Apocalypse Jennifer Lawrence Could Be... Anybody? - The Mystique Thread - Part 1

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[x-er]

There's no Lawrence thread yet, which is mean considering she's the only X-Lady whom we know will be back for sure...

Anyway, I was hoping that, in Apocalypse, she'd be cold and creepy like Romijn's version, with a few key lines, and that monstrous echo in her voice. If Lawrence could pull off that transition without too much dialogue and impressing the audience, she'd be that much better of an actress, don't you think?

 

[GuestStar2004]

The whole mutants accepted because of the events of 1973 thing was probably an idea Singer wanted to explore from the start so i can imagine that would have automatically got lawrence out of make up anyway a fair bit anyway

The mutants accepted angle is probably gonna play a big part in the story, to see a different side to it all

 

[Avalanche]

Jennifer Lawrence Could Be... Anybody?

But predominately she'll just be Jennifer Lawrence.

 

[BeholdMe]

But predominately she'll just be Jennifer Lawrence.

Exactly lmao

The whole mutants accepted because of the events of 1973 thing was probably an idea Singer wanted to explore from the start so i can imagine that would have automatically got lawrence out of make up anyway a fair bit anyway

The mutants accepted angle is probably gonna play a big part in the story, to see a different side to it all

If it's mutants accepted then I would think she would be in her true blue form not as JLaw. I can understand why they did it for the poster though that would be blue overload.

 

[GuestStar2004]

If it's mutants accepted then I would think she would be in her true blue form not as JLaw.

From what has been said she was seen on TV by millions and what happened on that day has gone down as a big part of history and has changed the world and she doesn't wanna be recognised for it.

she also knows the under belly of this new world of accepted mutants so the idea that she would walk around openly and sign autographs is probably unlikely, even from the concept alone it seems unlikely she would walk around openly after that

The world will probably be changed again by the end of this movie by what happens

 

[The Guard]

In other words she's in hiding. Which is what Mystique does.

 

[psylockolussus]

But predominately she'll just be Jennifer Lawrence.

Yes but they'll be calling her Raven.

 

[X-Maniac]

I really hope this is the end of the J-Law-Raven-Mystique to be honest. I'm seeing the actress more than the character and it bugs me to hell and back.

Give the character a rest, and if we see her again, let's have a Freedom Force led by a comic-accurate Mystique... played by another actress with a bit more venom and menace... and better acting skills.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The mystique we are getting here is likely the version we are keepin, different actress or not, they didn't evolve her just because of Lawrence this is pretty much what grew out of the seed they planted In FC with her growing up Charles, she isn't cold and dark because there is more substance to who she is that you can't really ignore

 

[magneto23]

I really hope this is the end of the J-Law-Raven-Mystique to be honest. I'm seeing the actress more than the character and it bugs me to hell and back.

Give the character a rest, and if we see her again, let's have a Freedom Force led by a comic-accurate Mystique... played by another actress with a bit more venom and menace... and better acting skills.

Has nothing to do with acting and everything to do with writing.

 

[X-Maniac]

The mystique we are getting here is likely the mystique we are keepin, different actress or not, they didn't change her just because of Lawrence this is pretty much what grew out of the seed they planted In FC with her growing up Charles who took care of her, she isn't cold and dark because there is more substance to her now

Well, if we know her past, she isn't befitting of the name Mystique.

If she doesn't disguise herself as various people through shapeshifting, she isn't befiitting of the name Mystique either.

And if she's blonde, she's not worthy of the name Raven.

Who is this woman, lol? She ain't 'Raven' and she ain't 'Mystique'. At least X3 got the Raven bit right when she was forcibly made human...

 

[BeholdMe]

The mystique we are getting here is likely the version we are keepin, different actress or not, they didn't evolve her just because of Lawrence this is pretty much what grew out of the seed they planted In FC with her growing up Charles, she isn't cold and dark because there is more substance to who she is that you can't really ignore

We know your her biggest fan but it's apparent they changed some things because they had Lawremce they want as much face time as they can get and frankly the character Mystique is suffering.

 

[GuestStar2004]

We know your her biggest fan but it's apparent they changed some things because they had Lawremce they want as much face time as they can get and frankly the character Mystique is suffering.

You can think I am Her biggest fan all you want just because i ain't taking shots at the actress but I haven't seen any of the hunger games movies or really anything else she been in apart from X-men so I ain't speaking as Her biggest fan I am talking as someone who doesn't have their head clouded by her being Jennifer Lawrence.

