James Bond In Skyfall - - - Part 12

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  1. Thread Manager Moderator

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    This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]398903[/split]
     
  2. Hunter Rider Ronin

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    I think Goldeneye is a top 3 Bond film, it's legacy was simply enhanced by the game as it's rare to get a great vodeogame tie-in for any movie let alone a great movie.
     
  3. TheWiseGuy487 Feelin’ blue, feelin’ good

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    Well, I will say this. He did make me laugh. :hehe:
     
  4. THUNDERSTRIKE NOTORIOUS, INGLORIOUS, VICTORIOUS

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    James Bond Bieber Fever... :whatever:

    what a nonsensical thing to come onto here...

    a guy goes away for a few hours and THIS is what he finds waiting here when he gets back...

    Bieber fever... jesus... :doh:
     
  5. Visceral A Shadow

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    This is why I ****ing stay away from facebook. :woot:

    back to the topic at hand. james bond
     
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    I just came back from seeing the film and I thought it was a good movie but I think it isn't as great as casino royale but it is definitely one of the better bond films. I loved the action and the acting all around was just great. And there were some shots in the film that really took my breath away. I however didn't feel like this movie felt like a bond film the espionage feel for me just wasnt there. toward the third act I thought the film started to drag but the ending was great I do like the way that this series is headed and do look forward to seeing more films I give it a 8.5/10
     
  7. Doctor Jones shocked and baffled

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    Three things that irked me on two viewings:

    Two chatty older women next to me commenting on every single thing. Whenever Daniel Craig had his shirt off or did something remotely charming they just swooned. Then their was a period of time when he didn't have his shirt off then when he did again, one of them went, "Thank you."

    And then in the finale when Silva sees Kinkaid and M in the distance with the flashlight people kept muttering, "Stupid." Um... you do realize that it's night and they're old right? How else are they going to get to the damn chapel?

    Also when Skyfall was revealed. Everyone whispered, "Skyfall!" or "Hey, it's Skyfall!" Just wanted to make sure you knew that, it's Skyfall.
     
  8. terry78 My name is Stefan, sweet thang

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    This one was more of a reboot than Casino Royale in a sense. It felt like someone basically restarting the franchise since they go into the whole origin thing and the villain with a vendetta against the heroes.
     
  9. A Necessary Evil One. Bad. Day.

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    LOL. Poor doctor jones, musta been with the stupid audience. I know the feel, bro. Happened during X3 (though it didn't help since the movie sucked :funny :, sherlock holmes, and spider-man. (AWWWWWHHH HES SO CUTE...daayyum parker got ripped!!!") :whatever:
     
  10. Gold Samurai Registered

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    #1 at the boxoffice

    http://www.startribune.com/178694861.html


    I wish Bond was a popular as Batman so we could get hype members posting box office numbers every few days/hours ;)
     
  11. Liam_H Registered

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    Just go to BoxOffice.com you'll get all you want.
     
  12. THUNDERSTRIKE NOTORIOUS, INGLORIOUS, VICTORIOUS

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    and that's just US figures...

    combine US and international figures and it's something like 500 mill, isn't it?... or have I got that wrong?

    my bad, looks like 300 mill...

    edit again... looks my first figure was correct...

    DAMN...
     
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  13. Dark Raven It's not about what you deserve...

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    In the UK it's overtaken Harry Potter as the fastest grossing film in 7 days. Well, that was 7 days after it opened in the UK.
     
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    "Best Bond movie ever!" Its such a cliche thing to say, but for Daniel Craig IMO its true. Never thought they would be able to surpass Casino Royale. loved, Loved, LOVED the movie! My only gripes were:

    - I agree the gunbarrel should've been at the beginning.

    - Loved the theme song, but it would've more fitting to use for Craig's last Bond movie.

    - I know there's the traditional sacrificial lamb for a Bond movie, but it broke my heart that Sévérine was killed off since there was no other "Bond" girl" in the movie due to the twist at the end.

    - Silva was such an interesting character. I wish he had more screentime.

    - I don't have a problem with gay people, but seeing Bond get fondled against his will was uncomfortable to watch and actually made me cringe in my seat. Before I get called out for this, I'm not one of those conservative fanatics or a hater if you will. I'm totally support gay marriage. They can do whatever they want, but myself being a heterosexual male, I was imagining myself in Bond's position

    - The "villain gets intentionally captured only to escape" cliche is really tiresome.

    - I wish they had cut the scene with Mallory visiting Q to help him. It ruined the surprise that he was going to be his new boss IMO.

    - Quantum should've been in this. It would've been only logical Silva had ties to them.

    - Felix Leiter also should've been in this. At least a cameo appearance. It was odd to watch without him there.

