James Bond In Skyfall - - - - - Part 14

[ThePhantasm]

Quantum of Solace is a great Bond film. It just isn't as good as Casino Royale or Skyfall.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Quantum of Solace is a great Bond film. It just isn't as good as Casino Royale or Skyfall.

I personally like it more then most. It is definitely better the majority of Bond films and suffers from classic overreaction by many who latch on to the general, misguided position. I love when I see people try to rank it below such classics as "A View to a Kill", "Diamonds Are Forever", and "Tomorrow Never Dies" to name but a few. When I hear it is the worst, well I do wonder how many of these people have sat through "Moonraker" or "Die Another Day".

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

What are you talking about? His emotions at the end when Tracy dies is what most people give him praise for other than his action scenes, in fact, it's widely regarded as one of the best scenes in the entire series.

Lazenby is fine in the final scene. But elsewhere he has problems, especially in the investigation of Piz Gloria where he was so bad that they dubbed his voice. I'm also not a fan of his work in the Portuguese scenes earlier in the film. He's just too bland and wooden most of the time. This series depends upon the charisma of the actor playing Bond and it just isn't there. I have no doubts it would be much better if Connery was there.

On the plus side, Lazenby is a great at the action scenes. Possibly the best in the series, or at least top two with Craig.

 

[spidey-dude]

Quantum of Solace is a great Bond film. It just isn't as good as Casino Royale or Skyfall.

yep I love it, and you know what it is perfect when you just want a fun film running in the background while you surf the net

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I personally like it more then most. It is definitely better the majority of Bond films and suffers from classic overreaction by many who latch on to the general, misguided position. I love when I see people try to rank it below such classics as "A View to a Kill", "Diamonds Are Forever", and "Tomorrow Never Dies" to name but a few. When I hear it is the worst, well I do wonder how many of these people have sat through "Moonraker" or "Die Another Day".

I've seen them all many times. Tomorrow Never Dies is definitely better than Quantum of Solace, as well as those other films that you mentioned.

The others are the bottom of the barrel as far as Bond films go, but Quantum of Solace isn't that much better. At least we can see what is going on in those, even if what we are seeing isn't any good. Quantum of Solace is just a garbled mess with the worst action sequences of the entire series. It has other problems like a lame villain and Bond girl, and being rather redundant (it covers much of the same ground in Bond's development as Casino Royale just did), but the big issue is that it is just uncomfortable to watch. Guy Hamilton (DAF, TMWTGG), Lewis Gilbert (MR), and John Glen (AVTAK) at least bring something to the franchise and indeed have directed some of the best films of the franchise. Hamilton did the very best Bond film. Forster was just awful. He took what could have been a good Bond film on paper and made it a disaster. He should never be allowed anywhere near this franchise again. Easily the worst directing job of any Bond film, even if the film itself was better (barely) than the absolute worst.

I find it hard to compare DAD and QoS. The first 40-45 minutes of DAD blows anything from QoS out of the water, but everything after that is a joke. DAF is my vote for the worst. It just seems so half-assed, from the performances, to the writing (Tiffany Case changes from cagey master thief to bumbling bimbo and back within single scenes), to the special effects (the laser satellite attacks are the worst effects in the entire series). They didn't even bother making Blofeld bald. It is just so boring and uninspired whereas at least there was an effort in every other film, even if it didn't work.

 

[Team Andino]

I really wish Quantum hadn't suffered from the writers strike, would of loved to of seen a strong follow up to Casino Royale. I though the visual of the girl covered in oil was a great visual and nice homage to Goldfinger, but it was almost a throw away scene and forgotten as quickly as it arrived. Too bad that couldn't of been saved for something to have a little more impact in a better structured movie.

 

[DarkKnight88]

What are you talking about? His emotions at the end when Tracy dies is what most people give him praise for other than his action scenes, in fact, it's widely regarded as one of the best scenes in the entire series.

By who? The scene itself is well done. His performance is not. Look at the way Daniel Craig plays the death of Vesper at the end of Casino Royale and then look at how much better this could have been. There's a reason he only played Bond once and it's not because he decided to leave. He was fired.

 

[Team Andino]

By who? The scene itself is well done. His performance is not. Look at the way Daniel Craig plays the death of Vesper at the end of Casino Royale and then look at how much better this could have been. There's a reason he only played Bond once and it's not because he decided to leave. He was fired.

It's not fair to compare them really, each Bond brought something different to the character. Also Lazenby wasn't fired, they might not of liked him but he quit before they got the chance to give him the boot. He had already let it been known he wasn't coming back for another before OHMSS even came out.

 

[DarkKnight88]

I think that was PR at the time. In the new documentary Everything or Nothing he admits they fired him.

 

[Team Andino]

I think that was PR at the time. In the new documentary Everything or Nothing he admits they fired him.

Ah ok, haven't seen that yet. Just from watching the interviews and extras on all the movies they said how he quit. Must of been old stuff recycled because I know the EON documentary is most recent stuff.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I personally like it more then most. It is definitely better the majority of Bond films and suffers from classic overreaction by many who latch on to the general, misguided position. I love when I see people try to rank it below such classics as "A View to a Kill", "Diamonds Are Forever", and "Tomorrow Never Dies" to name but a few. When I hear it is the worst, well I do wonder how many of these people have sat through "Moonraker" or "Die Another Day".

I only put Tomorrow Never Does above it of those movies. It's still a mediocre Bond movie at best.

And Lazenby may not have been an actor, but nailed that final scene.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I've seen them all many times. Tomorrow Never Dies is definitely better than Quantum of Solace, as well as those other films that you mentioned.

