Jared Leto IS The Joker - - - - - - - - Part 17

[OutOfBoose]

I think grill was a nice "re-invention". But that's about it. Everything else is a miss.

 

[culver3vlr22]

I like that this joker changes suits so much. Maybe less gold chains, but I like the chains, the best outfit he wore in this film was the swat uniform that said joker on it that was pretty sweet looking.

I'm a huge Jared Leto fan so I just want them to figure this damn thing out.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

I love his clothing style and him having multiple looks throughout the movie.
Definitely want that to continue wherever we see him next.
I would like to see more purple in his wardrobe next time though.

 

[Wildcard]

That's really all that was missing...Ayer tried to compensate with the purple jacket & while it was cool, I still wanted to see this Joker sporting a fully purple suit. Had he worn one during the chase with Batman it'd have felt that much more like TAS than it already did (for me, anyway).

 

[Angel0fDeath]

It's a shame, really because they had it (the purple suit) in the concept art.

 

[Bruce Malone]

The grill is the least annoying part of his design. It still looks stupid but its not as bad as the tattoos, pimp suits, and bling bling jewelry.

I'm with you on the tats and the rest of his look but the Joker originally was essentially a flamboyant gangster from the on-set of his debut.

You could argue this is a modern take on that idea.
I'm pretty much just playing devil's advocate.

 

[The Joker]

I'm with you on the tats and the rest of his look but the Joker originally was essentially a flamboyant gangster from the on-set of his debut.

You could argue this is a modern take on that idea.
I'm pretty much just playing devil's advocate.

No need to play devil's advocate, you are dead right. That was their mentality behind it. They came out and said so. But their choice of modernizing style was awful.

If they want to do the gangster angle, then do it while keeping him still dressing like the Joker. Not every modern gangster dresses in pimp suits and jewellry so they are not bound to this ugly aesthetic for the 'modern' gangster angle. Even Azarello's modern Joker tale, which had a very gangster characterized Joker, didn't have him in ugly pimp suits and jewellry. I mean Joker's not the only Bat villain to be played with a big gangster element. The likes of Two Face and Penguin have, too. They don't need the kind of design Letoker had to be played up as gangster themed villains either.

Also when you hear the behind the scenes explanation for some of the things on Letoker's look like the damaged tattoo, it so stupid, and not even something people would get by just looking at it. We all assumed he was labelling himself as nuts.

 

[Wildcard]

I really don't see why it's that big of a deal. The Joker is a character who has had every kind of look there is. From the 1940's Italian aesthestic to dreadlocks and no shoes and so on.

While I'll still agree the "damaged" tattoo is quite silly, the others, by and large, very much make sense.

But, again, we all have our own views. I used to hate the idea of the Joker with tattoos and metal teeth too, but for this interpretation I actually think it 100% works. And imo, it'd be stupid to abandon it now.

 

[Luke234]

I loved the interpretation. I only want to see more. He pulled off scary and unpredictable .

 

[Doctor Octopus]

I actually don't really hate the grill. If I had my druthers the tattoos would be gone in the next movie, with the character returning to the classic purple suit. Given this, the grill would just look out of place.

But to answer your question, I wouldn't have a big problem if they did what you are suggesting, but I still don't like the shiny silver grill as a replacement for his teeth.

I just wish they had stuck with what the Joker has always looked like, as Leto has the gaunt cheekbones and thin face I've always pictured the character having. He could be the most comic accurate version of the character yet.

Agreed. Get rid of grill teeth, tattoos, and stupid gangster jewellery and clothes and them they get somewhere with design that looks Joker.

 

[Wildcard]

I loved the interpretation. I only want to see more. He pulled off scary and unpredictable .

The thing Leto has over Nicholson & even Ledger is the body language. All of his movements and mannerisms were perfectly Joker-ized. He was far more expressive with his body language than they were.

 

[Jekecy]

Don't agree. Body movements is one of the few consistent things all the live-action Jokers have brought to the table.

 

[JKKS085]

Leto was more physical but also way too much on the nose which is one of the reasons it didn't work. I feel like he needed direction instead of just letting lose. It's OK to let actors experiment with their characters but in this instance it clearly got in the way of a more cohesive portrayal.

