Rogue One James Earl Jones is Darth Vader in Rogue One

Well as I said in the "Moff" thread, I feel like Disney may move towards some digital characters in the future if they want to put movies in gaps left by the different trilogies. With vocoloid and other technologies out there, I imagine they'll eventually go looking for a sound-alike or synthesize a voice for future projects. I'm sure they'll keep JEJ around until then, out of respect, but I figure it's coming someday.

The best thing they could do is bring in JEJ for a week or two and have him record a bunch of words, sentences, phrases, statements, questions, exclamations, dead pan, cold statements, enraged statements etc. Build an entire library of vader vocals that can be used and manipulated and mixed and edited etc for future possoble projects so when JEJ inevitably passes on they have a library to work with.

I understand its probably hard for Kathy and Disney and LFL to bring up this topic with JEJ, but surely all of them including JEJ understand why its prudent to have him record as much as possible sooner rather than later. We all die at some point. Being prepared doesnt hurt.
 
That corridor scene was amazing. Great brief buildup of anticipation/tension before the saber is ignited. It's the most powerful that Vader has ever struck me.

Impressive. Most impressive.

It got me giddy. Whole theater! Sounded like an Amusement Park reaction.
 
Seeing Vader do it just makes Kylo come off even more as nerdy wannabe.

Kylo/ Ben is Vaders Grandchild, why is he a "nerdy wanna-be" when it's his freaking Birthright to be a Dark Lord? He has his power levels because of his bloodline. Kylo is just haphazardly trained.
 
Kylo/ Ben is Vaders Grandchild, why is he a "nerdy wanna-be" when it's his freaking Birthright to be a Dark Lord? He has his power levels because of his bloodline. Kylo is just haphazardly trained.

Because Kylo to me is clearly that good kid that wants to be bad, and tried to do anything to be edgy and dark. Like them or not the prequels, established Anakin wanted certain things, and had a vision for the galaxy, and once he gave in to the dark side, he was willing to do anything to complete his goals. Sadly he ended up as the Emperor's servant, and could only do so much. Vader's only redemption comes from his son, the family he was lied to about having. Kylo may have denied his chance at redemption, but he's still all about trying to be Darth Vader, when Vader wasn't about trying to be anything, he was about accomplishing his goals. Kylo at best is brainwashed, Vader made his turn on his own with the thought of doing more for the himself and for the galaxy then the Jedi would allow.
 
By skewering his Dad? :whatever:

Im not going to turn this into a Kylo/Force Awakens discussion but I'll just say this:

It's not like Kylo killed Han with a smile on his face. He was clearly conflicted and felt that killing his father would "complete" his turn to the dark side. JJ Abrams even said in the commentary that when Kylo was telling Han all those things prior to impaling him that it wasn't an act. Kylo was legitimately struggling with his decision to kill his father and fully embrace the dark side. It's like the original poster said, Kylo was a good kid that is still trying desperately to be bad.

/end rant
 
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The best thing they could do is bring in JEJ for a week or two and have him record a bunch of words, sentences, phrases, statements, questions, exclamations, dead pan, cold statements, enraged statements etc. Build an entire library of vader vocals that can be used and manipulated and mixed and edited etc for future possoble projects so when JEJ inevitably passes on they have a library to work with.

I understand its probably hard for Kathy and Disney and LFL to bring up this topic with JEJ, but surely all of them including JEJ understand why its prudent to have him record as much as possible sooner rather than later. We all die at some point. Being prepared doesnt hurt.

Vader would sound too robotic
 
Im not going to turn this into a Kylo/Force Awakens discussion but I'll just say this:

It's not like Kylo killed Han with a smile on his face. He was clearly conflicted and felt that killing his father would "complete" his turn to the dark side. JJ Abrams even said in the commentary that when Kylo was telling Han all those things prior to impaling him that it wasn't an act. Kylo was legitimately struggling with his decision to kill his father and fully embrace the dark side. It's like the original poster said, Kylo was a good kid that is still trying desperately to be bad.

/end rant

Thank you. You put it much better than I did.

Back to Vader being awesome in Rogue One.
 
If he had managed to decide not to kill his dad it would have been fine lol. Most good kids go through a phase of wanting to kill daddy, if you can overcome that you are as good as any other good kid.
 
The best thing they could do is bring in JEJ for a week or two and have him record a bunch of words, sentences, phrases, statements, questions, exclamations, dead pan, cold statements, enraged statements etc. Build an entire library of vader vocals that can be used and manipulated and mixed and edited etc for future possoble projects so when JEJ inevitably passes on they have a library to work with.

I understand its probably hard for Kathy and Disney and LFL to bring up this topic with JEJ, but surely all of them including JEJ understand why its prudent to have him record as much as possible sooner rather than later. We all die at some point. Being prepared doesnt hurt.

James Earl Jones' wife passed away recently...I'm pretty sure no one at Disney is going to send out any kind of 'can you come in and record some stuff because you might be dead soon' invitation anytime soon.
 
Just a quick question:

Were Vader's scenes (and especially his last scene) part of the re-shoots and not initially in the film?

Also, there is no chance that his scenes get removed or altered on the Blu-Ray version or even an Extended Cut, right?

I just really want to re-watch his scenes over and over again once the movie hits Blu-Ray, that's why I am asking...
 
http://time.com/4603719/star-wars-darth-vader-rogue-one-scene/
Warning: This post contains spoilers for Rogue One.

