademark of all the Netflix Marvel shows. – The Marvel Report
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That might be an understatement if we have to wait until either the final episode or not at all this season.

 

[RaidenX]

Frick Critics

This looks lit

 

[Flint Marko]

I've had a bad feeling about this for a while. I'll reserve my judgement but yikes, doesn't look so good.

 

[Web-Head]

I think the rumors that Marvel didn't know what to do with Iron First were true

 

[Kane52630]

I think a lot of the reviews are hung up on Danny Rand being white which is pretty stupid.

 

[Dark Raven]

How can they not know what to do with it? Are they starting to second guess themselves now after being in the game this long and getting in this deep?

Just make it faithful to comics and don't try to turn it into something else. That's how all these other comic properties fared badly when they weren't confident in the source material.

I don't know if this will get a second chance to redeem itself. If it did, it would need a major reboot.

 

[Jason Kane]

They gave him Inhumans too...

That's just as worse. Surely Loeb should know Buck is TV poison after his Dexter tenure

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Should just done Heroes for Hire and Daughters of the Dragon

 

[SuperT]

I think a lot of the reviews are hung up on Danny Rand being white which is pretty stupid.

Well when you have a scene in the show that has Danny, a white male, telling Colleen how to run her own dojo correctly I can see why people may have a problem with it and that's just one scene. Lord know what else they have in the back half...