 

[hellblazer103]

I'll give em one thing... I did like how all of his goons would be dressed in all these outlandish costumes. That was kinda neat.

I always said ( and I know i'm not the only one , lol ) that Penguin's goons in Batman Returns would make much more sense as Joker goons.

 

[ThePhantasm]

I didn't like Leto's take, but I'm trying not to be too judgmental given that half his scenes were cut from the film. Its possible his take on the character was more well-rounded than what I saw.

As far as what you see in the film, the one thing this Joker lacks is a sense of humor. He seemed depressed the whole time. Joker has to enjoy being Joker. The idea that he mopes about losing Harley is incredibly stupid.

Harley clearly enjoyed having fun in the film. Her characterization wasn't perfect either, but it was more true to the character.

 

[brandeezy89]

I hope they keep everything because DC/WB have been reactive to everything so far. It's apart of the story now so there's really no need to get rid of it. I can see the headlines now

"DC caves in again to pressure and gets rid of Joker's tattoos and jewelry because of backlash"

If that happens then i'm pretty sure they'll shoe horn in Lex Luthor Sr. and kill off Jesse's Lex because of audience opinion smh

I'd rather have changes to characterization than everything else

 

[Boom]

Doubt we would see a headline like that at all.

Besides, changing something as superficial as his physical appearance is far less "reactionary" than changing the characterization. Removing some tattoos and grillz isn't really that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but it may result in a more visually pleasing and uniform aesthetic.

 

[MasterChief2829]

I didn't like Leto's take, but I'm trying not to be too judgmental given that half his scenes were cut from the film. Its possible his take on the character was more well-rounded than what I saw.

As far as what you see in the film, the one thing this Joker lacks is a sense of humor. He seemed depressed the whole time. Joker has to enjoy being Joker. The idea that he mopes about losing Harley is incredibly stupid.

Harley clearly enjoyed having fun in the film. Her characterization wasn't perfect either, but it was more true to the character.

Whaaaa??? Depressed? HOW? lol I thought the complete opposite. He's smiling and laughing in Arkham, getting chased by batman, the helicopter scene, with Harley just shooting the **** talking about grape soda, screwing around with Monster T and smiling before killing him, his evil smile when placing the tablet up to the window, meeting Briggs, etc. The only scenes where he was mopey was the brief scenes when he didn't know where Harley was and I don't see the big deal they are going for a different take on the relationship. Most of the movie he seemed to really be enjoying himself.

 

[The Joker]

Doubt we would see a headline like that at all.

Besides, changing something as superficial as his physical appearance is far less "reactionary" than changing the characterization. Removing some tattoos and grillz isn't really that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things, but it may result in a more visually pleasing and uniform aesthetic.

Exactly.

 

[Wildcard]

I didn't like Leto's take, but I'm trying not to be too judgmental given that half his scenes were cut from the film. Its possible his take on the character was more well-rounded than what I saw.

As far as what you see in the film, the one thing this Joker lacks is a sense of humor. He seemed depressed the whole time. Joker has to enjoy being Joker. The idea that he mopes about losing Harley is incredibly stupid.

Harley clearly enjoyed having fun in the film. Her characterization wasn't perfect either, but it was more true to the character.

We had to have watched two totally different films. The Joker's sense of humor was on full display from the get-go. The mocking of Monster T, getting excited & laughing hysterically at the presence of Batman, making Griggs uncomfortable, giving a gift basket that's a bomb and opening fire on the entire Squad with a maniacal cackle.

Where and when was he depressed and mopey?

 

[Kane52630]

 

[harlequinade]

Kinda mean, but that's in line with her not siding with him after his scenes were cut and 'understanding the decision' or some other c--p like that

 

[I Am The Knight]

Yikes.

 

[Angel0fDeath]

Of course it was uncomfortable. I'm sure it wasn't meant to be romantic. She's just joking.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Lol. It was a burn but at the same time it's not meant to be taken so literally cause it was a joke...hence it's SNL...lols. I love how they poke fun at certain people irl...it's funny to watch but yes...the ppl who make jabs at those ppl do have a point...especially when it comes to the presidential election coming up. Not to bring it up but Alec Baldwin killed it as Trump. Lols