The Amazing Spider-Man 2 Jamie Foxx IS Electro - Part 2

[Repulsor Blast]

it'd be a nice change of pace if he isn't an oscorp employee like connors was. if he is, then that means all 3 villains in the trilogy will be from oscorp...

 

[AF3619]

"For his whole life, no one is talking to him. People have stolen his ideas at the big company. At a certain point, Spider-Man bumps into him and says, ‘You’re my guy. You’re my ears and eyes on the street.’" Then of course, as you can guess, something goes horribly wrong, "and when it turns on, he lights up."

what if Electro does not work for Oscorp , Ultimate Electro was competing with Oscorp , maybe that´s why they meant Max creates a new clean and biological based electric source and Oscorp steals the idea from him and then when he is trying to get it back he turns into Electro somehow and now swears revenge against Osborn,idk

 

[Picard Sisko]

what if Electro does not work for Oscorp , Ultimate Electro was competing with Oscorp , maybe that´s why they meant Max creates a new clean and biological based electric source and Oscorp steals the idea from him and then when he is trying to get it back he turns into Electro somehow and now swears revenge against Osborn,idk

Interesting. Why would he work for a company that steals his ideas? If anything, he would be a FORMER employee at most.

 

[AF3619]

Interesting. Why would he work for a company that steals his ideas? If anything, he would be a FORMER employee at most.

maybe, but they did that with vulture, well we´ll see in a few days!

 

[Picard Sisko]

We'll see what in a few days??

 

[Kreative T]

I thought Electro in the comics was cool The spidey comic book covers of him when I was a kid were the best . I liked his costume and his color, back then it was about the colors and how flamboyant the suit was. It wasn't all about modernizing things or sophisticated fan boy mentalities back them either you liked costumed criminals or you didn't. One cover had Electro standing over spidey laughing and spidey is fried. And as a kid i was like how is he going to beat him. That was what made spidey villians awesome because he had all kinds, and that was the first time I saw spidey actually beat. and instant

ly that made Electro my favorite villian at the time. Electro was popular, don't get it twisted because that was James Cameron's favorite villian at the time and he wrote a spidey script of him being the main villian. One of the first spidey scripts! So take that Electro haters, Obviously they don't know there history. Electro rocked.

 

[Picard Sisko]

I read part of an early draft of the Spider-Man 1 script which stemmed off of the Cameron script... and it wasn't very good. It had Doc Ock, who even referred to himself as Spider-Man.

Liz Allen was the love interest, too.

Apparently, Cameron came up with the idea for organic web shooters. Not sure if that is 100% true.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Doc Ock as Spider-Man...what are the odds of that.

 

[TheForgotten]

So, can we blame Cameron for Ock-Spidey?

 

[Picard Sisko]

So, can we blame Cameron for Ock-Spidey?

Hmmmmmm.....

 

[RetrogradeOrbit]

IIRC, Cameron did come up with the idea of organic web shooters...

Sure I read a screenplay or something a few years ago that Cameron wrote for this very thing. Damned if I can remember where though.

It was quite a dark story too.

 

[Picard Sisko]

From wikipedia page "Spider-Man in film," Section: James Cameron Scriptment

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_in_film#James_Cameron_.22scriptment.22

Months later, James Cameron submitted an undated 47-page "scriptment" with an alternate story (the copyright registration was dated 1991), part screenplay, part narrative story outline.[6] The "scriptment" told the Spider-Man origin, but used variations on the comic book characters Electro and Sandman as villains. This "Electro" (named Carlton Strand, instead of Max Dillion) was a megalomaniacal parody of corrupt capitalists. Instead of Flint Marko's character, Cameron’s "Sandman" (simply named Boyd) is mutated by an accident involving Philadelphia Experiment-style bilocation and atom-mixing, in lieu of getting caught in a nuclear blast on a beach. The story climaxes with a battle atop the World Trade Center and had Peter Parker revealing his identity to Mary Jane Watson. In addition, the treatment was also heavy on profanity, and had Spider-Man and Mary Jane having sex.[20]
This treatment reflected elements in previous scripts: from the Stevens treatment, organic web-shooters, and a villain who tempts Spider-Man to join a coming "master race" of mutants; from the original screenplay and rewrite, weird electrical storms causing blackouts, freak magnetic events and bi-location; from the Ethan Wiley draft, a villain addicted to toxic super-powers and multiple experimental spiders, one of which escapes and bites Peter, causing an hallucinatory nightmare invoking Franz Kafka’s The Metamorphosis; from the Frank LaLoggia script, a blizzard of stolen cash fluttering down onto surprised New Yorkers; and from the Neil Ruttenberg screenplay, a criminal assault on the NYC Stock Exchange.[7] In 1991, Carolco Pictures extended Golan’s option agreement with Marvel through May 1996,[5] but in April 1992, Carolco ceased active production on Spider-Man due to continued financial and legal problems.[21]

Wow. Glad this never happened.

Didn't we see the blizzard of stolen cash in Spider-Man 3, right before the subway/sewer fight between Spider-Man and Sandman?

 

[Anno_Domini]

Wouldn't call it a blizzard of stolen cash....more like a small dust storm of stolen cash, lol.

And I'm really surprised we never saw a sex scene between Peter and MJ in Spider-Man 3 since they were an actual couple in that film.