The others are the bottom of the barrel as far as Bond films go, but Quantum of Solace isn't that much better. At least we can see what is going on in those, even if what we are seeing isn't any good. Quantum of Solace is just a garbled mess with the worst action sequences of the entire series. It has other problems like a lame villain and Bond girl, and being rather redundant (it covers much of the same ground in Bond's development as Casino Royale just did), but the big issue is that it is just uncomfortable to watch. Guy Hamilton (DAF, TMWTGG), Lewis Gilbert (MR), and John Glen (AVTAK) at least bring something to the franchise and indeed have directed some of the best films of the franchise. Hamilton did the very best Bond film. Forster was just awful. He took what could have been a good Bond film on paper and made it a disaster. He should never be allowed anywhere near this franchise again. Easily the worst directing job of any Bond film, even if the film itself was better (barely) than the absolute worst.

I find it hard to compare DAD and QoS. The first 40-45 minutes of DAD blows anything from QoS out of the water, but everything after that is a joke. DAF is my vote for the worst. It just seems so half-assed, from the performances, to the writing (Tiffany Case changes from cagey master thief to bumbling bimbo and back within single scenes), to the special effects (the laser satellite attacks are the worst effects in the entire series). They didn't even bother making Blofeld bald. It is just so boring and uninspired whereas at least there was an effort in every other film, even if it didn't work.

Fully agreed.

Man With the Golden Gun is the worst (with DAF as my second worst) to me. I've said why many times, so I'll leave it there for now and find a previous post.

 

[Octoberist]

You see..I think movies like 'Diamonds are Forever' and 'Moonraker' are bad, but at least they're charming. But yeah, 'Man with the Gopden Gun' was just dull and tedious to watch.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Found my old comment on it.

*rant coming* Man With the Golden Gun will always be the worst to me because it pulls off the worst crime of all the Bond movies; being boring. At least with every other Bond movie, I have to admit that I was at least entertained by all the other Bond movies. The action is boring, the acting is boring (everyone except for Christopher Lee looked like they didn't even want to do this movie), and Scaramanga's villain plot was boring and incredibly lame. Not to mention, I hate that f**king midget butler, and I hate JW Pepper even more. After watching Live and Let Die (which I actually do like), I was actually saying that The Man With The Golden Gun movie couldn't get any worse and at least it didn't have JW Pepper in it, then he comes on and I was ready to throw stop the dvd and throw it out a window.

The Man With The Golden Gun could have been an interesting return for Bond in the spy thriller genre, but it squabbles it's opportunities hugely by forcing in Bond formula with combined with a dull story, terrible comedy, a completely forgettable Bond girl, and one of the stupidest ideas for a henchmen.

 

[spidey-dude]

I have to say its very interesting how much QoS divides fans

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Yeah, it's bumped off You Only Live Twice and Live And Let Die for most divisive Bond movie.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

If QoS was starring Pierce Brosnan and came out in between TWINE and DAD, I'm convinced it would be pretty universally hated.

But because it stars the very popular Daniel Craig and it came out between two great Bond films also starring Craig and is a sequel to the best Bond film in 40 years, people overlook the many problems with it.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Exactly. Forster also would have been ripped apart even more for his directing too.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

I thought Marc's directing of the intimate moments were potent, such as Mathis' death, Bond drunkenly reminiscing about Vesper, and Bond shielding a Camille on the brink of a breakdown and saving her. It was his sense of action that was misguided. The boat chase being the hideously worst of it. Seriously, what happened in that scene?

 

[Hellion]

DAF is my vote for the worst. It just seems so half-assed, from the performances, to the writing (Tiffany Case changes from cagey master thief to bumbling bimbo and back within single scenes), to the special effects (the laser satellite attacks are the worst effects in the entire series). They didn't even bother making Blofeld bald. It is just so boring and uninspired whereas at least there was an effort in every other film, even if it didn't work.

I personally like DAF (and every Bond film for the most part) but agree with everything in your post. Especially the laser...the look was especially cringeworthy. I partially agree about Blofeld, but am more bothered the actor previously played a Bond Ally in You Only Live Twice.

 

[The Joker]

I have to say its very interesting how much QoS divides fans

I like it. I really do. I know it's a big come down after the brilliant Casino Royale, but as a movie it's good, IMO. I could watch over the likes of Moonraker, A View to a Kill, The Man with the Golden Gun, DAF, and Diamonds are Forever any day.

 

[Team Andino]

I personally like DAF (and every Bond film for the most part) but agree with everything in your post. Especially the laser...the look was especially cringeworthy. I partially agree about Blofeld, but am more bothered the actor previously played a Bond Ally in You Only Live Twice.

I found it odd that they had the woman who was Scaramenga's mistress come back as Octopussy. As well as having the main villain from The Living Daylights come back as a U.S. ally in Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies. Just odd to have people come back despite previous roles.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Quantum of Solace is a great Bond film. It just isn't as good as Casino Royale or Skyfall.

That's pretty much how I feel. It actually makes my top ten.

 

[Hamill-Joker]

I would have liked to have seen Telly Savalas comeback as Blofeld in Diamonds Are Forever. I really liked him in OHMSS.

 

[DJ Kornphlake]

It wasn't until I recently watched OHMSS again that I realized what it was that irked me about the movie (besides it not being Connery ), and that's that the story doesn't work in the movie series, because Blofeld and Bond have already met face to face in the YOLT. It would make no sense to send Bond in undercover to Blofeld's place.