    - He wouldn't have done it, but how cool would it have been for Sean Connery to play Kincaid?!!

    - Hated to see M die. It was understandable, I would've preferred that she stepped down like Q did back in 1999.

    Did anybody catch other 007 nods? My own observation:

    Dr. No - The main villain has a island hideout.

    From Russia With Love - Bond trying to obtain a device of importance in Turkey.

    Goldfinger - The classic Ashton Martin with gadgets, the overlook from the hill, the main villain being bigger than the evil organization.

    Thunderball - Bond being retrieved by MI6 and the main villain being stabbed from behind.

    You Only Live Twice - Bond thought to be dead and later in the film, being in disguise with a hat to match.

    On Her Majesty's Secret Service - Losing a loved one at the end.

    Diamonds Are Forever - The scorpion.

    Live And Let Die - Bond stepping on reptiles to escape.

    The Man With The Golden Gun - The use of mirrors.

    The Spy Who Loved Me - The "Bond girl" being Bond's equal, a villain with fu**ed up teeth.

    For Your Eyes Only - Bond's line of "For her eyes only."

    Octopussy - The chase and fight on the train.

    A View To A Kill - The main villain being psychotic and having a distinct look because of his blonde hair as well as an obsession with computers.

    Goldeneye - The main villain being Bond's equal.

    The World Is Not Enough - The girl Bond was after being afraid of the main villain, leaving an ominous presence. MI6 HQ being attacked and M being the focus of the film.

    Die Another Day - Bond coming across dead agents. An MI6 agent was captured and tortured for political purposes. Bond swimming in icy water.

    Casino Royale -"Dont touch your ear.", The Ashton Martin he won in the poker game.

    Quantum Of Solace - Bond doesn't hook up with the Bond girl at the end.
     
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  15. DyeLorean will return

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    Wow, did you realize all that by yourself?
    Some of those are pretty interesting.
     
  16. The Englishman Marching On Together

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    Why should Felix Leiter have been in the film, there was no place for him being in the story...
     
  17. Dark Raven It's not about what you deserve...

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    Didn't pay as much attention to them as in DAD where they made it extremely obvious. However, you missed out TND.
     
  18. The Englishman Marching On Together

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    Riding a motorbike, South China Sea??? There's an helicopter in it....
     
  19. TheWiseGuy487 Feelin’ blue, feelin’ good

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    I read a quote from Sam Mendes who said that they tried every which way to incorporate the gunbarrel into the intro, but it just didn't fit.

    I'm sure they'll return to putting the gunbarrel at beginning with the next film, since this marks a return to form.

    Don't forget the year on the bottle that Silva uses to pour Bond a glass: 1962, the year Dr. No was released, which was fifty years ago. Hence, the anniversary this year.

    What better way to salute this franchise's longevity than with a drink from a 1962 wine bottle?
     
  20. Upset Spideyfan Look on the bright side

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    Had a lot of fun with this movie, a big step back up from Quantum of Solace.

    Its probably my 3rd favorite Bond movie after Casino Royale and Goldfinger.
     
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    I'll need to see this again, but Sam Mendes directed the heck out of this film. He absolutely elevated this movie, which appears to be an attempt to go a bit "safe" after QUANTUM OF SOLACE wasn't received as well. Despite that, this is definitely one of the best Bond films ever made, simply on the strength of the filmmaking behind it. This may become my favorite of the Bond films.

    Daniel Craig is as good as he's been in this franchise, and maybe anywhere, showing a side of James Bond we've not gotten to see anything but glimpses of over the years, where he's vulnerable and damaged and missing a step. I like that Bond's feelings about the call M did had more to do with his own competence than her making the right call, and that much of the film is about him proving something to himself.

    Judi Dench is steady as M, gives a performance as good as she's given as M, and her character's attempts to give Bond a chance to prove himself is nice to see, as are the quiet moments of self-doubt and struggle.

    Silva makes a fantastic villain, and Javier Bardem is amazing in the role. He really walks a tightrope with this performance, and does it brilliantly. I like that he sees violence and the trappings of espionage as a bit old fashioned, and saw Bond as something of a dinosaur, a relic of the old ways. He seemed almost bored and nonchalant about bombs, grenades, and guns, until he was about to get his revenge, when he became more excited.

    I was a little underwhelmed with Ben Whitsaw as Q at first, but he grew on me. Felt a bit derivative of the "hacker" we've seen on TV a million times, but it also makes sense in terms of a more modern Q. I would have liked a bit more insight into his character, and a few more gadgets, but he was a good addition to the franchise nonetheless. I really enjoyed the way he and Bond bantered back and forth while Bond was in the field.

