James Bond In Skyfall - Part 6

[Webhead2006]

And again like said above xmen was a different case it was a prequel and origin peice for certain characters who where yet to be born yet/why the older characters ended up as they did.

Bond is totally different and best suited to stay modern(of the time period its in). Then trying to do period peices. That is better felt to period peice war/historical films.

 

[Sebastos]

Nice pics from the Turkey shoot.

 

[Daniel Thompson]

And again like said above xmen was a different case it was a prequel and origin peice for certain characters who where yet to be born yet/why the older characters ended up as they did.

Bond is totally different and best suited to stay modern(of the time period its in). Then trying to do period peices. That is better felt to period peice war/historical films.

Like someone said before they could go the period piece route for a few films and go back to the modern route afterwards if they decide to go back to the 60s.

 

[ChickenScratch]

I share Ian's belief that Bond should always be a contemporary character.

There's a story about theft some piece of art from a museum in Paris and Ian added the "theft" to a then completed Dr No. Thhis was then added to the movie when Bond is checking out the paintings in Dr No's dineing room. Why did he do that? Same reason he put references to how much James hates the Beatles or prevailing fashions of the time. He firmly believed that Bond was a contemporary character and the novels were usually set in the year or the year prior to their release. With the Exception of Faulks DMC which is set in the 70's (77 actually, there's a mention then newspaper article on M's desk of a West Indies Vs England Cricket match and the resultant score that squarely puts that specific game in the summer of that year). Outside of that every single book has been contemporary, even last year's CB was set in '12.

 

[Metallo]

And again like said above xmen was a different case it was a prequel and origin peice for certain characters who where yet to be born yet/why the older characters ended up as they did.

Bond is totally different and best suited to stay modern(of the time period its in). Then trying to do period peices. That is better felt to period peice war/historical films.

Pretty ridiculous how some people are SO sure it wouldn't work. Nobody here can predict the future last time I checked.

People have said before what would and wouldn't work for Bond and been wrong. Theres a difference between people stating their tastes for what they want and saying they KNOW what the entire movie going public will and will not accept.

The X-men comparison still applies because while the movie is a prequel people are also used to comic book characters moving on a sliding timescale and staying modern. Most people know of the X-men form the time THEY started reading/watching. If the film is good people have shown they can accept something.

The same way they accepted the changes in Bond adventures over the years. Some of them pretty radical.

 

[BritishChap007]

Pretty ridiculous how some people are SO sure it wouldn't work. Nobody here can predict the future last time I checked.

People have said before what would and wouldn't work for Bond and been wrong. Theres a difference between people stating their tastes for what they want and saying they KNOW what the entire movie going public will and will not accept.

The X-men comparison still applies because while the movie is a prequel people are also used to comic book characters moving on a sliding timescale and staying modern. Most people know of the X-men form the time THEY started reading/watching. If the film is good people have shown they can accept something.

The same way they accepted the changes in Bond adventures over the years. Some of them pretty radical.

We already had Bond films in the 60s!!!!!! The real 60s.....

What woukd be the point? Not to mention most of Fleming's Bind movies took place in the 50s. So if you're going to go back, might as well do it in a time period not covered. Yeesh.

 

[The Englishman]

People keep saying that If Tarentino made a Bond film he would set it in the 50's/60's or he would do this or do that and for those reasons that is why he will never do a Bond film, he would want all creative control, writing his own script. If people think Eon would allow that then they are living in a dreamland....

 

[Ajendo]

Whats wrong with making a period piece Bond film set in the 60s? Since Tarantino loves blaxploitation films he would proably set it in the 70s and do a remake of Live and Let Die.

Because Bond isn't a period piece character! He's a man of the times. He's a contemporary character. Do we want batman movies or spider-man movies set in the 30s or 60s respectively? No.

 

[Ajendo]

http://video.uk.msn.com/watch/video/james-bond-skyfall-movie-gets-bazaar/738eso59?from=

 

[The Guard]

A period Bond film could work. Anything could work. But Bond has always been a reflection of the current espionage period...and should continue to be.

 

[Ajendo]

http://www.beyazgazete.com/video/anahaber/kanal-d-31/2012/5/1/bond-guncesi-273794.html

 

[Webhead2006]

Sure we can't predict how things could be. But I think personally it would be against eon/shareholders/etc... martketing stuff. To do period peices. Plus that makes it even more budget/effect that would be needed to mmake modern places look like its 30s/40s/50s/60s/etc.. I rather bond just stay contempartory.

 

[DACrowe]

I think Bond is a product of the 1960s, so seeing the character in a film set there would obviously be fun and cool. However, EON is wise to never actually make that movie. While the character is very much rooted in a certain type of male persona and worldview, the way they have been able to keep making Bond movies for 50 years is by making him seem relevant to every decade that passes. If you set him back in the 1960s, it might work really well but then EON runs the risk of audiences viewing him as a period character and part of a bygone era. That would make potentially seeing a new Bond movie set in the 2010s or 2020s difficult if audiences have grown to perceive him as a 1960s product.