As one of the most iconic villains of all time, Darth Vader has had his fair share of intimidating onscreen moments. From Force-choking the Empire’s commanding officers to cutting off his own son’s hand, the Dark Lord of the Sith has proven himself to be a ruthless and unforgiving leader throughout the Star Wars saga. But it’s not until Rogue One—the franchise’s first standalone film—that Vader finally gets the moment many fans have always wanted to witness.

We see a pre-suit Vader murder the Jedi left in the Temple—including the younglings—after Emperor Palpatine executes Order 66 in Revenge of the Sith, but most of the atrocities he commits to earn his reputation as the most feared man in the galaxy occur offscreen, during the 19-year interim between Revenge and A New Hope.

Rogue One—which is set just prior to the events of New Hope—ends how Episode IV begins, with Princess Leia in possession of the Death Star plans stolen by Jyn Erso and her Rebel crew. However, it’s during the sequence before this scene that Vader demonstrates the full extent of his abilities.

As a group of soldiers aboard a Rebel ship receive the chip containing Jyn’s crucial transmission, Vader’s heavy breathing is suddenly heard from a darkened corner of the room. What follows can most aptly be described as a slaughter, as the Sith Lord—using both the Force and his signature red lightsaber—mercilessly takes out everyone in his path.

The scene is the perfect transition into the original trilogy, demonstrating the extreme evil Vader is capable of prior to his introduction as Imperial head honcho in New Hope.

If you only knew the power of the Dark Side, indeed.
It's all still so vivid in my mind. :hmr:
 
Abit on Vaders Castle and setting from the visual dictionary (i think)

Vader's Lair
At this point in the general Star Wars timeline, Darth Vader reigns supreme as an avatar of evil—and the fact that the Dark Lord was still stalking around the galaxy provided not only the opportunity to make use of him in Rogue One's narrative, but also to explore previously unseen aspects of his character and his place in the Empire. When developing initial designs for The Empire Strikes Back, celebrated Star Wars artist Ralph McQuarrie had imagined a nightmare castle for Darth Vader—a domicile, asylum, and audience chamber to match the character's own visual menace. Though Empire's story development took a different turn and eventually moved away from depicting the Sith lord's lair, McQuarrie's vision of a lava hellscape would find its way on screen a quarter century later as Mustafar in Revenge of the Sith.

"The castle on Mustafar is this insanely uninviting place—a really evil place, deeply uncomfortable. But this is where Vader stays, because it's the only place he feels comfortable," said Christian Alzmann. "The idea is that he would have a mas-sive cylindrical machine in the center of his room—and in the center of that machine is a one-person bacta tank that looks out through a window onto the lava fields of Mustafar. It's both a meditation and a healing chamber." Serenity for one such as Vader, however, provided the art-ists opportunities for indulging their wildest fantasies of the macabre. Twisted and evil, the former Skywalker's notions of relaxation conjured images of horror for those tasked with imag-ining his dark haven.

"You realize that he's this crippled, broken, tragic figure—and that what he's looking at through his window is the location where his duel with Obi-Wan took place. The fact that he'd chosen to build his living mauso-leum here is a nod to the conflict in him—that he would go back to this place to reflect on what happened to the man he once was. At the same time, it's also terrifying, and when he emerges with all of his armor, he's Darth Vader."
 
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I liked the scene between Vader & Krenic a lot, but, I kinda thought Vader had too much dialogue...I prefer his get to the point of things with short, intense phrases like with most of the OT...
 
This might be a stupid question, but what exactly is Darth Vader's role in the Empire? He's not a politician (or maybe he is? Does he delve into politics and consult Palpatine?) I'm assuming he's high ranking in the military, but like, is he THE highest ranking military official??
 
Just a quick question:

Were Vader's scenes (and especially his last scene) part of the re-shoots and not initially in the film?

Also, there is no chance that his scenes get removed or altered on the Blu-Ray version or even an Extended Cut, right?

I just really want to re-watch his scenes over and over again once the movie hits Blu-Ray, that's why I am asking...

There were rumours and reports of Vader being in this way before anybreshoots. But that doesn't mean they didn't reshoot the scenes Vader was already in lol. As for your second question, I have no idea why they would ever do that for the home release so I wouldn't worry lol.
 
I liked that Vader had red eyes like in the original movie.
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James Earl Jones' wife passed away recently...I'm pretty sure no one at Disney is going to send out any kind of 'can you come in and record some stuff because you might be dead soon' invitation anytime soon.

Shame then. We all die. No harm in being prepared.It's foolish for all parties involved to act like the man is going to live forever. Even I have life insurance. I didn't get all offended when it was suggested I prepare for the inevitable. If I was famous for the voice of a famous character and the character might appear in films after my death I'd want to do my part and insure the studio had as much material to work with as possible. But I get how funny people are about this sort of thing so you're probably right that no one at Disney has the spine to ask JEJ to do it.

And they shouldn't do it because he might be dead soon nor should they say such a thing to him. They should do it because he will die one day like everyone does and being prepared for that inevitable thing whenever it does come is prudent and pragmatic.
 
James Earl Jones' voice was hit and miss. There were lines where it was perfect, and others where it sounded like an impersonator. I just chalk it up to his age.
 
James Earl Jones' voice was hit and miss. There were lines where it was perfect, and others where it sounded like an impersonator. I just chalk it up to his age.

I chalked that up to him having to actually say full run-on sentences and such...

In the OT, it was very straight to the point 'wording'. No hinderance on either but it just felt like he was talking to fast/gilmore style for the typical Vader-speak.

Who cares, we just got a scene of Vader slaying rebel scum.
 

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