 

[Kreative T]

I was just making a point that Electro was popular at the time. That James Camron put him in the movie. And Doc Ock was popular too. At the tine there was still liberties with comic book movies about not following the source material, and translating things to film. That was the 80's. James Camron had an excuse, it would had been the first Marvel Movie released Threatrically. Sam Raimi does not have an excuse. he does not have an excuse what he did to spiderman. He could have rejected the Camron script! Everybody did! But People damn near forgot abou that script. But he didn't so he will go down as bringing the organic webshooters to the spiderman film universe. He is the Culprit. amd always will be.

Doesn't matter how bad Camron script was.... he didn't make the movie. Sam made the movie haha!!!! That goes to show you never give a director majority of crestive control.

And I'll take a James Camron spiderman movie over Sam's any day!

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Wouldn't call it a blizzard of stolen cash....more like a small dust storm of stolen cash, lol.

And I'm really surprised we never saw a sex scene between Peter and MJ in Spider-Man 3 since they were an actual couple in that film.

Because they had to keep it PG-13?

 

[Anno_Domini]

Because they had to keep it PG-13?

I should've worded it out differently. I didn't think they would have an actual sex scene, but at least in bed together ala Bruce and Miranda/Talia in TDKR.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

There are a lot of things that SM3 should of had.

 

[Vid Electricz]

Anyone else curious about the aesthetics of a character like Electro? I'm baffled for one...Out of all of the rogues gallery with all these interesting abilities that are a visual goldmine, they choose a character that not only needs to be completely retooled (backstory, costume, etc...) but who has one of the most generic comic book "powers": shooting electricity/blast of energy...Just doesn't seem particularly interesting visually.

I've always liked the character when he showed up in the classic stories, but part of the appeal was the ridiculous costume (I don't suggest it's used for this movie though). The black rubber sounds like a cop-out. And visually, the battle scenes will involves lots of cgi electricity being thrown around. Doesn't get me too excited.

 

[Victarion]

That Kafka inspired nightmare sequence would be cool. Maybe Electro will have a sort of mechanical suit that lets him focus his electric powers.

 

[Vid Electricz]

It's like this- I have a fondness for the original character and I'd like to see that somewhat represented on screen. The only thing is that the original character doesn't provide much weight thematically. So they need to beef the character up. Give him a sob story background add things that were never in the comics. In other words, change the character completely, but keep the name.

But also- If they NEED to make all the changes I listed above, I'd like them to try to make the character as interesting as possible. Give him an interesting, imaginative costume and let him use his abilities in a unique visually arresting way. I'd love for it to happen, but I'm not getting my hopes up.

 

[GoldGoblin]

Is Paul Giamatti gonna have more screen time than Jamie Fox,because he is a bigger and better actor than him?

 

[Ultimatehero]

Foxx draws in more of a box office. And I'd say they're both good actors. Just Foxx is more mainstream, or at least for right now, whereas Giamati is more of a character-actor.

 

[Mr. Dent]

Is Paul Giamatti gonna have more screen time than Jamie Fox,because he is a bigger and better actor than him?

What? Jamie Foxx is way bigger than Paul Giamatti right now.

Anyone else curious about the aesthetics of a character like Electro? I'm baffled for one...Out of all of the rogues gallery with all these interesting abilities that are a visual goldmine, they choose a character that not only needs to be completely retooled (backstory, costume, etc...) but who has one of the most generic comic book "powers": shooting electricity/blast of energy...Just doesn't seem particularly interesting visually.

I've always liked the character when he showed up in the classic stories, but part of the appeal was the ridiculous costume (I don't suggest it's used for this movie though). The black rubber sounds like a cop-out. And visually, the battle scenes will involves lots of cgi electricity being thrown around. Doesn't get me too excited.

It's an advantage that he's basically a blank canvas in a way because they can essentially make him whatever type of tormented character they want...and his ability to control electricity would be great spectacle in a movie especially if Spidey fights him in Times Square. Also, I guarantee Ultimate Electro is the basis for this character not the 616 Electro. Jamie Foxx looks like a black Ultimate Electro and he's already said he will have a black costume.

 

[Keyser Soze]

Does anyone else think it's interesting that this film is going to have two villains who in the comics have classically been characterised as losers? I don't mean that in a bad way as in saying they're lame as characters, as they're two of my favourite villains. What I mean is these are characters whose best-known stories ("Light the Night", "Flowers For Rhino") revolve around really setting them up as "blue collar" villains, almost sympathetic underdog types who can't catch a break. I've always found the humanity in these types of characters appealing, but didn't know how they'd be able to carry a film. I'm interested to see how they're handled, but I'd like to see some of that "Everyman" quality carried over in the adaptation.

 

[Picard Sisko]

Anyone else curious about the aesthetics of a character like Electro? I'm baffled for one...Out of all of the rogues gallery with all these interesting abilities that are a visual goldmine, they choose a character that not only needs to be completely retooled (backstory, costume, etc...) but who has one of the most generic comic book "powers": shooting electricity/blast of energy...Just doesn't seem particularly interesting visually.

I've always liked the character when he showed up in the classic stories, but part of the appeal was the ridiculous costume (I don't suggest it's used for this movie though). The black rubber sounds like a cop-out. And visually, the battle scenes will involves lots of cgi electricity being thrown around. Doesn't get me too excited.

I think Electro is a really fun character to put on screen. Saying he just shoots electricity is simplifying what he can do. Keep in mind its a character that Spider-Man can't even touch. I'm picturing some crazy battle sequences in my mind right now (think of Times Square).