    I was particularly glad to see Bill Tanner getting much more time to shine, though I did miss Felix Leiter a bit.

    Ralph Fiennes as Mallory was understated, well set up as a bit of a stuffed shirt without experience, and really came on strong with some nice reveals and action later in the film. Can't wait to see his interactions with Craig in sequels.

    Harris is fantastic as Eve, and I wanted to see more of her, though I'm sure we will.
    I suspected the character was Moneypenny when Bond said that field work isn't for anyone, but it was still a nice reveal, and the "close shave" line was great, and a nice metaphor for their history. Seems like we'll be getting the "almost consummating" bit between them for some time.

    Albert Finney did a nice job as Kincaid, but I felt the character himself was extraneous, a bit shoehorned in, and a lot cliche. I did love "Welcome to Scotland".

    The action is terrific, fairly realistic, and intense and explosive for the most part. There are a decent number of surprises in the action, and the obligatory giant lizard attack. The motorcycle chase at the beginning is tense, fast-paced, and a great way to get into the film and nod at the new tradition of a big, over the top action sequence to start the film, but has a nice emotional payoff for all involved. Solid action all around, and very visceral.

    The script is smart and solid, but overall it's not anything special. There are a lot of very, very nice moments in this, but the whole thing feels a bit piecemeal, and its a miracle that it manages to be well-paced despite that. There's really not much going on in the way of story. Its certainly not as complex a story as CASINO ROYALE. A small, personal story here becomes a fairly simple one. Seeing M dragged through the mud a bit and refusing to accept that she may have erred, and accepting the mistakes she's made in the past and trying to reconcile her decisions is all a bit heartbreaking. I think we got just enough of a glimpse into Bond's past that mostly serves to flesh out his relationship with M wonderfully. I loved the inference that M is a surrogate mother to Bond. The last act felt a bit JAMES BOND: PRINCE OF SPIES in places, but it worked. I like the parallells and comparisons between Bond and Silva. I was also glad to see an overall subtle approach taken to the material and concepts in the film, and not a film heavy on exposition. I'm not sure how I feel about
    the execution of M's death. I love her last line, as it gives her a very bittersweet resolution, but I felt like the circumstances of her death were a bit forced and obvious, and I'm not sure Bond made the right call in deciding to abscond with her in the first place, but that's never explored...his ultimate failure to protect her.
    The script walks the line between serious and a bit of camp quite well and excels in the lighter moments, as SKYFALL contained some of the best humor I've seen in a Bond film, especially M's "go ahead and eject me" line. The "radio" gag was pretty good, too. And one of the best moments in the film was when Bond sees the Aston Martin blown up and his reaction to it. I don't really get the complaints about the gunbarrel. At all.

    With regard to the similarities to some of the story points of THE DARK KNIGHT...yes, they are there, but ultimately, and I say this as a big fan of THE DARK KNIGHT, Sam Mendes and his writers have a defter touch, and handled almost every one of them better in SKYFALL.
    Silva using the cop uniform and the ensuing chaos? Far more intense, suspenseful and effective than the relevant scenes with The Joker in THE DARK KNIGHT. Silva's interrogation/escape
    is a lot more grounded, subtle, complex, and arguably more effective than The Joker's interrogation scene in THE DARK KNIGHT, which has a few really fantastic moments, but tends to ramble and trend toward melodrama. And people have talked about Thomas Newman's score being inspired by Zimmer. If that is indeed the case, then Newman does Zimmer a lot better than Zimmer. What a score. There are some brilliant moments, particularly when Bond arrives at the casino.

    The cinematography by Roger Deakins, from the first shots of the film, just pull you in, and was just incredible throughout, with the possible exception of the sequences where M is driving and being driven around. Not sure what's up with that. Regardless, he and Mendes worked very well together.

    I'm guessing this will grow on me as I see it more and more. It really was a great film experience, and a very good movie, and a worthy film to honor Bond and his history.
     
  22. Dark Raven It's not about what you deserve...

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    There were other nods too. I only remember a few:

    GF: Bond saying "you must be joking" to Q.

    GE: Q mentioning the exploding pen.

    DAD: Bond with a beard. Being considered not fit for duty. Confrontation on an ice lake at the end.
     
  23. DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You (P) (he/him/his)

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    The movie is making bank. $500 million already. Good to see and I'll finally be able to see it tomorrow. Very excited.

    It might not make Connery's top 4.
     
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  24. DyeLorean will return

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    By next week it will surpass the totals of both Quantum and Casino. That's very impressive.
     
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    Even more so that international numbers alone will be greater than the WW total of CR and QoS.
     
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