It certainly could be just for face time so they can say hey look we have Jennifer Lawrence but in the end showing her out of make up does 2 other things

1. Keeps things fluent with X-men first Class where they had her looking like that form for a lot of the movie, same with Hank since to requote singer "they can't grow up to quick".

2. Since she is an actual character with emotions its better to give her a face that the audience knows is her own identity so they can relate to her, like for example she could have been anyone in that hospital scene in DOFP when she was having her leg stitched up but then the scene wouldn't have worked same way emotionally.

Now obviously it makes sense in public because she ain't gonna walk around blue and just being different people all the time won't help the audience relate to this character and remember it's not just for the comic nerds either, its a reason some studios ain't fond of masking characters on screen as it is harder for the audience to relate too

As I said before since it's very likely the mutant accepted thing wasn't done just for Lawrence since I imagine it's a pretty big plot point That they probably wouldn't have had her in make up much for anyway so honestly while it's easy to take shots at Lawrence for hating the make up I don't see any reason singer couldnt have been fully onboard with human raven for all the reason so said above

 

[BeholdMe]

You can think I am Her biggest fan all you want just because i ain't taking shots at the actress but I haven't seen any of the hunger games movies or really anything else she been in apart from X-men so I ain't speaking as Her biggest fan I am talking as someone who doesn't have their head clouded by her being Jennifer Lawrence.

It certainly could be just for face time so they can say hey look we have Jennifer Lawrence but in the end showing her out of make up does 2 other things

1. Keeps things fluent with X-men first Class where they had her looking like that form for a lot of the movie, same with Hank since to requote singer "they can't grow up to quick".

2. Since she is an actual character with emotions its better to give her a face that the audience knows is her own identity so they can relate to her, like for example she could have been anyone in that hospital scene in DOFP when she was having her leg stitched up but then the scene wouldn't have worked same way emotionally.

Now obviously it makes sense in public because she ain't gonna walk around blue and just being different people all the time won't help the audience relate to this character and remember it's not just for the comic nerds either, its a reason some studios ain't fond of masking characters on screen as it is harder for the audience to relate too

As I said before since it's very likely the mutant accepted thing wasn't done just for Lawrence since I imagine it's a pretty big plot point That they probably wouldn't have had her in make up much for anyway so honestly while it's easy to take shots at Lawrence for hating the make up I don't see any reason singer couldnt have been fully onboard with human raven for all the reason so said above

I'm not thinking anything you show it in your actions how you think every critique about JLaw is a hit on her, she isn't a perfect actress but you seem to think she has no flaws. The world is just against poor JLaw her being a poor Mystique dosent mean I hate her by any means. Every actress's just isn't good in every role simply. Every time someone throws a critique out there you just shut it down when there's a high chance JLaw knows nothing about you to defend her so adamantly. I can see if people call her names well really bad names. Mutant accepted thing? She dosent show her true form she hides in the JLaw guise so that's not mutant accepted. Obviously you don't read my posts and I said the blame isn't just JLaws only I'm sure a lot of people have a hand in the pot so there you go thinking someone is bashing her. Of course there onboard with Raven because they have JLaw as Raven, though she's a big name I do feel the writers/director/manager/JLAw image they have is making the character suffer it's seems so left field then who Mystique is supposed to be. Not a bash on your fav just the truth that's why I said I hope they take a break from Raven after this movie unless it's a solo movie which I'm fine with. I can see why she has gotten so much development whether it's good or bad they have a big name actress playing her and she was part of the FC trilogy so of course it makes sense. That's why I'm happy with the direction we're headed in now with the franchise and I look forward to seeing Ororo,Scott and Jean carry the new coming franchise.

 

[psylockolussus]

I really hope this is the end of the J-Law-Raven-Mystique to be honest. I'm seeing the actress more than the character and it bugs me to hell and back.

Give the character a rest, and if we see her again, let's have a Freedom Force led by a comic-accurate Mystique... played by another actress with a bit more venom and menace... and better acting skills.

1st. Mystique is freaking overused.

2nd. Mystique is most likely in "human" form for the majority of this movie so ugh. Plus just the fact that the actress doesn't "enjoy" the blue paint and openly complaining about it made me believe its the "reason" why we aren't getting "Blue" Mystique for the entire film. They probably just came up a reason why Mystique isn't blue for the majority of the film but of course its mostly to compensate Jennifer Lawrence and you know Jennifer Lawrence is currently Hollywood's IT girl, and Fox wants to use her popularity to attract more viewers but if she was a no-name actress, this wouldn't happen.