That is why EON will never do this.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Exactly. And they never should.

 

[ChickenScratch]

I think Bond is a product of the 1960s, so seeing the character in a film set there would obviously be fun and cool. However, EON is wise to never actually make that movie. While the character is very much rooted in a certain type of male persona and worldview, the way they have been able to keep making Bond movies for 50 years is by making him seem relevant to every decade that passes. If you set him back in the 1960s, it might work really well but then EON runs the risk of audiences viewing him as a period character and part of a bygone era. That would make potentially seeing a new Bond movie set in the 2010s or 2020s difficult if audiences have grown to perceive him as a 1960s product.

That is why EON will never do this.

How is he a product of the 60's when CR was published in '53. It was 7 novels and a book of short stories before it even turned '60. Or are you talking about the movies exclusivly when you say "Bond is a product of the 60.s"

 

[Daniel Thompson]

People keep saying that If Tarentino made a Bond film he would set it in the 50's/60's or he would do this or do that and for those reasons that is why he will never do a Bond film, he would want all creative control, writing his own script. If people think Eon would allow that then they are living in a dreamland....

I know Tarantino would never do a Bond film, but if given creative control he proably make a damn good Bond flick.

 

[DACrowe]

How is he a product of the 60's when CR was published in '53. It was 7 novels and a book of short stories before it even turned '60. Or are you talking about the movies exclusivly when you say "Bond is a product of the 60.s"

I think Fleming's Bond is really hard to separate from the 1950s and the Cold War era that sprung almost immediately out of WWII. But EON's Bond? It's been it's own thing since Goldfinger to me and the whole way he treats women, the way he dresses, drinks, views the world, etc. in movies all feels like a product of the '60s to me. At least on screen.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I think Bond is a product of the 1960s, so seeing the character in a film set there would obviously be fun and cool. However, EON is wise to never actually make that movie. While the character is very much rooted in a certain type of male persona and worldview, the way they have been able to keep making Bond movies for 50 years is by making him seem relevant to every decade that passes. If you set him back in the 1960s, it might work really well but then EON runs the risk of audiences viewing him as a period character and part of a bygone era. That would make potentially seeing a new Bond movie set in the 2010s or 2020s difficult if audiences have grown to perceive him as a 1960s product.

That is why EON will never do this.

I completely agree. If you go with a big screen period movie you run the risk of admitting (or appearing to admit) that they could not make a good modern story so they're going into the past.

I like the idea of the BBC doing Bond miniseries that are closer to the novels, like what they do with Sherlock.

 

[rashad]

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[JAK®]

The thing that I hate about newer Bond (post 1987) is that they keep trying to make it personal. What I like about Bond is that it is his job. This is why From Russia With Love is my favourite, because it is absolutely all a mission with some great spy antics. Red Grant isn't a villain that has a personal vendetta against Bond. He is an assassin.

This is why Casino Royale was good. Because it was based on a Fleming novel and all the spy stuff was kept in. Yeah they had the relationship with Vesper but it didn't suffocate the rest like what happened in Quantum Of Solace.

 

[The Englishman]

I know Tarantino would never do a Bond film, but if given creative control he proably make a damn good Bond flick.

I think you missed my point, Tarantino would never do a Bond film because he would want full creative control and Eon would not give him it.....

 

[The Englishman]

The thing that I hate about newer Bond (post 1987) is that they keep trying to make it personal. What I like about Bond is that it is his job. This is why From Russia With Love is my favourite, because it is absolutely all a mission with some great spy antics. Red Grant isn't a villain that has a personal vendetta against Bond. He is an assassin.

This is why Casino Royale was good. Because it was based on a Fleming novel and all the spy stuff was kept in. Yeah they had the relationship with Vesper but it didn't suffocate the rest like what happened in Quantum Of Solace.

I can only think of 3 movies where it's personal to Bond, Licence to Kill, GoldenEye and Quantum of Solace. GoldenEye only kind of turns personal halfway through the movie and it's still apart of his mission anyway. Your making it sound that every Bond film after 1987 makes the missions personal for Bond.

 

[chamber-music]

The World Is Not Enough is somewhat personal as well. I don't think the way Bond dresses is very 60s. He dresses pretty normal for a man his age and background. Some guys are not jeans and t-shirt types.

I don't think Craig's Bond is anywhere near as boderline sexist by todays standards as some of the prevous Bonds where either.

 

[Brian Braddock]

No one can go wrong with a Sunspel polo shirt.

 

[chamber-music]

I'm surprised Bond is even shocked when he finds one of his ex-lovers dead the amount of times it happens to him.

Bond finds more dead women in hotel rooms than the CSI.