 

[Knight_SV]

I like JLaw but the character she's playing isn't mystique the ruthless mutant x-fans wanted. She's just katniss everdeen with shapeshifting ability. Fox even changed mystique character so much just because JLaw playing her to attract viewers(her fanboys, and hunger games fans). Even made her the main character here, she'll probably get the most screen tme.

 

[GuestStar2004]

They changed her way before Jlaw was famous, aka x-Men: first class, what we got now is pretty much a mix of FC and OT

 

[psylockolussus]

I like JLaw but the character she's playing isn't mystique the ruthless mutant x-fans wanted. She's just katniss everdeen with shapeshifting ability. Fox even changed mystique character so much just because JLaw playing her to attract viewers(her fanboys, and hunger games fans). Even made her the main character here, she'll probably get the most screen tme.

I think out of the three X-Men films that she has an appearance, X-Men: Apocalypse will be her least-Mystique role. It also makes me cringe that she's "leading" the team (as if the synopsis is lying about that) then they didn't even let her wear the bluepaint/body suit for promotional pictures. Ugh. Terrible.

I really hope she's done after this one. Jennifer Lawrence isn't ideal for Mystique, even if they write her as a ruthless and mysterious Mystique similar to Rebecca Romijin, she still lacks conviction. And like I said before, 6 films for Mystique is already a LOT. If she was playing Rogue, I won't be complaining. But Mystique? who started as a villain in the films and STILL mostly seen as a X-Men villain (in general)... err no.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I'm not thinking anything you show it in your actions how you think every critique about JLaw is a hit on her She isn't a perfect actress but you seem to think she has no flaws. The world is just against poor JLaw her being a poor Mystique dosent mean I hate her by any means. Every actress's just isn't good in every role simply. Every time someone throws a critique out there you just shut it down when there's a high chance JLaw knows nothing about you to defend her so adamantly. I can see if people call her names well really bad names.

oh she ain't reading my comments? Darn!, nah I just take into consideration other things rather then just the actor or actress which often seem very obvious to me but get ignored by most people

Mutant accepted thing? She dosent show her true form she hides in the JLaw guise so that's not mutant accepted.

You are missing the point of it, she ain't gonna walk around being blue when she is recognised that way by millions who see her on TV in 1973

 

[psylockolussus]

In other words she's in hiding. Which is what Mystique does.

She even hides when she's at X-Mansion because thats what Mystique does.

So much for mutant and proud.

 

[Knight_SV]

I think out of the three X-Men films that she has an appearance, X-Men: Apocalypse will be her least-Mystique role. It also makes me cringe that she's "leading" the team (as if the synopsis is lying about that) then they didn't even let her wear the bluepaint/body suit for promotional pictures. Ugh. Terrible.

I really hope she's done after this one. Jennifer Lawrence isn't ideal for Mystique, even if they write her as a ruthless and mysterious Mystique similar to Rebecca Romijin, she still lacks conviction. And like I said before, 6 films for Mystique is already a LOT. If she was playing Rogue, I won't be complaining. But Mystique? who started as a villain in the films and STILL mostly seen as a X-Men villain (in general)... err no.

I agree. Fox casted JLaw in a wrong role. Yeah i'm glad too she will done with after this. Mystique just not deserve the spot as the center of the franchise. If she was casted as Rogue or Jean and given the center spot, i won't be complaining either.

 

[psylockolussus]

"You're not students anymore, You're X-Men"

I cringed!

 

[Joaqenix]

Sooo, unless the black suits battle is in the middle of the movie aka they've managed to keep an entire Act 3 battle under wraps (which I doubt), looks like the Mystique haters are going to be disappointed? That shot of her in a new uniform has to either be before a mysterious final battle, or just debuting the new X-Men at the end of the movie. Its the latter, looks like she survives (shocker! </sarcasm>).

 

[marvelrobbins]

"You're not students anymore, You're X-Men"

I cringed!

she is basicly play Katness In Apocalypse.they defently let Lawrence dictate
role.i bet she is only in blue form when mystique is needed for fight scenes
or loses conceration.

Having "raven" be leader with Xavier being taken prisoner is such a joke.